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mickey1975 wrote:You still claim anyone on here could have beaten Wlad that night

nope, never did

and the hiding Ward was going to get...

not a hiding, but most had kov winning. and if you could read you'll see I gave Ward credit afterwards.

There's loads more

ok

Seriously, it's like I DON'T EVEN GO TO FIGHTS

There is never going to be a perfect condition Fury again and I am not into fantasy match ups. So I say this, if they ever fight Joshua will beat Fury.

mickey1975 wrote:Blowe is probably the crappest tipster on here. I don't mind people getting stuff wrong but when he spends months telling us what's going to happen, which never does, then months explaining why it didn't. Nothing to do with the fact he can't read a fight.

Tarkus wrote:There is never going to be a perfect condition Fury again and I am not into fantasy match ups. So I say this, if they ever fight Joshua will beat Fury.

Was there ever "a perfect condition Fury?"

Tbh, I always liked TyFu, but he is never going to be king of the hill again.

I've opted for Joshua KO, probably inside the first half of the fight.

All we know about Joshua is that he is an accurate big puncher that has one pace, which is high. His punch output is pretty high, and he counters extremely well.

All we know about Fury, in my opinion, is that he could beat a guy over 12 rounds that didn't throw a punch in anger. Fury may well be more skilled than Joshua, but this is heavyweight boxing, and the bigger puncher will always win. What's Fury going to do for 12 rounds? Avoid the fight?

Rob3_142 wrote:I've opted for Joshua KO, probably inside the first half of the fight.

All we know about Joshua is that he is an accurate big puncher that has one pace, which is high. His punch output is pretty high, and he counters extremely well.

All we know about Fury, in my opinion, is that he could beat a guy over 12 rounds that didn't throw a punch in anger. Fury may well be more skilled than Joshua, but this is heavyweight boxing, and the bigger puncher will always win. What's Fury going to do for 12 rounds? Avoid the fight?

The bigger puncher always wins? I think that statement will be quite hard to prove as it is demonstrably false. Fury has also shown he can box for 12 rounds and overcome hardship in the ring. He has dealt with pressure, power, and speed. AJ has yet to show he can do any of that at Fury's level.

Rob3_142 wrote:I've opted for Joshua KO, probably inside the first half of the fight.

All we know about Joshua is that he is an accurate big puncher that has one pace, which is high. His punch output is pretty high, and he counters extremely well.

All we know about Fury, in my opinion, is that he could beat a guy over 12 rounds that didn't throw a punch in anger. Fury may well be more skilled than Joshua, but this is heavyweight boxing, and the bigger puncher will always win. What's Fury going to do for 12 rounds? Avoid the fight?

But Twinkle Toes Pernell Fury can just dance for 12 rounds, Joshua wouldn't land a glove on him, reason being Joshua is unproven!

lol, the guy above my post actually just posted the same thing sans irony at the same time.

Rob3_142 wrote:I've opted for Joshua KO, probably inside the first half of the fight.

All we know about Joshua is that he is an accurate big puncher that has one pace, which is high. His punch output is pretty high, and he counters extremely well.

All we know about Fury, in my opinion, is that he could beat a guy over 12 rounds that didn't throw a punch in anger. Fury may well be more skilled than Joshua, but this is heavyweight boxing, and the bigger puncher will always win. What's Fury going to do for 12 rounds? Avoid the fight?

If the bigger puncher always won, Fury would have lost nearly every fight he's ever been in.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:I've opted for Joshua KO, probably inside the first half of the fight.

All we know about Joshua is that he is an accurate big puncher that has one pace, which is high. His punch output is pretty high, and he counters extremely well.

All we know about Fury, in my opinion, is that he could beat a guy over 12 rounds that didn't throw a punch in anger. Fury may well be more skilled than Joshua, but this is heavyweight boxing, and the bigger puncher will always win. What's Fury going to do for 12 rounds? Avoid the fight?

But Twinkle Toes Pernell Fury can just dance for 12 rounds, Joshua wouldn't land a glove on him, reason being Joshua is unproven!

Well mine was a realistic assessment of what both fighters have actually proven and not a guess based on preconceived biases or personal ignorance.

Fury has beaten cunningham, chisora and a Covent Garden Street Mime.

I'M SOLD

Riddick Blowe wrote:Fury has beaten cunningham, chisora and a Covent Garden Street Mime.

I'M SOLD

Hey!! If that's the mime I remember she's elusive as hell

Tanzio wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:Fury has beaten cunningham, chisora and a Covent Garden Street Mime.

I'M SOLD

Hey!! If that's the mime I remember she's elusive as hell

She stopped Charles Martin as well if I remember.

Well, just seen AJ vs Klit head to head and the hype train is intimidated by the old, slow, unable to throw a punch former champion who hasnt fought for 2 years and is over 40 years old. A bit of reality has hit home I think.

Rexob wrote:Well, just seen AJ vs Klit head to head and the hype train is intimidated by the old, slow, unable to throw a punch former champion who hasnt fought for 2 years and is over 40 years old. A bit of reality has hit home I think.

Really?

https://youtu.be/ZNaGLvMDgZw

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:There is never going to be a perfect condition Fury again and I am not into fantasy match ups. So I say this, if they ever fight Joshua will beat Fury.

Was there ever "a perfect condition Fury?"

Tbh, I always liked TyFu, but he is never going to be king of the hill again.

Yes thats what I meant too. I dont think he will ever be on the level he was before. His prime years are behind him sadly. Actually I doubt he returns to the ring at all.

If Fury recaptures the form he produced against Vlad, my money will be on him.
We will only see how Joshua performs at a higher level when he gets his shot against the Ukranian.

The fury that fought wlad would be lucky to last 3 rounds.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The fury that fought wlad would be lucky to last 3 rounds.

Totally understand your logic. Whyte and Brazeale stood right in front of him and lasted more than double that. AJ wouldn't land a single punch on the Fury that fought Wlad and would retire on his stool, exhausted.

AJ k.o within 5 rounds

Rexob wrote:Well, just seen AJ vs Klit head to head and the hype train is intimidated by the old, slow, unable to throw a punch former champion who hasnt fought for 2 years and is over 40 years old. A bit of reality has hit home I think.

Really? Were have you seen the signs of intimidation? I see signs of respect by aj but no intimidation

mickey1975 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The fury that fought wlad would be lucky to last 3 rounds.

Totally understand your logic. Whyte and Brazeale stood right in front of him and lasted more than double that. AJ wouldn't land a single punch on the Fury that fought Wlad and would retire on his stool, exhausted.

Wlad has a much worse chin than both of them. And Joshua seems to have a decent engine, it's hard to imagine him quitting on his stool against Fury, particularly if Fury lands the same as he did against Wlad (i.e. basically fvck all).

mickey1975 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The fury that fought wlad would be lucky to last 3 rounds.

Totally understand your logic. Whyte and Brazeale stood right in front of him and lasted more than double that. AJ wouldn't land a single punch on the Fury that fought Wlad and would retire on his stool, exhausted.

Fury wins by stoppage in about nine rounds.

Chisora hurt Whyte several times, and Mansour put DB down faster than AJ did. Hell, Eric Molina, stopped twice in the first, was about 50 seconds away from lasting 3.

Fury wouldnt at all be lucky to make it past that.