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Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 11:38
by Enlightened-One
Since the start of 2010, Floyd Mayweather Jr. defeated fighters whereby:
• Three were top-ten ranked pound-for-pounders at the time he faced them (Shane Mosley; Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao)
• Three are dead-cert first ballot Hall-of-Famers (Shane Mosley; Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao)
• Eight world champions (Andre Berto; Manny Pacquiao; Marcos Maidana; Saul Alvarez; Robert Guerrero; Miguel Cotto; Victor Ortiz; and Shane Mosley)
• Two are currently ranked in the top-ten pound-for-pound list and are also current world title holders (Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao)
• Six held world titles in multiple weight divisions (Manny Pacquiao; Marcos Maidana; Saul Alvarez; Robert Guerrero; Miguel Cotto; and Shane Mosley)
• Seven held world titles multiple times (Andre Berto; Manny Pacquiao; Marcos Maidana; Saul Alvarez; Robert Guerrero; Miguel Cotto; and Shane Mosley)
• Three are currently ranked in the top-ten of their respective weight divisions (Manny Pacquiao; Saul Alvarez; and Miguel Cotto)

Floyd Mayweather Jr. was rated in The Ring’s top two pound-for-pound fighters every year since the start of the decade: 2010 (2nd); 2011 (2nd); 2011 (1st); 2012 (1st); 2013 (1st); 2014 (1st); and 2015 (1st). He also dominated the only fighter (Manny Pacquiao) that was rated above him during that period.

I could list more accolades, but you'd struggle to top the above list... and I don't think there's enough time remaining during this decade for anyone to get remotely close to surpassing these accomplishments.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 11:49
by Jip
yeah, floyd was impressiv.

did you find pacquiao resume during that time impressiv?

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 12:50
by Enlightened-One
Jip wrote:yeah, floyd was impressiv.

did you find pacquiao resume during that time impressiv?
Pacquiao's resume has been impressive since the start of 2010, but not remotely close to Mayweather's.

Manny's prime years lasted until his November 2009 fight against the catchweight-drained Miguel Cotto - a fight he looked terrific in. He was also moderately impressive (in the context of his own very high standards) against Shane Mosley in 2011, but his form has gradually declined since then.

He's still a very decent world-class welterweight that is capable of beating a lot of today's young guns, but he is far removed from his prime and he is likely to be classed as the underdog against some of the top-tier 147lb-ers.

Put it this way, Amir Khan's chances of defeating Manny Pacquiao up until 2011 would have been laughed at by most hardcore fight fans, it may have even been regarded as a mismatch of monumental proportions, but April's bout is likely to be considered as a very competitive affair whereby many people won't be completely shocked to see the Brit emerge victorious.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 13:32
by darkstar81
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
darkstar81 wrote:There won't be a fighter who has dominated the whole decade (well at least 7 years).

First half Mayweather without a doubt.

Second half potentially GGG, Lomachenko, Mikey Garcia, Terence Crawrford, Anthony Joshua.. even Canelo if he starts fighting proper opposition.

But no Pacman/Mayweather of the 2000s or RJJ of the 90s
You need to do rjj/Whitaker. It's a myth that Jones dominated a decade.
Yeah fair point

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 18:55
by Thomastearns
Jip wrote:only based on record, it would have to be pacquiao. pac fought 1 year more and had much more fights.
loma, crawford, ggg all are in prime shape and these years they will do incredible stuff. they wont need gift descisions or pay cash judges.
Basically boxing is all about money for blood. Boxers want our money and we want their blood.
The boxers used to want the glory of being champion but the belts have been cheapened immeasurably in recent times.

[The rise of MMA does worry me, if only because of the lack of conditioning of some of the competitors - I don't enjoy watching out of condtion fighters literally getting their heads kicked in].

Mayweather Pacquiao and Klitschko Fury left a lot of paying fans feeling cheated.
Mayweather McGregor will happen if the money is there. Who in their right mind would not volunteer for getting beaten in the ring for ££££££££s?
The only question is how much longer can they keep swindling the fans?

It's high time the paying consumers woke up. There are still many great fights out there, GGG v Jacobs, Book v Spence, Pacquiao v Khan,
Lomachenko v Sosa, Klitschko v Joshua etc

These fights can help take the recent stink out of boxing and restore some of the glory that previous champions like Ali, Ray Robinson and Tyson basked in. These boxers would fight anybody, anywhere and didn't need to spend 2 years+ in 'negotiations'.
They were undisputed global World Champions.

