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Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 13:09
by Counter-puncher
On forums, we sow what we reap

Kalan is routinely arrogant and dismissive about the opinions of others

unfortunately for him he comes out with bilge like the two posts I quoted

a self-style boxing expert, who thinks Chris Eubank jr is a 'clever' and 'skillful' boxer

its a strange type of boxing skill, that gets itself punched repeatedly in the face, has never learned to jab, has footwork that would disgrace a cartoon Frankenstein, that fights with chin high in the air, throws multiple-hook combinations with his arms flailing away all wide and sloppy... yes, a strange kind of skill

I'm being facetious. Eubanks isn't skilled, Kalan just talks nonsense. its putrid that he has the nerve to claim any kind of expertise, when he emits opinions so clearly flawed.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 13:12
by oogiebe
Counter-puncher wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 13:09 On forums, we sow what we reap

Kalan is routinely arrogant and dismissive about the opinions of others

unfortunately for him he comes out with bilge like the two posts I quoted

aa self-style boxing expert, who thinks Chris Eubank jr is a 'clever' and 'skillful' boxer

its a strange type of boxing skill, that gets itself punched repeatedly in the face, has never learned to jab, has footwork that would disgrace a cartoon Frankenstein, that fights with chin high in the air, throws multiple-hook combinations with his arms flailing away all wide and sloppy... yes, a strange kind of skill

I'm being facetious. Eubanks isn't skilled, Kalan just talks nonsense. its putrid that he has the nerve to claim any kind of expertise, when he emits opinions fo clearly flawed.
:clap: :TU: :yay: :bag: :box:

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 13:16
by Counter-puncher
i could randomly pick a Chris Eubank training video off the internet right now

i guarantee you it would take less than 15 seconds before it showed one of the following:

Eubank throwing a jab on the pads, failing to extend his arm more than 75%, leaving a bent-arm angle in the middle

Eubank throwing a 'combination' on the heavy bag, (1) chin in air, (2) hands NEVER returning to guard his chin, EVER.

i could take just 30 seconds of Eubank training and pick so many fundamental flaws that his lack of skill is clear- AND THAT IS AGAINST A HEAVY BAG!!! BAGS DON'T HIT BACK, FORTUNATE FOR EUBANK, HE WOULD GET KO'D 60 TIMES PER TRAINING SESSION.

thats all it*should* take for anyone with an eye to see the hugely-flawed 'technique' of Eubank. 30 seconds.

and this is the fighter kalan says is 'clever' and 'skillful'.

its pitiful.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 13:20
by oogiebe
Counter-puncher wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 13:16 i could randomly pick a Chris Eubank training video off the internet right now

i guarantee you it would take less than 15 seconds before it showed one of the following:

Eubank throwing a jab on the pads, failing to extend his arm more than 75%, leaving a bent-arm angle in the middle

Eubank throwing a 'combination' on the heavy bag, (1) chin in air, (2) hands NEVER returning to guard his chin, EVER.

i could take just 30 seconds of Eubank training and pick so many fundamental flaws that his lack of skill is clear- AND THAT IS AGAINST A HEAVY BAG!!! BAGS DON'T HIT BACK, FORTUNATE FOR EUBANK, HE WOULD GET KO'D 60 TIMES PER TRAINING SESSION.

thats all it*should* take for anyone with an eye to see the hugely-flawed 'technique' of Eubank. 30 seconds.

and this is the fighter kalan says is 'clever' and 'skillful'.

its pitiful.
My first question is...why are we talking about "hit me in the chin" Eubanks on a Mercer v. Tyson thread! lol...COUNTER PUNCHER...DON'T GET SUCKED INTO kalan's BLACK HOLE. He pontificates on the absurd in order to make himself feel superior by insulting everyone else.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 13:25
by Counter-puncher
apologies

but every now and then when he is holding forth, I will make a reminder to everyone on the thread, remember, don';t listen to this guy, he's the guy who said Chris Eubank junior was clever and skillful

the young and easily-led may otherwise be lead down the wrong path....

