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Syntax Error wrote:Middleweight king Gennady Golovkin wants a fight with a 40 year old welterweight!

OK, I know it isn't quite that simple, but that's what it translates too ultimately.

I love Golovkin as a fighter, but he really needs to leave the Mayweather sleeping dog to lie.

If Mayweather decides he wants to return & jump up, that's his call, but there is no way that the most destructive & feared MW for a generation should be calling out a 40 year old welterweight that hasn't fought in the best part of 2 years.

he aint calling him out. ggg is not a big talker. on that tv show espn they asked him "do you want floyd" and he said "of course yes". its not that he is yelling out on every ocasion that he wants floyd. but to be honest, thats a mistake. if i would be ggg i would call every big money name out everytime i can, because money is important and guys like floyd and canelo bring it and i would not give a care if floyd is 40 or not. did floyd care about fans, when he matched himself up against a boxer who had 0 business being in a ring with atg, i am talking about berto. did canelo care when he fought a welterweight with 0 chin in khan? no, they all dont care. ggg is boxing the best middleweights out there, jacobs, lemieaux etc. so no shame on him. canelo is coming up in weight, so ggg/canelo will happen, if they dont act like primadonnas.

A few thoughts about this subject:

#1 Coming out of retirement and beating GGG at 154 is the ONLY way I would ever consider Floyd to be TBE. I'd reluctantly have to bite my tongue and give the Floyd lovers their due.

#2 GGG is not motivated about money. He's motivated by making his legacy and putting his mark on the sport. Sure he wants his equal due share of a purse for a fight because it's about respect at that point. He's not just going to travel up and down the scale chasing dollars for the likes of a Cotto or Canelo. Like he said, if there's a fight that intrigues him at 168 he'd go. But these people talking Cotto at 154, please. Cotto is junk and GGG knew he'd never make any history beating that fish, the most overrated boxer in history. Same with Canelo at 154. No interest in it and why should he? He's the MW champion of the world.

#3 NO WAY Floyd takes this fight and so i'll continue to not consider him a great boxer historically. Too many ducked bouts and too much assistance inside and out of the ring. Sorry, you can't even buy tickets to get visit my HOF Floyd.

Syntax Error wrote:Middleweight king Gennady Golovkin wants a fight with a 40 year old welterweight!

OK, I know it isn't quite that simple, but that's what it translates too ultimately.

I love Golovkin as a fighter, but he really needs to leave the Mayweather sleeping dog to lie.

If Mayweather decides he wants to return & jump up, that's his call, but there is no way that the most destructive & feared MW for a generation should be calling out a 40 year old welterweight that hasn't fought in the best part of 2 years.

Tom Loeffler (GGG's promoter) has recently made multiple calls for Golovkin to face Carl Froch, a fighter (in a month or so) that will also be forty years of age and retired for more than three years.

Syntax Error wrote:Middleweight king Gennady Golovkin wants a fight with a 40 year old welterweight!

OK, I know it isn't quite that simple, but that's what it translates into ultimately.

I love Golovkin as a fighter, but he really needs to leave the Mayweather sleeping dog to lie.

If Mayweather decides he wants to return & jump up, that's his call, but there is no way that the most destructive & feared MW for a generation should be calling out a 40 year old welterweight that hasn't fought in the best part of 2 years.

You would be right if Mayweather wasn't saying that he could easily beat Golovkin.

An American that dares to box against a good boxer, I'd have to see that! No, Mayweather would never dare that.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:Middleweight king Gennady Golovkin wants a fight with a 40 year old welterweight!

OK, I know it isn't quite that simple, but that's what it translates into ultimately.

I love Golovkin as a fighter, but he really needs to leave the Mayweather sleeping dog to lie.

If Mayweather decides he wants to return & jump up, that's his call, but there is no way that the most destructive & feared MW for a generation should be calling out a 40 year old welterweight that hasn't fought in the best part of 2 years.

You would be right if Mayweather wasn't saying that he could easily beat Golovkin.

Can you prove that or is that another bit of bravado on your part?

caldo2025 wrote:A few thoughts about this subject:

#1 Coming out of retirement and beating GGG at 154 is the ONLY way I would ever consider Floyd to be TBE. I'd reluctantly have to bite my tongue and give the Floyd lovers their due.

