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I've got a feeling Brook is going to make Spence look very silly, I reckon he will school him.

But my predictions haven't been that accurate of late, so Spence will probably KO Brook within 3

Switch hitter wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:
After the back hand....

I'm not sure what you're saying mate, are you saying Spence is one-handed and Brook isn't, or not?

Not one handed but must of his work is a stright left , left hook or left uppercut. He does thrown a good right hooks to the body but it comes after a left. Brook punches more with both hands than Spence

southpaw in 'uses his left hand a lot' shocker?

even if you're right i think it's a moot point, i don't think (if true) that Spence supposedly working everything off the back hand is some kind of gamechanging technical flaw, I think ability and strength (which I think Spence has marginally more of both) are the deciding factors

anyway, we'll see how two-handed Brook is against a southpaw, I expect you'll see him working off a lead right hand a lot, then you can criticise him for it, too

Counter-puncher wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:
I'm not sure what you're saying mate, are you saying Spence is one-handed and Brook isn't, or not?

Not one handed but must of his work is a stright left , left hook or left uppercut. He does thrown a good right hooks to the body but it comes after a left. Brook punches more with both hands than Spence

southpaw in 'uses his left hand a lot' shocker?

even if you're right i think it's a moot point, i don't think (if true) that Spence supposedly working everything off the back hand is some kind of gamechanging technical flaw, I think ability and strength (which I think Spence has marginally more of both) are the deciding factors

anyway, we'll see how two-handed Brook is against a southpaw, I expect you'll see him working off a lead right hand a lot, then you can criticise him for it, too

Not criticising at all......just a point of view if that's OK with you

Switch hitter wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:
Not one handed but must of his work is a stright left , left hook or left uppercut. He does thrown a good right hooks to the body but it comes after a left. Brook punches more with both hands than Spence

southpaw in 'uses his left hand a lot' shocker?

even if you're right i think it's a moot point, i don't think (if true) that Spence supposedly working everything off the back hand is some kind of gamechanging technical flaw, I think ability and strength (which I think Spence has marginally more of both) are the deciding factors

anyway, we'll see how two-handed Brook is against a southpaw, I expect you'll see him working off a lead right hand a lot, then you can criticise him for it, too

Not criticising at all......just a point of view if that's OK with you

you're saying its an aspect of Spence's game thats weak, its a criticism. of course you're allowed to do that, I just think you're off thats all

One of the main fights I'm looking forward to. I just hope Brook can get the weight right and not suffer from his previous bulking.

Man much respek to Brook fighting TWO Boogeymans that nobody wanted to ever face Back 2 Back! Damn Kell Brook is very brave!

Whoever said Spence thinks he is in for a cakewalk is full of shitt. He knows, and has said this fight won't be easy. Brook is a good boxer, but it is obvious he did everything he could to find a way out. After agreeing to fight they take another 6 weeks to officially announce it? Is there finally a real date set for this fight?
Fighting GGG for a big payday was a no brainer, and a business move. No lose situation. I wish he could have at least made it to the half way point, but didn't. I look forward to see how Spence handles a big punch from Brook. I expect Brook to get on his bike after tasting Spence's power and go to the jab and grab. Still two months away....plenty of time for Brook to find an excuse not to fight, like the Bradley, Alexander, Rios, Chaves fights

Brook look beat up.
Right there and then Spence would have kicked his ass on the spot.

I don't think Porter or GGG fights give any clue as to how this fight goes. Porter is tough but roughly 4" inches shorter then Spence and right handed. Spence is the same height as GGG but is right handed and maybe threw one body shot in the Kell Brook fight. Spence commits the the body like no other young fighter out there and he is as big or bigger then Brook. #mandown

fightseer wrote:I don't think Porter or GGG fights give any clue as to how this fight goes. Porter is tough but roughly 4" inches shorter then Spence and right handed. Spence is the same height as GGG but is right handed and maybe threw one body shot in the Kell Brook fight. Spence commits the the body like no other young fighter out there and he is as big or bigger then Brook. #mandown

If you re-watch the 4th and 5th rounds, GGG steps up his body attack that led to Brook's very low punch output especially in the 5th. If GGG would have started that earlier, the towel would have came in earlier. You are right though, Spence knows very well the value of a solid body attack. I think GGG was head hunting early because he underestimated Brook, and didn't take him seriously.

Badhusker wrote:Whoever said Spence thinks he is in for a cakewalk is full of shitt. He knows, and has said this fight won't be easy. Brook is a good boxer, but it is obvious he did everything he could to find a way out. After agreeing to fight they take another 6 weeks to officially announce it? Is there finally a real date set for this fight?
Fighting GGG for a big payday was a no brainer, and a business move. No lose situation. I wish he could have at least made it to the half way point, but didn't. I look forward to see how Spence handles a big punch from Brook. I expect Brook to get on his bike after tasting Spence's power and go to the jab and grab. Still two months away....plenty of time for Brook to find an excuse not to fight, like the Bradley, Alexander, Rios, Chaves fights

Load of rubbish this here

Anyone who says the ggg fight was no lose situation doesn't know boxing. The power that guy has he can shorten careers. There was risk involved. Look at amir Khan vs canelo, getting sparked like that shortens careers at the top level. It was a calculated gamble that didn't pay off.

The reality is for most of brooks career he has been the avoided man. He wasn't a name, didn't generate the interest, but his talent and pedigree made it high risk low reward. Even when he won't he belt from porter. Nobodies calling him out. Ggg fight raised his profile and people want to know a bit more now. Full credit to spence for taking it and going to england

You notice how Spence pauses when Brook tells him "You're Going To Get Hurt"?

