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Re: Usyk

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 09:43
by Oiky
Big usyk will deffo move up :TU:

Re: Usyk

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 14:12
by asdfjkl
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Deserter wrote: I think it's fair to say he's already more than a very good cruiserweight!
Probably the best in this era, bit the size and weightdifference between cruiserweight top and the heavyweight top is to big.
Tyrone Spong's fukked then :doh:
Never expected Tyrone to achieve rank 1, he got exactly the same sizes as Povetkin, a match between them could be exiting, Povetkin is just far more experienced in boxing, Tyrone has been in the Chagaev team, till Chagaev retired.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 19:37
by Deserter
asdfjkl wrote:
Deserter wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Osyk ain't big enough for heavyweight, but he can be a very good cruiserweight
I think it's fair to say he's already more than a very good cruiserweight!
Probably the best in this era, bit the size and weightdifference between cruiserweight top and the heavyweight top is to big.
I'm not disputing that, just took issue with the claim that he's simply a very good cruiserweight. Depending on how he opts to progress his career, he's got the potential to be the best cruiserweight since Holyfield.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 21:42
by asdfjkl
Deserter wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Deserter wrote: I think it's fair to say he's already more than a very good cruiserweight!
Probably the best in this era, bit the size and weightdifference between cruiserweight top and the heavyweight top is to big.
I'm not disputing that, just took issue with the claim that he's simply a very good cruiserweight. Depending on how he opts to progress his career, he's got the potential to be the best cruiserweight since Holyfield.
He probably already is and I don't see anyone getting close at this moment

Re: Usyk

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:37
by Deserter
:TU:
asdfjkl wrote:
Deserter wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Probably the best in this era, bit the size and weightdifference between cruiserweight top and the heavyweight top is to big.
I'm not disputing that, just took issue with the claim that he's simply a very good cruiserweight. Depending on how he opts to progress his career, he's got the potential to be the best cruiserweight since Holyfield.
He probably already is and I don't see anyone getting close at this moment
:TU:

Re: Usyk

Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 09:22
by boxingknockout
Usyk already beat big Joe Joyce handily in the WSB.

He looked a lot smaller though

Re: Usyk

Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 09:43
by Crease
EdwinValero wrote:Does anyone think Usyk will step up to heavyweight in the future?

He is a big cruiser and I'd love to see him throw a spanner in the works of a relatively poor HW division, although at 30 he's no spring chicken.
Most of the successful Cruisers move up to Heavyweight because of the lure of the big money. Johnny Nelson does speak very highly of Usyk.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 20:04
by crusader
boxingknockout wrote:Usyk already beat big Joe Joyce handily in the WSB.

He looked a lot smaller though
Yep, he gave him quite the boxing lesson, though I think Joyce improved after that. He also unanimously beat Magomed Medzhidov shortly before the latter won his second consecutive SHW world championship.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 01 Apr 2017, 03:02
by Autobarn
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Deserter wrote: I think it's fair to say he's already more than a very good cruiserweight!
Probably the best in this era, bit the size and weightdifference between cruiserweight top and the heavyweight top is to big.
Tyrone Spong's fukked then :doh:
Spong the Muay Thai champ?

Re: Usyk

Posted: 01 Apr 2017, 06:22
by Stuarty
Autobarn wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Probably the best in this era, bit the size and weightdifference between cruiserweight top and the heavyweight top is to big.
Tyrone Spong's fukked then :doh:
Spong the Muay Thai champ?
I wouldn't even know who the dude is if it wasn't for that crazy Dutch fella!

Re: Usyk

Posted: 01 Apr 2017, 06:30
by Andrew
All this talk of him movin to heavyweight. I really want him to clear up at cruiser as there are some excellent fights there.

Also people are willing to travel. If Breidis picks up the WBC belt he will fight all over the place with it.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 01 Apr 2017, 14:05
by asdfjkl
Stuarty30 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Tyrone Spong's fukked then :doh:
Spong the Muay Thai champ?
I wouldn't even know who the dude is if it wasn't for that crazy Dutch fella!
The 10 times kickboxing champion of the world in 6 different weightclasses, including heavyweight, over his carreer called Tyrone Spong yes.
He recently moved to boxing and currently had 6 fights, 6 wins, 6 early KO's. Sadly the boxing world realises and simply refuse to challenge him.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 03 Apr 2017, 09:42
by PredatorHayds
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Autobarn wrote: Spong the Muay Thai champ?
I wouldn't even know who the dude is if it wasn't for that crazy Dutch fella!
The 10 times kickboxing champion of the world in 6 different weightclasses, including heavyweight, over his carreer called Tyrone Spong yes.
He recently moved to boxing and currently had 6 fights, 6 wins, 6 early KO's. Sadly the boxing world realises and simply refuse to challenge him.
I saw him in Russia last year. Not impressed. Very robotic and has zero gears to go through.
Sorry to disappoint you but he won't get to the world stage boxing wise.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 03 Apr 2017, 11:23
by boxingknockout
asdfjkl wrote:Osyk ain't big enough for heavyweight, but he can be a very good cruiserweight
They prob said that about Holyfield too. With modern supplements and nutrition it's not impossible.

Re: Usyk

Posted: 03 Apr 2017, 13:14
by Deserter
boxingknockout wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Osyk ain't big enough for heavyweight, but he can be a very good cruiserweight
They prob said that about Holyfield too. With modern supplements and nutrition it's not impossible.
Well Holyfield certainly enjoyed a 'supplement' or two, that's for sure...

Re: Usyk

Posted: 03 Apr 2017, 14:40
by asdfjkl
Deserter wrote:
boxingknockout wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Osyk ain't big enough for heavyweight, but he can be a very good cruiserweight
They prob said that about Holyfield too. With modern supplements and nutrition it's not impossible.
Well Holyfield certainly enjoyed a 'supplement' or two, that's for sure...
The champions back then had a weight of 220 pounds, those of nowadays 245 ish.