#2 GGG is not motivated about money. He's motivated by making his legacy and putting his mark on the sport. Sure he wants his equal due share of a purse for a fight because it's about respect at that point. He's not just going to travel up and down the scale chasing dollars for the likes of a Cotto or Canelo. Like he said, if there's a fight that intrigues him at 168 he'd go. But these people talking Cotto at 154, please. Cotto is junk and GGG knew he'd never make any history beating that fish, the most overrated boxer in history. Same with Canelo at 154. No interest in it and why should he? He's the MW champion of the world.

#3 NO WAY Floyd takes this fight and so i'll continue to not consider him a great boxer historically. Too many ducked bouts and too much assistance inside and out of the ring. Sorry, you can't even buy tickets to get visit my HOF Floyd.

You know what would have been great for that? Stepping up in weight and fighting Ward, or even Froch. Even fighting Canelo, even if not on his own terms, to inify and get the lineal title.

Part great middleweights have won titles up to heavyweight! Yet GGG can't go up 8 pounds to be a 2 weight champion..

BitPlayer wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:A few thoughts about this subject:

#1 Coming out of retirement and beating GGG at 154 is the ONLY way I would ever consider Floyd to be TBE. I'd reluctantly have to bite my tongue and give the Floyd lovers their due.

#2 GGG is not motivated about money. He's motivated by making his legacy and putting his mark on the sport. Sure he wants his equal due share of a purse for a fight because it's about respect at that point. He's not just going to travel up and down the scale chasing dollars for the likes of a Cotto or Canelo. Like he said, if there's a fight that intrigues him at 168 he'd go. But these people talking Cotto at 154, please. Cotto is junk and GGG knew he'd never make any history beating that fish, the most overrated boxer in history. Same with Canelo at 154. No interest in it and why should he? He's the MW champion of the world.

#3 NO WAY Floyd takes this fight and so i'll continue to not consider him a great boxer historically. Too many ducked bouts and too much assistance inside and out of the ring. Sorry, you can't even buy tickets to get visit my HOF Floyd.

You know what would have been great for that? Stepping up in weight and fighting Ward, or even Froch. Even fighting Canelo, even if not on his own terms, to inify and get the lineal title.

Part great middleweights have won titles up to heavyweight! Yet GGG can't go up 8 pounds to be a 2 weight champion..

for who? going up in weight to fight ward who bores the crowd everytime he steps inside the ring? for degale?

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:Middleweight king Gennady Golovkin wants a fight with a 40 year old welterweight!

OK, I know it isn't quite that simple, but that's what it translates into ultimately.

I love Golovkin as a fighter, but he really needs to leave the Mayweather sleeping dog to lie.

If Mayweather decides he wants to return & jump up, that's his call, but there is no way that the most destructive & feared MW for a generation should be calling out a 40 year old welterweight that hasn't fought in the best part of 2 years.

You would be right if Mayweather wasn't saying that he could easily beat Golovkin.

Can you prove that or is that another bit of bravado on your part?

"Triple G, I mean, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects," said Mayweather. "That's easy work."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxZhbPYz7c

Jip wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:A few thoughts about this subject:

#1 Coming out of retirement and beating GGG at 154 is the ONLY way I would ever consider Floyd to be TBE. I'd reluctantly have to bite my tongue and give the Floyd lovers their due.

#2 GGG is not motivated about money. He's motivated by making his legacy and putting his mark on the sport. Sure he wants his equal due share of a purse for a fight because it's about respect at that point. He's not just going to travel up and down the scale chasing dollars for the likes of a Cotto or Canelo. Like he said, if there's a fight that intrigues him at 168 he'd go. But these people talking Cotto at 154, please. Cotto is junk and GGG knew he'd never make any history beating that fish, the most overrated boxer in history. Same with Canelo at 154. No interest in it and why should he? He's the MW champion of the world.

#3 NO WAY Floyd takes this fight and so i'll continue to not consider him a great boxer historically. Too many ducked bouts and too much assistance inside and out of the ring. Sorry, you can't even buy tickets to get visit my HOF Floyd.

You know what would have been great for that? Stepping up in weight and fighting Ward, or even Froch. Even fighting Canelo, even if not on his own terms, to inify and get the lineal title.

Part great middleweights have won titles up to heavyweight! Yet GGG can't go up 8 pounds to be a 2 weight champion..

for who? going up in weight to fight ward who bores the crowd everytime he steps inside the ring? for degale?