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 18:54
by Flump
Kalan wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 15:20
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 03:40 - As previously noted, the ? is nonsensical, but like a fisherman throwing out a trot line, now he's got the usual experts dangling.

Kalan, look into surgery to connect your right and left frontal lobes and an editor to correct your copious mistakes. Mike was a 21 yr old kid when he made Tucker flee for his life and Smith hold on for dear life an 20 when he knocked down a crafty contender, Tilllis and KOed Ribalta.

Mike must've walked into thousands of night spots and out again, bar hopping, ever heard of it?

Mercer never reached his physical potential because mental limitations, but Mike had signed to fight him before he fought Lewis as a tune up to get some quality rds. Lewis sued to prevent his paycheck bonanza from getting exposed to sweeten Mikes part of the deal.

Lessee, 1995 fresh out of prison Tyson on deadly experimental sedatives against the 1980 -81 Parkinson's Ali, errrr, Mercer is it?

Is mercer gonna be drunk or throw the fight? How about my 80 yr old gran against the 2yr old boxing expert you or Daffy Duck vs Snow White.
Calm down Stupid.... Put on your thinking cap for a second because your biased thinking is leading you to stray strawberry fields with Moonbeam Dancer and Clarabell.. We're talking 94-96 Tyson - get with the program.

Tony Tucker was knocked out in 2 rounds by chinless Herbie Hide -- but he rocked Tyson down to his booties and Mikey couldn't hurt him with his best shots... So forget Tucker and the super hittable Smith who Mikey also failed to floor.

Mercer arguably beat Lewis and gave Holyfield Hell... Mercer was one tough thug who didn't shrink from ANY opponent in those mid-90's days. Mikey Tyson did. Mikey was scared as Hell -- as most bullies are when they meet their match.

Compared to Ray Mercer, Mikey was a squeaky voiced little tot on roller skates who tried to puff up his chest and look intimidating when he got in there with the fearsome and no-nonsense Holyfield and Lewis... The 2 older gents sneered at the little punk.. Then they and beat the holy Hell out of him... Mikey was too old??? .... Take in the Buster Douglas fight sometime you ignorant, potty mouthed buffoon.... Big Bad Buster lined Little Shorty up for a clouting.
This is like the boxrec equivalent of two weeds with learning difficulties having a fight in the school playground.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 18:59
by oogiebe
Counter-puncher wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 13:25 apologies

but every now and then when he is holding forth, I will make a reminder to everyone on the thread, remember, don';t listen to this guy, he's the guy who said Chris Eubank junior was clever and skillful

the young and easily-led may otherwise be lead down the wrong path....
I know it's frustrating. Really not worth it. You're too good.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 19:51
by Kalan
Flump wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 18:54
two weeds with learning difficulties having a fight in the school playground.
Weeds? Stop faggin' hallucinogens during recess Donald Flump.... You're stoned to the quasars already.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 20:10
by Flump
Kalan wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 19:51
Flump wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 18:54
two weeds with learning difficulties having a fight in the school playground.
Weeds? Stop faggin' hallucinogens during recess Donald Flump.... You're stoned to the quasars already.
Let's hope the effects aren't so bad that I create an online alter ego for myself. An alter ego where I am a renowned man of peace, 'Nam vet, impossible to hurt mysterious heavyweight from the 60's and 70s who's so good that as a novice I can be pulled out of the crowd to flatten the world's 9th ranked heavyweight during a sparring session. Also a rich good looking playboy, who instead of getting out to enjoy my wealth by travelling the world, spend every waking hour spouting unconvincing statistical based theories on boxing, whilst confessing to have know the result in advance of virtually every major fight of the last 50 years.

That would mean I'm taking, as you Gold's Gym on Venice Beach boys might have said in the 70's, some bad sh1t...

