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Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 09:27
by boxing_rocks
Browne.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 16:32
by asdfjkl
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Good call, they can shoot roids between rounds.
Briggs doesn't use roids, Stiverne does, maybe Stiverne can fight Arreola, they might shoot roids between rounds indeed.
Yeah, stiverne/arreola 3 is a good call. Briggs is for sure clean? Not even in astma medication.
Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 18:08
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Briggs doesn't use roids, Stiverne does, maybe Stiverne can fight Arreola, they might shoot roids between rounds indeed.
Yeah, stiverne/arreola 3 is a good call. Briggs is for sure clean? Not even in astma medication.
Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.
You can develop asthma as an adult.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 18:24
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Yeah, stiverne/arreola 3 is a good call. Briggs is for sure clean? Not even in astma medication.
Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.
You can develop asthma as an adult.
I know, but he already had it as a child, so in his case, it's not an excuse to take all kind of drugs to cheat with, he actually was diagnosed having it before he was into boxing at all.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 20:06
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.
You can develop asthma as an adult.
I know, but he already had it as a child, so in his case, it's not an excuse to take all kind of drugs to cheat with, he actually was diagnosed having it before he was into boxing at all.
But the drugs used to treat asthma are not specifically performance enhancing or banned.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 23:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Briggs doesn't use roids, Stiverne does, maybe Stiverne can fight Arreola, they might shoot roids between rounds indeed.
Yeah, stiverne/arreola 3 is a good call. Briggs is for sure clean? Not even in astma medication.
Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.
Jerome bettis had asthma. I had it bad as a kid and it went away. Briggs is a medicine cabinet. That won't help him against anyone of note. If he can't stop Fred in 6 minutes he'll get clowned.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 14:01
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
You can develop asthma as an adult.
I know, but he already had it as a child, so in his case, it's not an excuse to take all kind of drugs to cheat with, he actually was diagnosed having it before he was into boxing at all.
But the drugs used to treat asthma are not specifically performance enhancing or banned.
Hmmm... Yes they are

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 16:33
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I know, but he already had it as a child, so in his case, it's not an excuse to take all kind of drugs to cheat with, he actually was diagnosed having it before he was into boxing at all.
But the drugs used to treat asthma are not specifically performance enhancing or banned.
Hmmm... Yes they are
Which ones?

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 16:46
by boxing_rocks
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
But the drugs used to treat asthma are not specifically performance enhancing or banned.
Hmmm... Yes they are
Which ones?
Ones containing steroids.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 20:27
by Rob3_142
boxing_rocks wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Hmmm... Yes they are
Which ones?
Ones containing steroids.
Could you be a little more specific? Do you mean Vitamin D? Cholesterol? Corticosteroids?

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 20:59
by Kalan
Povetkin will fight anyone willing to step into the ring with him..

Fury, Ortiz, Parker, Wilder, Bellew, Ruiz, Jennings, Browne, Tepper, Martin, Brezeale, Glazkov or anybody else... Line 'em up.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 21:07
by Blodhemn
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Yeah, stiverne/arreola 3 is a good call. Briggs is for sure clean? Not even in astma medication.
Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.
Jerome bettis had asthma. I had it bad as a kid and it went away. Briggs is a medicine cabinet. That won't help him against anyone of note. If he can't stop Fred in 6 minutes he'll get clowned.
"Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma" is possibly the most blanket statement I've ever seen.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 23:58
by actjac
Why not versus Lucas Browne in Russia?

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 04:19
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
But the drugs used to treat asthma are not specifically performance enhancing or banned.
Hmmm... Yes they are
Which ones?
Albuterol, clenbuterol, name them

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 04:20
by asdfjkl
Blodhemn wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma, diagnosed when he was 10 year old at a moment he had no pro athlete aspirations.
Jerome bettis had asthma. I had it bad as a kid and it went away. Briggs is a medicine cabinet. That won't help him against anyone of note. If he can't stop Fred in 6 minutes he'll get clowned.
"Briggs is about the only athlete who actually has astma" is possibly the most blanket statement I've ever seen.
Then you should ask to top cyclists, pretty much all of them claim to have astma, but all of them are the best cyclists in the world, odd isn't it?

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 11:43
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Hmmm... Yes they are
Which ones?
Albuterol, clenbuterol, name them
Albuterol (also known as Salbutamol) have a therapeutic threshold of 1600 mg every 24 hours.

Clenbuterol is not a named on the WADA banned list.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 13:11
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Which ones?
Albuterol, clenbuterol, name them
Albuterol (also known as Salbutamol) have a therapeutic threshold of 1600 mg every 24 hours.