Fair point much better to fight exciting welterweight prospects than a legitimate Ssuper middleweight, especially for his super legacy of having most of the belts in one division.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
You would be right if Mayweather wasn't saying that he could easily beat Golovkin.

Can you prove that or is that another bit of bravado on your part?

"Triple G, I mean, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects," said Mayweather. "That's easy work."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxZhbPYz7c

"I can barely make 147, so how am I gonna fight at 160? Triple G, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects. That's easy work."

That's the full quote.

The video doesn't backup your belief since he didn't use the word "easy" and it was filmed two years ago (roughly).

What does Mayweather say now that he's in his forties and been retired for almost two years?

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Can you prove that or is that another bit of bravado on your part?

"Triple G, I mean, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects," said Mayweather. "That's easy work."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxZhbPYz7c

"I can barely make 147, so how am I gonna fight at 160? Triple G, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects. That's easy work."

That's the full quote.

The video doesn't backup your belief since he didn't use the word "easy" and it was filmed two years ago (roughly).

What does Mayweather say now that he's in his forties and been retired for almost two years?

Wait...what?

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxZhbPYz7c

"I can barely make 147, so how am I gonna fight at 160? Triple G, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects. That's easy work."

That's the full quote.

The video doesn't backup your belief since he didn't use the word "easy" and it was filmed two years ago (roughly).

What does Mayweather say now that he's in his forties and been retired for almost two years?

Wait...what?

If you'd bothered to watch the video, Mayweather doesn't use the "easy work" quote, which boxing_rocks referred to.

He said it in a different interview, Mayweather explained his own lack of size and was commenting on Golovkin's simple style, so I provided the full quote.

Regardless, Mayweather has been retired since 2015, he's in his forties and he's physically the size of a welterweight. So it's a silly notion to propose a Mayweather-Golovkin bout.

Enlightened-One wrote: If you'd bothered to watch the video, Mayweather doesn't use the "easy work" quote, which boxing_rocks referred to.

He said it in a different interview, Mayweather explained his own lack of size and was commenting on Golovkin's simple style, so I provided the full quote.

Regardless, Mayweather has been retired since 2015, he's in his forties and he's physically the size of a welterweight. So it's a silly notion to propose a Mayweather-Golovkin bout.

I agree it's a silly notion from a fans perspective, but there's nothing wrong with a fighter trying to land a mega payday like that. That's the only reason Floyd's still being talked about at all; he represents the biggest check in the sport. This will continue for another 4-5 years and after that he will be old enough and "forgotten" enough that his name won't be thrown around like this anymore.

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: If you'd bothered to watch the video, Mayweather doesn't use the "easy work" quote, which boxing_rocks referred to.

He said it in a different interview, Mayweather explained his own lack of size and was commenting on Golovkin's simple style, so I provided the full quote.

Regardless, Mayweather has been retired since 2015, he's in his forties and he's physically the size of a welterweight. So it's a silly notion to propose a Mayweather-Golovkin bout.

I agree it's a silly notion from a fans perspective, but there's nothing wrong with a fighter trying to land a mega payday like that. That's the only reason Floyd's still being talked about at all; he represents the biggest check in the sport. This will continue for another 4-5 years and after that he will be old enough and "forgotten" enough that his name won't be thrown around like this anymore.

Fair enough, I can't disagree with that.

Enlightened-One wrote:If 154lbs is a really good category for Gennady Golovkin, why did he refuse to consider facing Cotto and Canelo a couple of years ago at 155lbs?

Why did GGG initially refuse to consider competing at 157lbs when he was originally offered the Brook fight six months earlier than when he eventually faced him at 160lbs?

Golovkin has persistently maintained that 154lbs was a really good weight division for him, but then complains that he can’t get fights, even though common sense dictates that if he can make 154lbs very well, then 155lbs should be easier.

If GGG insists on facing smaller men, but he refuses to compromise, then does he not deserve some measure of criticism for failing to call Canelo’s bluff when the 155lbs stipulation was originally requested a couple of years ago?

Because he didn't have to come down for them.. They were Middleweight Champions fighting for the Middleweight Title.. He only wanted to fight them because they were champions.. Floyd was a 154-pound champion who doesn't rehydrate 20 pounds after the weigh-in.. It's only fair to come down to 154 for him -- and to get a great fight that would break all records.. You have to sacrifice a little to make a fight everybody wants to see.. But it needs to be a reasonable sacrifice.. If you're the Middleweight Champion lets have the fight at Middleweight.