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 06:29
by Counter-puncher
Flump wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 20:10
Kalan wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 19:51
Flump wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 18:54
two weeds with learning difficulties having a fight in the school playground.
Weeds? Stop faggin' hallucinogens during recess Donald Flump.... You're stoned to the quasars already.
Let's hope the effects aren't so bad that I create an online alter ego for myself. An alter ego where I am a renowned man of peace, 'Nam vet, impossible to hurt mysterious heavyweight from the 60's and 70s who's so good that as a novice I can be pulled out of the crowd to flatten the world's 9th ranked heavyweight during a sparring session. Also a rich good looking playboy, who instead of getting out to enjoy my wealth by travelling the world, spend every waking hour spouting unconvincing statistical based theories on boxing, whilst confessing to have know the result in advance of virtually every major fight of the last 50 years.

That would mean I'm taking, as you Gold's Gym on Venice Beach boys might have said in the 70's, some bad sh1t...
:yay:

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 10:40
by oogiebe
:clap: :TU:
Flump wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 20:10
Kalan wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 19:51
Flump wrote: 13 Mar 2018, 18:54
two weeds with learning difficulties having a fight in the school playground.
Weeds? Stop faggin' hallucinogens during recess Donald Flump.... You're stoned to the quasars already.
Let's hope the effects aren't so bad that I create an online alter ego for myself. An alter ego where I am a renowned man of peace, 'Nam vet, impossible to hurt mysterious heavyweight from the 60's and 70s who's so good that as a novice I can be pulled out of the crowd to flatten the world's 9th ranked heavyweight during a sparring session. Also a rich good looking playboy, who instead of getting out to enjoy my wealth by travelling the world, spend every waking hour spouting unconvincing statistical based theories on boxing, whilst confessing to have know the result in advance of virtually every major fight of the last 50 years.

That would mean I'm taking, as you Gold's Gym on Venice Beach boys might have said in the 70's, some bad sh1t...
:clap: :TU:

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 16:07
by Kalan
more schoolboys suckin hallucinogens during recess :stop: before you're traipsing through moonbeams with BuzzBox

I got the better of an over ranked fat boy in an exhibition match... That's not a big deal is it???? .... I didn't know the result of every major fight in the last 50 years before hand or I'd be a Billionaire by now...

And I've been to Europe this year and last year... But I'm not a jet setter and I'm no Richard Branson.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 16:36
by oogiebe
Kalan wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 16:07 more schoolboys suckin hallucinogens during recess :stop: before you're traipsing through moonbeams with BuzzBox

I got the better of an over ranked fat boy in an exhibition match... That's not a big deal is it???? .... I didn't know the result of every major fight in the last 50 years before hand or I'd be a Billionaire by now...

And I've been to Europe this year and last year... But I'm not a jet setter and I'm no Richard Branson.
You, my friend, have issues...

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 03:47
by Kalan
I have wishes not issues... There aren't enough hours in a day - and I'd love to be a lot younger... I'd like a day to be 35 hours... I waste too much time reading books, newspapers, and magazines... I waste too much time on political websites, boxing websites, email and the Internet in general... I scramble to finish my schedule... I'd like a more comfortable pace.

If I had an alter ego I'd be Superman or an Archangel... They get stuff done with super speed... Read a book in 3 seconds with 100% retention... I wouldn't be a late-to-the-party Heavyweight from many decades ago.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 09:55
by oogiebe
Kalan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 03:47 I have wishes not issues... There aren't enough hours in a day - and I'd love to be a lot younger... I'd like a day to be 35 hours... I waste too much time reading books, newspapers, and magazines... I waste too much time on political websites, boxing websites, email and the Internet in general... I scramble to finish my schedule... I'd like a more comfortable pace.

If I had an alter ego I'd be Superman or an Archangel... They get stuff done with super speed... Read a book in 3 seconds with 100% retention... I wouldn't be a late-to-the-party Heavyweight from many decades ago.
So when I say issues, I'll say issues of magazines and books. I too wish to be younger and 35 hour days sound real good!

