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Enlightened-One wrote:Is it feasible for Bermane Stiverne to actually be in possession of a better, more lucrative and prestigious, opportunity than the one he might receive from the WBC than facing Luis Ortiz?

Shouldn't we at least withhold judgment until we ascertain Stiverne's next opponent?

King and Stiverne are just butthurt, because WBC didn't give them a direct shot at Wilder.

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:AH, I know those initials from some loser from WW2.
Anyway, Stiverne is just another North American pussy, like most boxers above Mexico.
If he doesn't fight Povetkin or Ortiz I can't take it seriously.

pussy? why, who you thought?

??

Bermane Stiverne is abbreviated as BS, and it describes him well.

asdfjkl wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:AH, I know those initials from some loser from WW2.
Anyway, Stiverne is just another North American pussy, like most boxers above Mexico.
If he doesn't fight Povetkin or Ortiz I can't take it seriously.

pussy? why, who you thought?

??

I mean, unless you've stepped in a ring with Wilder, don't go calling people pussies

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:
pussy? why, who you thought?

??

I mean, unless you've stepped in a ring with Wilder, don't go calling people pussies

In that case barely anyone can?

gilgamesh wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Translation: I will lose to Ortiz by KO and AH has bigger plans in the works so I gotta duck Ortiz -

I don't know what bigger plans there could be out there for him when he's been so inactive.

Frying fish, twitter, his headphones, talking....

gilgamesh wrote:no fish to fry.

exactly. he accidentally held the title
for a few minutes, that's about it.

Stiverne is a chickenshit. He knows his time is limited, and probably has only a few fights left. Ortiz might derail all of that. Sad. He actually has a better chance against Ortiz than he does Wilder. Ortiz looks like he is about 45 years old, and is much slower than Wilder.

asdfjkl wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: ??

I mean, unless you've stepped in a ring with Wilder, don't go calling people pussies

In that case barely anyone can?

yep, barely anyone can call someone who steps in the ring with a 200lb+ KO artist a pussy

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:
I mean, unless you've stepped in a ring with Wilder, don't go calling people pussies

In that case barely anyone can?

yep, barely anyone can call someone who steps in the ring with a 200lb+ KO artist a pussy

Then he needs to retire or fight a competitive fight, otherwise he's just an assclown. If you prefer assclown to pussy, we can go with that.

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:
I mean, unless you've stepped in a ring with Wilder, don't go calling people pussies

In that case barely anyone can?

yep, barely anyone can call someone who steps in the ring with a 200lb+ KO artist a pussy

If I offer my neighbour a 1000 dollars he'll step into the ring with me as well, despite he's over 200 pounds and despite he knows I'll very most likely KO him. Doesn't mean someone isn't allowed to call me a pussy because everybody knows I can easely KO him since he's 75 years old. This is pretty much exactly what Wilder does, he's selecting guys he thinks he can easely beat and if he challenges a top contender it's either because he can get a massive pile of money (AJ), or if he knows the fight wont happen any time soon (Klitschko, either Fury, Povetkin, Briggs, and so on and on and on). Duhaupas wasn't even a real pro, he had a fulltime job in the metal industry at the time he fought Wilder, but admitted, became a pro ever since. Arreola was way beyond his prime, a user of illegal substances, was challenged on short notice and even gave up the fight as soon as Wilder requested him to. Szpilka spend quite some time in prison, was challenged on short notice as well, and nevertheless turned out to be quite a challenge anyway even though he lost against Jennings as well. Molina, who used to be a teacher at the time couldn't even be seen as a real challenge could it?