Badhusker wrote:

fightseer wrote:I don't think Porter or GGG fights give any clue as to how this fight goes. Porter is tough but roughly 4" inches shorter then Spence and right handed. Spence is the same height as GGG but is right handed and maybe threw one body shot in the Kell Brook fight. Spence commits the the body like no other young fighter out there and he is as big or bigger then Brook. #mandown

If you re-watch the 4th and 5th rounds, GGG steps up his body attack that led to Brook's very low punch output especially in the 5th. If GGG would have started that earlier, the towel would have came in earlier. You are right though, Spence knows very well the value of a solid body attack. I think GGG was head hunting early because he underestimated Brook, and didn't take him seriously.

I think brooks impaired vision contributed to his drop and ggg increase...

Switch hitter wrote:If Brook does the weight right which I believe he will ....he beats Spence. A lot of hype is around Spence and to be honest I don't really get it....yeah he's a talented kid but hasn't boxed anybody to suggest all the hype. Everything he does seems to come of the back hand where Brook has good variety with both hands and hasn't face anybody who has a slight punch on them.

I disagree. He throws wicked right hooks to the body. Watch his fight with Algieri in particular in that regard. I also have a feeling that he's right handed but fights as a southpaw. Looking at his head to head with Brook, he was wearing his watch on his left wrist which is something you tend to do when you're right handed. That's just a guess though.

Switch hitter wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:
After the back hand....

I'm not sure what you're saying mate, are you saying Spence is one-handed and Brook isn't, or not?

Not one handed but must of his work is a stright left , left hook or left uppercut. He does thrown a good right hooks to the body but it comes after a left. Brook punches more with both hands than Spence

A lot of fighters throw the hook after the left or right cross/hook. It's jab-cross-hook. It's a pretty common combination sequence.

One thing that is obvious however is that Spence is going to get no credit for beating Brook. It's going to be "well Brook was weight drained". Brook and his camp are pretty good at creating excuses. With Golovkin it was well he's not a natural welterweight and now it will be, he's too big for welterweight! Shocker.

IT wrote:I also have a feeling that he's right handed but fights as a southpaw.

Something about the way he throws punches makes me think that too. Victor Ortiz, Ryan Rhodes, Juanma Lopez Lomachenko, among some of the southpaws I know are right handed, Pauli Ayala one I suspect, they all throw the right hook and left hand somehow a bit differently than a natural left hander (I suspect at least partly because heir weight is more on their front foot/over the front hip), they push the left a little bit it doesn't have the explosion through the shoulder a lefty would have.

Book is a very good spoiler.
Spence is a great fighter.

Big difference.

RandomUsername wrote:Exciting fight really. Errol Spence comes across as a little scared kid for that staredown and it also doesnt look as if he is any bigger than Kell Brook and then you have to consider who turned away. It wasnt Kell, Errol started poo and then he turned away and smiled at the camera. And he's supposed to be this great boxer. Guy didnt even manage to pick up a medal at the olympics

You guys think way too much about this staring nonsense.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Book is a very good spoiler.
Spence is a great fighter.

Big difference.

Brook is not a spoiler. He's an attacking fighter

Spence is not a great fighter. He's an unproven prospect

I have to say, while Spence appears to be quite a good fighter, it is funny how across various forums many of the people who are massively hyping him will vehemently go after GGG for being ranked beyond his resume. I wonder what that's about..

Spence's best wins are over Algeiri, Bundu, and van Heerden. He looks good, but this is a massive step up for him and I'm excited to see how he performs. My hunch is that he comes through with a win...

The reason I like Spence, and think he will stop Brook, is his great balance, great body work, great athletic ability, great combinations, and great power in both hands. Above all, the kid is confident yet still humble and is very hungry. Maybe I shouldn't say great yet, but when you have a lot of top trainers and promoters raving about him, they must see something most casual fans do not.
He does have a lot to learn still, but Jermell Charlo says no one works harder than Errol Spence, and he has sparred with him several times. DeLahoya says he is better than Floyd, and will destroy Brook. Roach said he is an incredible talent. Porter said he made Broner cry in sparring.

Doesn't have a great resume yet, but has a common opponent with Thurman, Khan, and Pacquiao. He outperformed all three. Time will tell, but he seems like he has the goods to match his hype.

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Book is a very good spoiler.
Spence is a great fighter.

Big difference.

Brook is not a spoiler. He's an attacking fighter

Spence is not a great fighter. He's an unproven prospect

Brook is a spoiler. Spence is the goods.
There has been significant buzz behind him from boxing insiders.
Similar to how people feared Crawford before he was proven.

But they are fighting, so all opinions will be tested.

I might be in for another Dirrell/Degale siutation,
but I think Spence is closer to his prime than Dirrell was.

Spence is just much better than carry a purse Dirrell ever was. The degale fight was the best of Andre's career. He actually showed heart and balls.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Book is a very good spoiler.
Spence is a great fighter.

Big difference.

Brook is not a spoiler. He's an attacking fighter

Spence is not a great fighter. He's an unproven prospect

Brook is a spoiler. Spence is the goods.
There has been significant buzz behind him from boxing insiders.
Similar to how people feared Crawford before he was proven.

But they are fighting, so all opinions will be tested.

I might be in for another Dirrell/Degale siutation,
but I think Spence is closer to his prime than Dirrell was.

Brook isn't a spoiler he's and attacking fighter. I'll assume you're an American whose only seen the porter fight? Where brook landed the quality shots but tied porter up when he had too?

Spence may be the goods, or he may not. He's unproven. It fair to say the Americans have created a "significant buzz" about a lot of fighters over the years. Some go on, some don't