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 15:03
by Kalan
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 08:14 Well if you come to Europe again next year, be sure to come to Spain ( Valencia Communitat ) and I will introduce you to ex U.S.Marine sergeant Al Mathews, turned Hollywood actor, who reliably informs me your so called honourable discharge from that corp of soldiers is horse sh,it, and who would relish the opportunity to tell you face to face
Like I'm really going to find you and Al Mathews you ignorant hater... Is he going to be wearing his dress blues??? Mathews rightfully thinks you're a piece of crap and won't associate with you... Anybody who thinks America's performance in the Viet Nam War was honorable can shove a telephone pole up his ass... 58,000 US service men dead so the US Defense Industry can profiteer.... Then we high tail it out of Nam leaving the South Vietnamese Army to get crushed... FO!!!

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 15:08
by oogiebe
Kalan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 15:03
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 08:14 Well if you come to Europe again next year, be sure to come to Spain ( Valencia Communitat ) and I will introduce you to ex U.S.Marine sergeant Al Mathews, turned Hollywood actor, who reliably informs me your so called honourable discharge from that corp of soldiers is horse sh,it, and who would relish the opportunity to tell you face to face
Like I'm really going to find you and Al Mathews you ignorant hater... Is he going to be wearing his dress blues??? Mathews rightfully thinks you're a piece of crap and won't associate with you... Anybody who thinks America's performance in the Viet Nam War was honorable can shove a telephone pole up his ass... 58,000 US service men dead so the US Defense Industry can profiteer.... Then we high tail it out of Nam leaving the South Vietnamese Army to get crushed... FO!!!
Are you two serious?! WTF!!!!???? :brick:

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 19:43
by oogiebe
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 19:23
oogiebe wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 15:08
Kalan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 15:03

Like I'm really going to find you and Al Mathews you ignorant hater... Is he going to be wearing his dress blues??? Mathews rightfully thinks you're a piece of crap and won't associate with you... Anybody who thinks America's performance in the Viet Nam War was honorable can shove a telephone pole up his ass... 58,000 US service men dead so the US Defense Industry can profiteer.... Then we high tail it out of Nam leaving the South Vietnamese Army to get crushed... FO!!!
Are you two serious?! WTF!!!!???? :brick:
Who flushed you're fukking chain? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
You did. This is a boxing forum, not a jerkoff forum. Leave the guy alone and get back to boxing.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 19:46
by oogiebe
Kalan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 15:03
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 08:14 Well if you come to Europe again next year, be sure to come to Spain ( Valencia Communitat ) and I will introduce you to ex U.S.Marine sergeant Al Mathews, turned Hollywood actor, who reliably informs me your so called honourable discharge from that corp of soldiers is horse sh,it, and who would relish the opportunity to tell you face to face
Like I'm really going to find you and Al Mathews you ignorant hater... Is he going to be wearing his dress blues??? Mathews rightfully thinks you're a piece of crap and won't associate with you... Anybody who thinks America's performance in the Viet Nam War was honorable can shove a telephone pole up his ass... 58,000 US service men dead so the US Defense Industry can profiteer.... Then we high tail it out of Nam leaving the South Vietnamese Army to get crushed... FO!!!
Kalan - is there no one you can get along with?

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 19:51
by oogiebe
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 19:48
Kalan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 15:03

Like I'm really going to find you and Al Mathews you ignorant hater... Is he going to be wearing his dress blues??? Mathews rightfully thinks you're a piece of crap and won't associate with you...
Wrong AGAIN you cancerous scum. Al is treated with the highest respect by us Brit expats, and the feeling is mutual. We actually refer to him lovingly as " Sarge " because unlike YOU, he can PROVE his Marine Corp record, you cretinous filth.
Kalan, you better think of something fast, I think he's out "adjectiving" you, and some seriously good insults!