Out of this decade the only 2 that come to mind are Pacquiao and Golovkin.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 27 Feb 2017, 01:45
by Jip
Thomastearns wrote:
Jip wrote:only based on record, it would have to be pacquiao. pac fought 1 year more and had much more fights.
loma, crawford, ggg all are in prime shape and these years they will do incredible stuff. they wont need gift descisions or pay cash judges.
Basically boxing is all about money for blood. Boxers want our money and we want their blood.
The boxers used to want the glory of being champion but the belts have been cheapened immeasurably in recent times.

[The rise of MMA does worry me, if only because of the lack of conditioning of some of the competitors - I don't enjoy watching out of condtion fighters literally getting their heads kicked in].

Mayweather Pacquiao and Klitschko Fury left a lot of paying fans feeling cheated.
Mayweather McGregor will happen if the money is there. Who in their right mind would not volunteer for getting beaten in the ring for ££££££££s?
The only question is how much longer can they keep swindling the fans?

It's high time the paying consumers woke up. There are still many great fights out there, GGG v Jacobs, Book v Spence, Pacquiao v Khan,
Lomachenko v Sosa, Klitschko v Joshua etc

These fights can help take the recent stink out of boxing and restore some of the glory that previous champions like Ali, Ray Robinson and Tyson basked in. These boxers would fight anybody, anywhere and didn't need to spend 2 years+ in 'negotiations'.
They were undisputed global World Champions.

Out of this decade the only 2 that come to mind are Pacquiao and Golovkin.

don't worry about mma. ufc is awful and their business is over. fertitta knew that and sold it quick. like you said, they unconditioned. i say, not only unconditioned, but bums. all stars of the ufc are gone. ronda lost and her career is over. aldo wants out of ufc. brock is a steriod user that i can't take serious. there is only 1 guy left in the ufc who is a star and that is conor. and he gets a baby and wants 1 big time paycheck vs floyd and is more focused on boxing floyd for 20+ million, than doing a ufc fight for 2 million. ufc is over.

boxing au contraire is at a wonderful place. canelo, pacquiao, joshua, GGG, lomachenko, etc., we have so many stars, so many potential of world class boxers like thurman, spence, crawford or bertebiev who could become big names. also my prediction that after the very poor boxing year 2016 will follow a phenomenal boxing year was 100 % right. 2017 is as great as i predicted it to be. spence/brook, garcia/thurman, joshua/klitschko, pacquiao/khan, GGG/jacobs, canelo/chavez, come one, 2017 will be amongs the best boxing years in a long long time.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 27 Feb 2017, 03:05
by SaadOffTheDeck
UFC is thriving, kid. Great start of the year for Boxing, though.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 28 Feb 2017, 06:36
by Jip
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:UFC is thriving, kid. Great start of the year for Boxing, though.
yeah thriving with drug cheaters and ronda losing badly and ufc losing one star after the other and with the potential of the last star they have leaving ufc also. great future :wave: :TU:

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 28 Feb 2017, 07:21
by SaadOffTheDeck
Jip wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:UFC is thriving, kid. Great start of the year for Boxing, though.
yeah thriving with drug cheaters and ronda losing badly and ufc losing one star after the other and with the potential of the last star they have leaving ufc also. great future :wave: :TU:
You're clueless.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 28 Feb 2017, 08:19
by ElJefe
How does a genuinely interesting thread about boxing end up in an argument about MMA within 2 pages? :lol:

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 28 Feb 2017, 08:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
No argument, just cheppaa denying the facts of life.

Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 01 Mar 2017, 16:08
by Sequitorian
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:UFC is thriving, kid. Great start of the year for Boxing, though.
... MMA is a degenerate sport ...

... study boxing ...

http://www.boxingarts.com/

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Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 01 Mar 2017, 16:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
Sequitorian wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:UFC is thriving, kid. Great start of the year for Boxing, though.
... MMA is a degenerate sport ...

... study boxing ...

http://www.boxingarts.com/

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Re: Who'll be considered #1 boxer of 2010-2020 decade?

Posted: 01 Mar 2017, 16:47
by Thomastearns
To be regarded as the greatest boxer of this or any decade, being a champion is not enough. You need to be an undisputed champion. Unfortunately many factors, mainly greed and cowardice, prevent this from happening.

I'm not talking about the boxers, these guys are bravery personified. I'm referring to the promoters and the sanctioning bodies. This is why Lennox Lewis was the last undisputed heavyweight champion back in 2000 ( OK Vitali Klitschko could have been undisputed champion if he would have been prepared to knock out his brother, but you get the point).

In fact it looks like we have to go back to 2006 to find the last undisputed champion (Zab Judah at welterweight!).
Golovkin, Joshua, Wilder etc should make unification their
priority. Paying for hyped bullshit melodramas is our own business but let's not mistake them for greatness.