Clenbuterol is not a named on the WADA banned list.
Clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and there is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.
I beg you, please just try do a little bit of research before you type anything further. You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 13:21
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Albuterol, clenbuterol, name them
Albuterol (also known as Salbutamol) have a therapeutic threshold of 1600 mg every 24 hours.

Clenbuterol is not a named on the WADA banned list.
Clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and there is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.
I beg you, please just try do a little bit of research before you type anything further. You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment.
Granted I can see the references on Wikipedia, but cannot see it listed on the WADA website of prohibited substances.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... 2-agonists

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 15:34
by boxing_rocks
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Albuterol (also known as Salbutamol) have a therapeutic threshold of 1600 mg every 24 hours.

Clenbuterol is not a named on the WADA banned list.
Clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and there is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.
I beg you, please just try do a little bit of research before you type anything further. You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment.
Granted I can see the references on Wikipedia, but cannot see it listed on the WADA website of prohibited substances.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... 2-agonists
Did you try to use search ?

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/search?k=Cl ... &op=Search
June 15, 2011
WADA statement on clenbuterol

Following current media interest in relation to clenbuterol, WADA wishes to clarify the following: 1. Clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and there is no threshold under which ...

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 15:36
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Albuterol (also known as Salbutamol) have a therapeutic threshold of 1600 mg every 24 hours.

Clenbuterol is not a named on the WADA banned list.
Clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and there is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.
I beg you, please just try do a little bit of research before you type anything further. You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment.
Granted I can see the references on Wikipedia, but cannot see it listed on the WADA website of prohibited substances.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... 2-agonists
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... lic-agents

"2. OTHER ANABOLIC AGENTS

Including, but not limited to:

Clenbuterol
Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs), e.g. andarine and ostarine;
Tibolone
Zeranol
Zilpaterol"

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 15:48
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and there is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.
I beg you, please just try do a little bit of research before you type anything further. You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment.
Granted I can see the references on Wikipedia, but cannot see it listed on the WADA website of prohibited substances.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... 2-agonists
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... lic-agents

"2. OTHER ANABOLIC AGENTS

Including, but not limited to:

Clenbuterol
Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs), e.g. andarine and ostarine;
Tibolone
Zeranol
Zilpaterol"
Many apologies to both, I was pretty certain that Clenbuterol was a β-2 agonist, not an anabolic agent. It acts pharmacologically very similar to Salbutamol so a little surprised it was in a different section.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 18:44
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Granted I can see the references on Wikipedia, but cannot see it listed on the WADA website of prohibited substances.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... 2-agonists
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... lic-agents

"2. OTHER ANABOLIC AGENTS

Including, but not limited to:

Clenbuterol
Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs), e.g. andarine and ostarine;
Tibolone
Zeranol
Zilpaterol"
Many apologies to both, I was pretty certain that Clenbuterol was a β-2 agonist, not an anabolic agent. It acts pharmacologically very similar to Salbutamol so a little surprised it was in a different section.
Same story with aspirines and meldonium.

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 20:12
by Stuarty
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... lic-agents

"2. OTHER ANABOLIC AGENTS

Including, but not limited to:

Clenbuterol
Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs), e.g. andarine and ostarine;
Tibolone
Zeranol
Zilpaterol"
Many apologies to both, I was pretty certain that Clenbuterol was a β-2 agonist, not an anabolic agent. It acts pharmacologically very similar to Salbutamol so a little surprised it was in a different section.
Same story with aspirines and meldonium.
You are a special kind of retard!

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 09:31
by asdfjkl
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Many apologies to both, I was pretty certain that Clenbuterol was a β-2 agonist, not an anabolic agent. It acts pharmacologically very similar to Salbutamol so a little surprised it was in a different section.
Same story with aspirines and meldonium.
You are a special kind of retard!
First I'm teaching him all kind of stuf around those medicines and now I'm the retard? What kind of retard are you?

Re: who is POVETKIN expected to fight next ? *

Posted: 22 Mar 2017, 07:42
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Same story with aspirines and meldonium.
You are a special kind of retard!
First I'm teaching him all kind of stuf around those medicines and now I'm the retard? What kind of retard are you?
I'm now convinced you're now just a troll asdfjkl. Nobody can be consistently this ignorant and stupid.

Aspirin thins the blood by inhibiting platelet aggregation and acts as an analgesic, offering effective pain relief.
Meldonium has the potential modulate hormones, which aspirin does not, and can not do.

How are they similar?