Golovkin's Trainer: Spence is Not Ready, Brook Will Beat Him

[Ossyrules]

They're different ages. The older you get the harder the cut.you think brook will be a welter in 4 years? I guarantee you he'll be a middle then.

I doubt he'll be a welter in the next 2 years mate. But he was a welter before he fought GGG and he's doing welter after GGG. So all that matters really is how big they are around the time they fought.

GGG is a career middleweight. If he could have fought at welter I'm sure he would have, people normally fight at the lowest weight within reason. Brook is a career welter who I expect to move on 154, possibly after the spence fight tbh. At the time brook fought ggg, he was a welter bulking up, the smaller guy naturally

Brook won't be a Welter five minutes after this fight. GGG doesn't cut a lot of weight. There is nothing natural about losing 30 pounds in a month off a rippled frame. The difference is Brook isn't used to fighting the best Middleweight in the world.

I think it's widely expected that he'll move to light middle soon. There was doubt that he would come back to welter but he has. I agree brook isn't used to fighting the best middle in the world... but that's not the point I was originally going against we've digressed. It's that he isn't naturally as big as ggg. Not when they fought. Regardless of what they weighed in at

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't agree that he is naturally smaller than ggg. The high percentage of a year he is, if anything, slightly larger.

[Ossyrules]

I don't agree that he is naturally smaller than ggg. The high percentage of a year he is, if anything, slightly larger.

Doesn't matter what size his is out the ring? I'll admit GGG was hardly Hopkins size when trying to make 160 but GGG isn't a welter and Brook is. That's the fighting weights of these guys. I don't really see how this is in disputed.

Agree to disagree anyway I think we've done this point over well

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't agree that he is naturally smaller than ggg. The high percentage of a year he is, if anything, slightly larger.

Doesn't matter what size his is out the ring? I'll admit GGG was hardly Hopkins size when trying to make 160 but GGG isn't a welter and Brook is. That's the fighting weights of these guys. I don't really see how this is in disputed.

Agree to disagree anyway I think we've done this point over well

I'll agree that you're wrong.

[Ossyrules]

I don't agree that he is naturally smaller than ggg. The high percentage of a year he is, if anything, slightly larger.

Doesn't matter what size his is out the ring? I'll admit GGG was hardly Hopkins size when trying to make 160 but GGG isn't a welter and Brook is. That's the fighting weights of these guys. I don't really see how this is in disputed.

Agree to disagree anyway I think we've done this point over well

I'll agree that you're wrong.

Fair enough you're right! GGG is really a welter everyone he just chooses to fight at middle! Whoops there's that sarcasm that got me into trouble in the first place!

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Doesn't matter what size his is out the ring? I'll admit GGG was hardly Hopkins size when trying to make 160 but GGG isn't a welter and Brook is. That's the fighting weights of these guys. I don't really see how this is in disputed.

Agree to disagree anyway I think we've done this point over well

I'll agree that you're wrong.

Fair enough you're right! GGG is really a welter everyone he just chooses to fight at middle! Whoops there's that sarcasm that got me into trouble in the first place!

You clearly don't understand weight cutting. There isn't a natural thing about Kell brook at welter.

[Ossyrules]

I'll agree that you're wrong.

Fair enough you're right! GGG is really a welter everyone he just chooses to fight at middle! Whoops there's that sarcasm that got me into trouble in the first place!

You clearly don't understand weight cutting. There isn't a natural thing about Kell brook at welter.

There's a thing about boxing called weight classes. Boxers usually fight at there lowest weight within reason to gain as many physical advantages as they can. Brooks is 147. Was before GGG and he's doing it after.

GGGs trainer says his man can do 154, but he campaigns at 160. It's fair to say he's not regarded as a big middleweight, but those are the weights he can do.

