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Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 23 Mar 2017, 12:36
by punchoutsb
Enlightened-One wrote: Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs) weighed 170 pounds on HBO’s unofficial scale Saturday night. Brooklyn’s Jacobs (32-2, 29 KOs) wouldn’t allow HBO to weigh him Saturday night, but said following his unanimous-decision defeat to Golovkin that he was “probably about 175” pounds when their 12-round battle began at Madison Square Garden.
Jacobs sure looked like more than 175, and him saying "probably about 175" leads me to believe he was substantially more.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 23 Mar 2017, 12:37
by apollo creed
I think Jacobs was around 180, he's a big dude and he used this advantaged against GGG.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 19:08
by jezzamundo
Niko1209 wrote:Golovkin had 170 Pounds and Jacobs 194 Pounds , dont know about the PPV Numbers
That Jacobs number is really out there and seems highly improbable to me. I assume you have no evidence?

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 19:10
by boxing_rocks
I would believe in 184, but 194 is clearly off.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:53
by lefty
Loeffler has said that the PPV did about 170k PPV buys. Not the best.

http://www.BS.com/loeffler-con ... ys--114934

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 23:21
by punchoutsb
boxing_rocks wrote:I would believe in 184, but 194 is clearly off.
I've never heard of a 34 pound rehydration. I know quite a few guys who could do 18-20, I myself did 15. I only know two guys who did over 20 and both were very big and looked like death at the weigh ins. I'd imagine Jacobs was ~180-182.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 05:42
by Enlightened-One
IT wrote:Loeffler has said that the PPV did about 170k PPV buys. Not the best.

http://www.BS.com/loeffler-con ... ys--114934
That's a lower figure than what I had originally expected. And I was even mocked by the forum for guessing an overly pessimistic number. So those guys must be really shocked by the poor commercial performance of a fight card containing two of the very best PPV fighters on the planet.

If Chavez Jr-Canelo doesn't exceed 500K PPV buys, then the downward trend of PPV boxing events is affecting the entire sport, regardless the combatants being televised, but if it surpasses that figure, then it proves beyond a shadow of doubt that Alvarez is massively more popular than Golovkin.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 07:52
by caldo2025
punchoutsb wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:I would believe in 184, but 194 is clearly off.
I've never heard of a 34 pound rehydration. I know quite a few guys who could do 18-20, I myself did 15. I only know two guys who did over 20 and both were very big and looked like death at the weigh ins. I'd imagine Jacobs was ~180-182.
I used to rehydrate from 130 to 157 the next day when I wrestled in college. 34 pounds is clearly possible especially if you are trying to use your weight gain as a weapon. I did without help from a nutritionist. I think that it's clearly possible that Jacobs had a 20 plus pound advantage on fight night. Significant.

Did you see how Jacobs collapsed at the end of the fight? That's what happens with rapid rehydration weight gain. It saps you late in the event.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 12:50
by Mexi-Box
GGG: 170; Jacobs: 180

PPV 200K

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 14:00
by lefty
Mexi-Box wrote:GGG: 170; Jacobs: 180

PPV 200K
The PPV numbers have been disclosed as 170k.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 15:30
by ValMar
ValMar wrote:
apollo creed wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: I don't believe that information has been announced yet, but if I was to hazard a guess: Golovkin = 175lbs; Jacobs = 178lbs; and PPV buys = 180K.
Yeah I also think these may be close to the real ones. :TU:
Golovkin = 172 lbs, Jacobs =179 lbs, PPV buys = 170K....
Not so bad....

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 19:57
by punchoutsb
caldo2025 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:I would believe in 184, but 194 is clearly off.
I've never heard of a 34 pound rehydration. I know quite a few guys who could do 18-20, I myself did 15. I only know two guys who did over 20 and both were very big and looked like death at the weigh ins. I'd imagine Jacobs was ~180-182.
I used to rehydrate from 130 to 157 the next day when I wrestled in college. 34 pounds is clearly possible especially if you are trying to use your weight gain as a weapon. I did without help from a nutritionist. I think that it's clearly possible that Jacobs had a 20 plus pound advantage on fight night. Significant.

Did you see how Jacobs collapsed at the end of the fight? That's what happens with rapid rehydration weight gain. It saps you late in the event.
194 weight would have put him at about 22% re-hydration and he didn't look bad enough at the weigh in for that, at least in my opinion. I've never heard of someone under 185 putting on 30+ pounds rehydrating.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 26 Mar 2017, 08:47
by caldo2025
punchoutsb wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
I've never heard of a 34 pound rehydration. I know quite a few guys who could do 18-20, I myself did 15. I only know two guys who did over 20 and both were very big and looked like death at the weigh ins. I'd imagine Jacobs was ~180-182.
I used to rehydrate from 130 to 157 the next day when I wrestled in college. 34 pounds is clearly possible especially if you are trying to use your weight gain as a weapon. I did without help from a nutritionist. I think that it's clearly possible that Jacobs had a 20 plus pound advantage on fight night. Significant.

Did you see how Jacobs collapsed at the end of the fight? That's what happens with rapid rehydration weight gain. It saps you late in the event.
194 weight would have put him at about 22% re-hydration and he didn't look bad enough at the weigh in for that, at least in my opinion. I've never heard of someone under 185 putting on 30+ pounds rehydrating.
It's all relative and it's mostly water weight. Canelo is another one that abuses the rehydration process. Against Khan, he was easily 180 lbs in the ring that night.

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 26 Mar 2017, 08:52
by Enlightened-One
Niko1209 wrote:Golovkin had 170 Pounds and Jacobs 194 Pounds , dont know about the PPV Numbers
Are you really suggesting that Danny Jacobs reghydrated to a much heavier weight against Golovkin than Sergey Kovalev typically rehydrates to for his light heavyweight title fights?

Here are some examples of Kovalev’s rehydration weight against the following opponents:
• Mohammedi = 183.5lbs
• Pascal I = 189lbs
• Hopkins = 188lbs
• Agnew = 187lbs
• Sillakh = 185lbs

Re: The weights of both fighters (GGG and Jacobs) on fight night and the PPV numbers ??

Posted: 26 Mar 2017, 13:30
by punchoutsb
caldo2025 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
I used to rehydrate from 130 to 157 the next day when I wrestled in college. 34 pounds is clearly possible especially if you are trying to use your weight gain as a weapon. I did without help from a nutritionist. I think that it's clearly possible that Jacobs had a 20 plus pound advantage on fight night. Significant.

Did you see how Jacobs collapsed at the end of the fight? That's what happens with rapid rehydration weight gain. It saps you late in the event.
194 weight would have put him at about 22% re-hydration and he didn't look bad enough at the weigh in for that, at least in my opinion. I've never heard of someone under 185 putting on 30+ pounds rehydrating.
It's all relative and it's mostly water weight. Canelo is another one that abuses the rehydration process. Against Khan, he was easily 180 lbs in the ring that night.
I'm aware of all of that, I'm saying 22% bodyweight rehydration is beyond extreme and one would think being so close to death would have manifested itself more at the weigh in and in his performance. That being said, of course it could be possible. Humans constantly push boundaries on what is and isn't supposedly possible.