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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 13:33
by Tanzio
I think he isn't, but he is getting close(r).

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 17:27
by Impractical Poster
He's certainly got the ability, but hasn't accomplished enough yet to nab the top spot. He'll be there within the next year or two, though.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:02
by Badhusker
Well, like the saying goes, you guys need to remember to tuck you chin, but that might be hard with Lomo's nuts on it. Remember GGG was considered unbeatable until he fought Jacobs. Just saying.... I hope Lomo doesn't take that long to fight an elite opponent.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:43
by crusader
You've got Wilder's balls, other people have Lomas's, it's all good :lol:

To be honest as a Golovkin fan, with just 9 fights I think Loma's best couple of wins arguably surpass GGG's, and if they don't they're at least around the same level.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:50
by punchoutsb
Badhusker wrote:Remember GGG was considered unbeatable until he fought Jacobs. Just saying....
GGG is still unbeaten. Just saying....

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 23:33
by armageto
Badhusker wrote: I hope Lomo doesn't take that long to fight an elite opponent.
Walters going in and Russell are both right there with Jacobs P4P.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 05:23
by greg
..not caring that much who is the one and only, I'd say it's a pleasure watching him box..I wish he had a harder punch though..

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 07:01
by Horse
punchoutsb wrote:GGG is still unbeaten. Just saying....
He certainly didn't look unbeatable, did he? Just saying...

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 20:36
by Badhusker
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:GGG is still unbeaten. Just saying....
He certainly didn't look unbeatable, did he? Just saying...

Thank you Horse. That was my point, which seems to strike a nerve with some people. When you step up to the next level, the competition may make you look not so invincible.....as we saw in GGG's case.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 23:17
by punchoutsb
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:GGG is still unbeaten. Just saying....
He certainly didn't look unbeatable, did he? Just saying...
I've never seen a fighter that looks unbeatable. A fighter has never existed that looks unbeatable every time out. GGG is still unbeaten whether fanboys on a forum thinks he looks unbeatable or not. Just saying....
Badhusker wrote:
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:GGG is still unbeaten. Just saying....
He certainly didn't look unbeatable, did he? Just saying...

Thank you Horse. That was my point, which seems to strike a nerve with some people. When you step up to the next level, the competition may make you look not so invincible.....as we saw in GGG's case.
I don't have Loma #1, I don't have GGG #1. That being said, is there a fighter currently active that fits your definition of "invincible" or "unbeatable" or whatever other un-achievable terms you label them? Did you drop Floyd from the #1 spot because he didn't shut out Maidana? I certainly didn't.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 02:35
by Freedom2013
Is Lomachenko The Best Pound-for-Pound Fighter in Boxing?

http://www.BS.com/lomachenko-b ... xmtvL.dpuf

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 07:18
by marvelous marv
No.

Because he looked good beating on limited Jason Sosa he suddenly gets elavated? We are not casual fans here.

Roman Gonzalez broke a compubox record for power punched landed in his last fight, but we'll ignore that because of some wacky judging lol.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 09:30
by boxing_rocks
marvelous marv wrote:No.

Because he looked good beating on limited Jason Sosa he suddenly gets elavated? We are not casual fans here.

Roman Gonzalez broke a compubox record for power punched landed in his last fight, but we'll ignore that because of some wacky judging lol.
Roman Gonzalez took significant beating in his last two fights. Barely anything was landed on Loma.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 09:50
by davie
I don't have a number 1 at present, haven't had for a while...and the recent results/performances of some of my favourites have further muddied the water.

Lomachenko looks the most skilled fighter on the planet, but skills alone don't dictate p4p no1.

He's certainly in the mix with some of the others mentioned

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 09:55
by Oiky
Loma is unbelievable

I'd have him as p4p number 1 at the minute

Gonzalez still an amazing fighter though :box:

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 17:02
by ThereByTheGrace
I think loma is going to struggle to get the fights to show everyone he is the best. He is p4p best imo!

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 20:04
by marvelous marv
boxing_rocks wrote:
marvelous marv wrote:No.

Because he looked good beating on limited Jason Sosa he suddenly gets elavated? We are not casual fans here.

Roman Gonzalez broke a compubox record for power punched landed in his last fight, but we'll ignore that because of some wacky judging lol.
Roman Gonzalez took significant beating in his last two fights. Barely anything was landed on Loma.
Roman is fighting a top 3 opponent four weight classes above where he won his first world title at 105.

That would be like Lomachenko dominating Crawford at 140. Not saying it can't happen but, do it first, then get the ranking.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 20:07
by crusader
Was the size difference between Sor and Roman really that much?

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 20:09
by boxing_rocks
crusader wrote:Was the size difference between Gonzalez and Roman really that much?
Roman jumped at least one weight class to high. It is not just size, but also strength.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 20:44
by Evander
The rankings have shifted dramatically with Frampton Santa Cruz, GGG Jacobs, Ward Kovalev 1 now 2, Thurman Garcia and Gonzalez losing it's all up in the air.
Lomachenko at best would be 7-9 P4P.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 20:59
by boxing_rocks
Evander wrote:The rankings have shifted dramatically with Frampton Santa Cruz, GGG Jacobs, Ward Kovalev 1 now 2, Thurman Garcia and Gonzalez losing it's all up in the air.
Lomachenko at best would be 7-9 P4P.
Frampton, Santa Cruz ??? What do they have to do with top p4p? Loma is clearly way above them, as well as above Thurman and Garcia.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 21:07
by Evander
boxing_rocks wrote:
Evander wrote:The rankings have shifted dramatically with Frampton Santa Cruz, GGG Jacobs, Ward Kovalev 1 now 2, Thurman Garcia and Gonzalez losing it's all up in the air.
Lomachenko at best would be 7-9 P4P.
Frampton, Santa Cruz ??? What do they have to do with top p4p? Loma is clearly way above them, as well as above Thurman and Garcia.
No he's not.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 21:37
by boxing_rocks
Frampton and LSC would be an easy work for Loma at 126, no doubt about that. He is also better than Thurman is literally every aspect of boxing.

Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 22:11
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:Frampton and LSC would be an easy work for Loma at 126, no doubt about that. He is also better than Thurman is literally every aspect of boxing.
Let him stick around 130 for a bit and we can find out.