Their continues the nonsense. Floyd saying yesterday with jhonny nelson :"i was always able easily to make welterweight and junior middleweight weight"

so one day he says he cant barely make 154 therefore no catch weight fight with ggg, now he says it would be easy. typical floyd, like his fans, both disorder

the guy is full of nonsense. now he is saying "fighters want mayweather paydays, but dont want to train hard like mayweather" GGG is constantly in big bear away from his family, constantly training in high altitude, koing oppenents every 3 month.

what a stupid man. basicly every sentence of what floyd is saying is "look how great i am, look how shite they are"

the most self centered boxer i have ever seen. a liar.

BitPlayer wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:A few thoughts about this subject:

#1 Coming out of retirement and beating GGG at 154 is the ONLY way I would ever consider Floyd to be TBE. I'd reluctantly have to bite my tongue and give the Floyd lovers their due.

#2 GGG is not motivated about money. He's motivated by making his legacy and putting his mark on the sport. Sure he wants his equal due share of a purse for a fight because it's about respect at that point. He's not just going to travel up and down the scale chasing dollars for the likes of a Cotto or Canelo. Like he said, if there's a fight that intrigues him at 168 he'd go. But these people talking Cotto at 154, please. Cotto is junk and GGG knew he'd never make any history beating that fish, the most overrated boxer in history. Same with Canelo at 154. No interest in it and why should he? He's the MW champion of the world.

#3 NO WAY Floyd takes this fight and so i'll continue to not consider him a great boxer historically. Too many ducked bouts and too much assistance inside and out of the ring. Sorry, you can't even buy tickets to get visit my HOF Floyd.

You know what would have been great for that? Stepping up in weight and fighting Ward, or even Froch. Even fighting Canelo, even if not on his own terms, to inify and get the lineal title.

Part great middleweights have won titles up to heavyweight! Yet GGG can't go up 8 pounds to be a 2 weight champion..

I guess you are one of those then ha? First off, the MW that end up moving up to heavyweight did so because they at themselves out of the division or were sucking so much weight to get to MW that they really shouldn't even have been in the division.

GGG has been trying to unify the MW titles for 7 years and he's still missing belts. Had boxing not been a joke and he had the chance to unify earlier, then we'd see GGG's second act which would be to start collecting more belts and big fights. The Wards, Froch's and Kovalev fights were definitely on the play sheet but the sport has made it so difficult on GGG to get these belts that the sport is now missing out on some great fights that could have been made up and down the scale.

GGG is focused on just one thing...undisputed MW champion of the world.

BitPlayer wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:A few thoughts about this subject:

#1 Coming out of retirement and beating GGG at 154 is the ONLY way I would ever consider Floyd to be TBE. I'd reluctantly have to bite my tongue and give the Floyd lovers their due.

#2 GGG is not motivated about money. He's motivated by making his legacy and putting his mark on the sport. Sure he wants his equal due share of a purse for a fight because it's about respect at that point. He's not just going to travel up and down the scale chasing dollars for the likes of a Cotto or Canelo. Like he said, if there's a fight that intrigues him at 168 he'd go. But these people talking Cotto at 154, please. Cotto is junk and GGG knew he'd never make any history beating that fish, the most overrated boxer in history. Same with Canelo at 154. No interest in it and why should he? He's the MW champion of the world.

#3 NO WAY Floyd takes this fight and so i'll continue to not consider him a great boxer historically. Too many ducked bouts and too much assistance inside and out of the ring. Sorry, you can't even buy tickets to get visit my HOF Floyd.

You know what would have been great for that? Stepping up in weight and fighting Ward, or even Froch. Even fighting Canelo, even if not on his own terms, to inify and get the lineal title.

Part great middleweights have won titles up to heavyweight! Yet GGG can't go up 8 pounds to be a 2 weight champion..

Hagler and monzon didn't. Ggg wanted to fight froch and signed to fight Chavez. There's no fights there bigger than 160.

Golovkin called Mayweather out over 2 years ago when Floyd was still active... His offer was going to 154 which is a title Floyd HELD at the time... Floyd chickened out then... and that's all you need to know... GGG knows Floyd will never fight him... He's just tired of Floyd saying Canelo will knock Golovkin out.. GGG would knock out Canelo and Floyd on the same night.