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 10:29
by Kalan
oogiebe wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 19:51
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 19:48
Kalan wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 15:03

Like I'm really going to find you and Al Mathews you ignorant hater... Is he going to be wearing his dress blues??? Mathews rightfully thinks you're a piece of crap and won't associate with you...
Wrong AGAIN you cancerous scum. Al is treated with the highest respect by us Brit expats, and the feeling is mutual. We actually refer to him lovingly as " Sarge " because unlike YOU, he can PROVE his Marine Corp record, you cretinous filth.
Kalan, you better think of something fast, I think he's out "adjectiving" you, and some seriously good insults!
BS story.... Old-n-Moldie is a piece of crap who hates Americans.... No US Marine would associate with manure like him

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 11:45
by oogiebe
BoxBuzz wrote: 18 Feb 2017, 12:00
Kalan wrote:Mercer wanted the fight and Tyson didn't... Mercer was big. He was strong. He was very tough.. He wasn't a real good boxer but he fought Lennox Lewis to a standstill.. For some reason Lewis engaged in a slugfest with a man who can't be outslugged.. Mercer was never stopped until he was 41 and Wladimir Klitschko beat the living fk out of him.. He wasn't a good style for Mike to fight.. I think Mercer would have won that one ... He would have absorbed everything Mike threw and beat him down.

I knew Mercer was going to expose Tommy Morrison.. He easily absorbed everything Morrison threw at him -- and then he bipped the exhausted swinger out - as easy as you please.. Mercer's next fight was Larry Holmes - an extremely disciplined boxer who didn't throw if he didn't have a target.. Holmes made Mercer do all the leading and punched the crap out of him.. Mercer swung away uselessly.. It's a study in styles.. As he made Mercer miss and countered the crap out of him, Holmes kept telling ringside reporters - "I ain't no Tommy Morrison."

Couldn't have said it better.

Not quite as sure as you that Tyson couldn't have inadvertently sparked him. But there's no real evidence of what it would take to spark Mercer.
Mercer was, perhaps, the toughest HW to KO I saw in my lifetime. Iron jawed hulk of a human being.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 11:46
by oogiebe
Kalan wrote: 16 Mar 2018, 10:29
oogiebe wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 19:51
golden oldie wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 19:48

Wrong AGAIN you cancerous scum. Al is treated with the highest respect by us Brit expats, and the feeling is mutual. We actually refer to him lovingly as " Sarge " because unlike YOU, he can PROVE his Marine Corp record, you cretinous filth.
Kalan, you better think of something fast, I think he's out "adjectiving" you, and some seriously good insults!
BS story.... Old-n-Moldie is a piece of crap who hates Americans.... No US Marine would associate with manure like him
I can now identify Kalan by his posts...I saw "BS Story" and lo and behold...Kalan...

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 12:51
by Kalan
Right.... I call out BS stories by whoever puts them up... Moldie, Homicide, Buzz, Alp ... or even you.

Re: Ray Mercer vs Mike Tyson 94-96

Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 16:26
by elmersalsa
Ray Mercer vs the great Iron Mike Tyson would have been a great fight, especially in the mid 90s decade.

Like everyone here in this forum, I ask myself if Mercer had the punch to hurt Mike. It would have been a slugfest, that's for sure. Probably, the best fight of the 90s decade. The big puncher Tyson vs the rock chinned Mercer. Probably Tyson might get frustrated by not knocking him out after dishing tons of blows to Mercer's chin and seeing that Mercer would still be standing. But, as long as Tyson is finding the target, and winning most of the rounds of the fight, I don't think he would get that frustrated and discouraged like he was in the ring with the great Evander Holyfield.

See, Buster Douglas and Holyfield were tagging him without getting tagged back. That was frustrating for Iron Mike. But, Mike was much faster and hit harder. Mercer didn't have the punch to stop him. To stop Tyson, you gotta hit him constantly. Can Mercer hit him constantly like Evander and Buster did? I don't think so. Tyson is the winner by split decision. The judges ain't giving Mercer nothing. He got to stop the MONEY MAN.