Now unless you have some inside knowledge GGG can do 147, which would make him brooks equal, then that makes him naturally bigger than Kell Brook. Brook hits 147 year after year. Whether you call it unnatural that he does it, the fact is he does it. There is doubt about what he'll be like at the weight this fight having bulked for the GGG fight, but he'll hit the weight of that I have no doubt.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

[ClivePatrickLyons]

GGG trainer should be worried about his man after his last ring appearance and Brook who has he beat that was considered top echelon in the Welterweight division i'll tell you................NO-ONE Spence Jr will win a hard fought Dec

[Ossyrules]

GGG trainer should be worried about his man after his last ring appearance and Brook who has he beat that was considered top echelon in the Welterweight division i'll tell you................NO-ONE Spence Jr will win a hard fought Dec

Porter away from Home is a good win. Beating the champ in his back yard

[ClivePatrickLyons]

GGG trainer should be worried about his man after his last ring appearance and Brook who has he beat that was considered top echelon in the Welterweight division i'll tell you................NO-ONE Spence Jr will win a hard fought Dec

Porter away from Home is a good win. Beating the champ in his back yard

Porter aint top echelon and is he the only one you can come up with Brooks had more then enough fight's and been around long enough to fight only who Porter and Challenge GGG at Middleweight in a fight they knew could only really hurt their future money making potential if Brook got blown away in one wich he didn't but his face was getting smashed up and it was probably his best/bravest performance Spence Jr isn't really that far off what type of opponent's they both have encountered that's crap like I said he should be worried about his fighter and his last performance

[Ossyrules]

GGG trainer should be worried about his man after his last ring appearance and Brook who has he beat that was considered top echelon in the Welterweight division i'll tell you................NO-ONE Spence Jr will win a hard fought Dec

Porter away from Home is a good win. Beating the champ in his back yard

Porter aint top echelon and is he the only one you can come up with Brooks had more then enough fight's and been around long enough to fight only who Porter and Challenge GGG at Middleweight in a fight they knew could only really hurt their future money making potential if Brook got blown away in one wich he didn't but his face was getting smashed up and it was probably his best/bravest performance Spence Jr isn't really that far off what type of opponent's they both have encountered that's crap like I said he should be worried about his fighter and his last performance

You'll never hear me champion Brooks cv is packed with fighters. At welter Porter is the only name to mention. I think that's a good win. Porter was good enough to win the belt. He's dominated Alexander, quite easily beat Broner, mauled Paulie, gave Thurman all he could handle that fight was really close they should rematch. Brook beating Porter is a good win, especially away from home and as the challenger.

Spence is number 1 challenger so obviously ready. Fought nobody yet but has been put in at this level much quicker than brook. Brook was held back too long but we'll see fight night if spence is ready

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Porter away from Home is a good win. Beating the champ in his back yard

Porter aint top echelon and is he the only one you can come up with Brooks had more then enough fight's and been around long enough to fight only who Porter and Challenge GGG at Middleweight in a fight they knew could only really hurt their future money making potential if Brook got blown away in one wich he didn't but his face was getting smashed up and it was probably his best/bravest performance Spence Jr isn't really that far off what type of opponent's they both have encountered that's crap like I said he should be worried about his fighter and his last performance

You'll never hear me champion Brooks cv is packed with fighters. At welter Porter is the only name to mention. I think that's a good win. Porter was good enough to win the belt. He's dominated Alexander, quite easily beat Broner, mauled Paulie, gave Thurman all he could handle that fight was really close they should rematch. Brook beating Porter is a good win, especially away from home and as the challenger.

Spence is number 1 challenger so obviously ready. Fought nobody yet but has been put in at this level much quicker than brook. Brook was held back too long but we'll see fight night if spence is ready

I agree Spence has not beat nobody yet and Brook is not far in front of Spence...Kells been feasting on some easy beats for yonks now that's all i'm saying but aye I reckon it will be a good fight and probably can go either way we will see how good Spence can swim in the deepish end

[lazboy]

Spence is a super smooth boxer pucher, he gives anyone problems. As for this fight, I'd say its 60 40 for spence because of that southpaw jab of his.

[EJA]

I think that a case can be made for Kell Brook being a better fighter than GGG. Kell is a welterweight and look at what he did against that middleweight, if not for the size difference then Kell would probably have outclassed GGG from the way that fight looked. Kell Brook P4P#1?

Brook was KOed in five rounds and ended up in the hospital.

[Thomastearns]

I think that a case can be made for Kell Brook being a better fighter than GGG. Kell is a welterweight and look at what he did against that middleweight, if not for the size difference then Kell would probably have outclassed GGG from the way that fight looked. Kell Brook P4P#1?

Brook was KOed in five rounds and ended up in the hospital.

Interesting argument, but the facts in this case are pretty brutal. The words fight and hospital don't sit well together. Neither do stitches and eye, and I should know! I'll never forget the doctors wise words - 'Get yours in first!'