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Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 14:39
by Jip
jezzamundo wrote:In a round-robin tournament where every fighter faces each other twice, 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw:

Trinidad TKO6 Hearns, Hearns UD12 Trinidad - Trinidad 2, Hearns 2.
Duran UD12 Mayweather, Mayweather UD12 Duran - Duran 2, Mayweather 2.
Robinson UD12 Thurman, Robinson KO6 Thurman - Robinson 4, Thurmann 0.
Quartey Draw12 Forrest, Forrest UD12 Quartey - Forrest 3, Quartey 1.

Mayweather UD12 Thurman, Mayweather UD12 Thurman - Mayweather 6, Thurman 0.
Hearns MD12 Robinson, Robinson TKO10 Hearns - Robinson 6, Hearns 4.
Duran TKO7 Forrest, Forrest MD12 Duran - Duran 4, Forrest 5.
Trinidad MD12 Quartey, Trinidad UD12 Quartey - Trinidad 6, Quartey 1.

Trinidad TKO4 Forrest, Trinidad SD12 Forrest - Trinidad 10, Forrest - 5.
Robinson UD12 Duran, Robinson KO6 Duran - Robinson 10, Duran 4.
Hearns TKO7 Thurman, Hearns UD12 Thurman - Hearns 8, Thurman 0.
Mayweather UD12 Quartey, Mayweather UD12 Quartey - Mayweather 10, Quartey - 1.

Robinson UD12 Quartey, Robinson TKO8 Quartey - Robinson 14, Quartey 1.
Thurman UD12 Duran, Duran UD12 Thurman - Thurman - 2, Duran 6.
Trinidad Draw12 Mayweather, Mayweather UD12 Trinidad - Trinidad 11, Mayweather 13.
Hearns TKO6 Forrest, Hearns KO2 Forrest - Hearns 12, Forrest 5.

Hearns TKO4 Mayweather, Hearns UD12 Mayweather - Hearns 16, Mayweather 13.
Trinidad UD12 Thurman, Thurman MD12 Trinidad - Trinidad 13, Thurman 4.
Quartey SD12 Duran, Duran UD12 Quartey - Duran 8, Quartey 3.
Robinson TKO5 Forrest, Robinson TKO4 Forrest - Robinson 18, Forrest 5.

Quartey SD12 Thurman, Thurman UD12 Quartey - Quartey 5, Thurman 6.
Hearns KO2 Duran, Hearns TKO5 Duran - Hearns 20, Duran 8.
Robinson TKO12 Trinidad, Robinson KO7 Trinidad - Robinson 22, Trinidad 13.
Forrest SD12 Mayweather, Mayweather MD12 Forrest - Mayweather 15, Forrest 7.

Robinson TKO6 Mayweather, Robinson UD12 Mayweather
Trinidad UD12 Duran, Duran MD12 Trinidad
Hearns TKO7 Quartey, Hearns UD12 Quartey
Thurman SD12 Forrest, Forrest UD12 Thurman

Final Standings:
1. Robinson 26 points
2. Hearns 24 points
3. Trinidad 15 points
3. Mayweather 15 points
5. Duran 10 points
6. Forrest 9 points
7. Thurman 8 points
8. Quartey 5 points

:TU: great. like it

Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 15:20
by bnovelist
Exactly! That's why I threw Bazooka Quartey in the mix he has the best jab out of this entire crop! His jab could trouble anyone! Thurman would

lose on points to Quartey that jab would be working overtime timing Thurman's in & out style. Quartey would also beat Forrest on points the only

knock on Quartey's game is that he fades and gasses in the championship rounds!

Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 15:38
by candyslim
I'd go for Robinson but what happened to Leonard on this list?

Casting my mind back to 1980 or thereabouts there really was a tournament of great and near great welterweights: We can look back with the benefit of hindsight but back then it was anyone's guess who was going to emerge as number one from Jose "Pipino" Cuevas, Roberto Duran, Carlos Palomino, Thomas Hearns. "Sugar" Ray Leonard, Wilfred Benitez ... feel like I forgot someone. The depth of talent was truly astounding.

Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 17:09
by Luckybattles
A lot of depth in 90's too. Buddy mcgirt, meldrick Taylor, Fernando Vargas. I don't think Thurman measures up to any of that

Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 21:17
by Jip
-thurman would have mayor problems against athleticsm, such as floyd or sugar, they would outmove, outsmart, outslick thurman.

-quartey is b level compared to the other guys.

-duran to small, he simply aint a welterweight, he would have so much trouble with guys who have middleweight kind of physic come fight night like tito or heanrs.

-forrest was a powerful puncher with good stamina, tito and hearns are more powerful with even better stamina.

thurman, quartay, duran and forrest are the 4 worst out of the 8 mentioned.

-tito is a power house, he gets knocked down, but always come back stronger and has endless stamina and is always able to knock anybody out, but oscar showed that he hates somebody with excellent footwork, defensive notion and high technique, so a match up with floyd and sugar would be interresting. but on the other hand floyd at welterweight had mayor problems against maidana and ducked tall prime boxer like margarito and paul w. well prime tito at ww is a bigger problem than those guys :OhYes:

-hearns like tito is an atg puncher, tall, strong

-floyd would outsmart most opponents, but would find it hard to breath and take a break against high volume punchers withpower such as heanrs or tito, but on his a game he can do well. i still see him losing against both

-sugar is the best. he can knock you out, he can outsmart you, he can do everything, he aint called goat for no reason

1. sugar
2. tito
3. hearns
4. mayweather
5. thurman
6. forrest
7. duran
8. quartey

Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 03:46
by Luckybattles
You joking. Did you see Duran vs Barkley. That fight was like at light heavy and Barkley wa 100x the fighter Thurman is.

Re: Welterweight Legends Tournament:Hearns/Trinidad/Mayweather/Thurman/Quartey/Forrest/Ray Robinson/Duran

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 05:48
by candyslim
Jip wrote:
-sugar is the best. he can knock you out, he can outsmart you, he can do everything, he aint called goat for no reason
A mate of mine wasn't called goat for no reason either. There again he had a tendency to be more than a little ... er ... "careless" with his head :D