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Stuarty30 wrote:He's not even the best in Britain. Josh Taylor will slap him around

no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

world ranked wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:He's not even the best in Britain. Josh Taylor will slap him around

no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

Different stages in their careers. I'd still take Taylor over Davies. He's a better all round fighter so there's every chance man.

Stuarty30 wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:He's not even the best in Britain. Josh Taylor will slap him around

no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

Different stages in their careers. I'd still take Taylor over Davies. He's a better all round fighter so there's every chance man.

If there the same level as fighters as you suggest why isn't Josh Taylor at least at euro/brittish level. Hearn did say he wants Taylor for Davies so if Taylors team fancy it. Probably can happen.

world ranked wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

world ranked wrote:
no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

Different stages in their careers. I'd still take Taylor over Davies. He's a better all round fighter so there's every chance man.

If there the same level as fighters as you suggest why isn't Josh Taylor at least at euro/brittish level. Hearn did say he wants Taylor for Davies so if Taylors team fancy it. Probably can happen.

Taylor said he'll take the fight in a heartbeat as has his promoter McGuigan. I didn't say they were the same level I said Taylor is the better fighter.

PS what Eddie Hearn says and what Eddie Hearn does are two very different things.

Yes. Much better. His performance to KO the shop worn Derry Mathews (at 140) far eclipses anything Crawford has done to date. Like beat Gamboa Burns Postol Molina Beltran. ahem

Jip wrote:Is Ohara Davis better than Terence Crawford?

is it just me or does he seem more athletic, with equal reach and closly as much power as crawford

This thread deserved a bump, shocking how little some people know

Jip wrote:is it just me or does he seem more athletic, with equal reach and closly as much power as crawford

wow

Boxerbeetle wrote:This thread deserved a bump, shocking how little some people know

I'm not for being smarmy after someone gets a pick wrong but this is pretty spectacularly wrong. Especially seeing as Jip once told me he was an expert and I was clueless.

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Boxerbeetle wrote:This thread deserved a bump, shocking how little some people know

I'm not for being smarmy after someone gets a pick wrong but this is pretty spectacularly wrong. Especially seeing as Jip once told me he was an expert and I was clueless.

That's the problem with forums like this; some people think their opinions are facts.

Sometimes, even self appointed 'experts' can get things spectacularly wrong.

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Boxerbeetle wrote:This thread deserved a bump, shocking how little some people know

I'm not for being smarmy after someone gets a pick wrong but this is pretty spectacularly wrong. Especially seeing as Jip once told me he was an expert and I was clueless.

That's the problem with forums like this; some people think their opinions are facts.

Sometimes, even self appointed 'experts' can get things spectacularly wrong.

That's why boxing is great. If everything happened as I think it will it would be tiresome. I didn't offer a pick last night as I hadn't seen Taylor much and thought Davies was decent enough but there was clearly faults there. Sometimes it's fun to just watch. Comparing him to Crawford is pretty bad though.

Davies looked a bit lost last night

world ranked wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:He's not even the best in Britain. Josh Taylor will slap him around

no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

I dont like to throw it in people's faces, and Im wrong plenty myself, but I really have no idea how people couldve watched Davies and think he was world class and/or on a different level to Taylor. He's got loads of technical flaws (e.g very wide punches from too far out), his footwork is plodding, he's a bit short for 140, and he isnt particulary fast handed or big punching.

To me he's a poor man's Broner, and I found it striking how he was being talked about on the world scene even though he'd never fought beyond English level prior to Scarpa and shopworn Matthews. I think he partially gobbed himself into that...

Let's see how he comes back from being outclassed, beaten up, and stopped. Even he admitted that it was an embarrassing loss,

crusader wrote:I dont like to throw it in people's faces, and Im wrong plenty myself, but I really have no idea how people couldve watched Davies and think he was world class and/or on a different level to Taylor. He's got loads of technical flaws (e.g very wide punches from too far out), his footwork is plodding, he's a bit short for 140, and he isnt particulary fast handed or big punching.

To me he's a poor man's Broner, and I found it striking how he was being talked about on the world scene even though he'd never fought beyond English level prior to Scarpa and shopworn Matthews. I think he partially gobbed himself into that...

Let's see how he comes back from being outclassed, beaten up, and stopped. Even he admitted that it was an embarrassing loss,

Did he? What else did he say, did he say why he was gesturing to his eye. Or was he just wanting a way out?

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world ranked wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:He's not even the best in Britain. Josh Taylor will slap him around

no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

Fair play to Taylor he made me look silly. I was clearly wrong here.

world ranked wrote:

Naandrew wrote:

world ranked wrote:
no chance while Josh Taylor fight for commwealth title. Davies is ranked by the WBC and could fight world level guys know. He just bypassed the Taylor level.

Fair play to Taylor he made me look silly. I was clearly wrong here.

Nothing wrong with being wrong mate, as long as you didn't go so far as to say Davis was better than Terence Crawford

Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

Are you now saying that Davis is on FMJ's level, just tactically flawed? What level do you have Taylor on? Is he the next Gingerhead?

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

So you were right, he just fought wrong? Surely would have won? He got his ass whipped.

handsofstone wrote:Yes of course its obvious

The sight of jip tripping over his own clown-shoes isn't going away any time soon

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

You make a rod for your own back with all the "I'm an expert" garbage but at least you stick around and face up to the gloating when you get one (embarrassingly) wrong. It's a decently admirable quality. even if in this case it just means we can laugh at you more.

As for the fight, Davies doesn't have the footspeed nor balance to perform the game plan you've laid out. He tried boxing at long range but after the first round he was getting picked apart. He had to try to slug it out because it was the only way he had any kind of chance at all. Taylor is just a better fighter, close range or long.

Speaking of British prospects, what's your opinion of Anthony Yarde? Hasn't fought at any kind of level yet but seems like the kind of fighter you tend to like: fast, athletic, relaxed but aggressive, good power. Might be worth a look.

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

So you're saying that if O'hara had adopted a competely different fighting style, one that we've never previously seen him employ before and is probably incapable of doing, then he wouldn't have lost to Taylor?

I think you're simply trying to dig yourself a giant hole.

It's like saying that if Andre Berto had better physical attributes, had much more skill, better handspeed, better timing, better strategy, fantastic foortwork, incredible ring generalship and vastly heavier-handed, then he would have beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr!