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world ranked wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

world ranked wrote:
A glorified gym fighter doesn't fight on even level with a world champion. afraid and a boxer doesn't make sense together. You might not like him he's a world class fighter.

how is he world class? He beat a novice for a BS title, he's fought one world class fighter and he lost. He just makes a lot of noise calling out every fighter who is in the headlines for publicity, pair of jokers.

He fought on even terms with the guy you claim is world class pretty simple. He wasn't outclassed in the ring he's the same talent level of BJS. Pretty simple. Yeah all the bums he fought guess what he didn't struggle with those another sign of a world class guy what did BJS do in his last fight almost lost to those same level guys Eubank dominated but BJS is world class again but Eubank isn't.

if you watch the fight properly

you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting

madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:how is he world class? He beat a novice for a BS title, he's fought one world class fighter and he lost. He just makes a lot of noise calling out every fighter who is in the headlines for publicity, pair of jokers.

He fought on even terms with the guy you claim is world class pretty simple. He wasn't outclassed in the ring he's the same talent level of BJS. Pretty simple. Yeah all the bums he fought guess what he didn't struggle with those another sign of a world class guy what did BJS do in his last fight almost lost to those same level guys Eubank dominated but BJS is world class again but Eubank isn't.

if you watch the fight properly

you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting

madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level

Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:
He fought on even terms with the guy you claim is world class pretty simple. He wasn't outclassed in the ring he's the same talent level of BJS. Pretty simple. Yeah all the bums he fought guess what he didn't struggle with those another sign of a world class guy what did BJS do in his last fight almost lost to those same level guys Eubank dominated but BJS is world class again but Eubank isn't.

if you watch the fight properly

you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting

madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level

Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.

eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him

ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since

he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote: if you watch the fight properly

you will see many times jnr was made to look stupid, many times he was left wanting

madness you are suggesting eubank jnr is world level

Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.

eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him

ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since

he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet

You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:
Go look at any site that rank fighters and see where Eubank stands and tell me are all rankings wrong.

eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him

ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since

he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet

You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.

rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing

look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age

look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull

yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe

but he is still nowhere even close to being world class

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote: eubank has (and will) sh*t it when a world level fighter puts it to him

ok he fought bjs, a WL fighter, but nothing since

he is all talk, a deluded, misguided muppet

You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.

rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing

look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age

look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull

yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe

but he is still nowhere even close to being world class

So why is BJS world class.?

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:
You are correct on the talk part but the I only going off what he has done against he he's been in with. He's dominated everyone he suppose to which BJS hasn't even done. Not elite but a top ten guy which is world class is all I'm saying. Will he beat Golovkin probably not but I think he's on the level off the top ten guys and the rankings shows this.

rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing

look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age

look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull

yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe

but he is still nowhere even close to being world class

So why is BJS world class.?

because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote: rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing

look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age

look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull

yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe

but he is still nowhere even close to being world class

So why is BJS world class.?

because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

so not because who a guy beat. I guess Resume means nothing again I should you several examples of fighters who don't have any of that and was world class guys. You can not have those things and be a world class fighter. Resumes makes a world class guy. I see why you don't understand my point.

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:
So why is BJS world class.?

because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

so not because who a guy beat. I guess Resume means nothing again I should you several examples of fighters who don't have any of that and was world class guys. You can not have those things and be a world class fighter. Resumes makes a world class guy. I see why you don't understand my point.

records are for djs

bjs is world class

eubank isn't, simple

billyjoe would get a world class fight before jnr would, ggg or canelo could get credibility out of beating a billyjoe, but if they beat a eubank jnr it would be like bullying , swatting a fly

Eubank handled Blackwell far easier than BJS

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote: because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

so not because who a guy beat. I guess Resume means nothing again I should you several examples of fighters who don't have any of that and was world class guys. You can not have those things and be a world class fighter. Resumes makes a world class guy. I see why you don't understand my point.

records are for djs

bjs is world class

eubank isn't, simple

billyjoe would get a world class fight before jnr would, ggg or canelo could get credibility out of beating a billyjoe, but if they beat a eubank jnr it would be like bullying , swatting a fly

Nobody cares about BJS other than having a belt. BJS almost lost to a nobody. (really lost) but ok he lucky still have his belt. but he's the world class guy.

forcefraser wrote:Eubank handled Blackwell far easier than BJS

yet eubank jnr holds a ridicolous farce of a title, has stooped as low as calling out bellew on twitter

i know billyjoes social media run ain't great

but he is far more likely to get a sniff of anything world class compared to jnr

because billyjoe is capable of it and jnr ain't

and world ranked in reply to you, we will see where jnr ends up

won't be world class/elite

Oiky wrote:

forcefraser wrote:Eubank handled Blackwell far easier than BJS

yet eubank jnr holds a ridicolous farce of a title, has stooped as low as calling out bellew on twitter

i know billyjoes social media run ain't great

but he is far more likely to get a sniff of anything world class compared to jnr

because billyjoe is capable of it and jnr ain't

and world ranked in reply to you, we will see where jnr ends up

won't be world class/elite

top ten is world class to me. Elite is like P4P.

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote:

forcefraser wrote:Eubank handled Blackwell far easier than BJS

yet eubank jnr holds a ridicolous farce of a title, has stooped as low as calling out bellew on twitter

i know billyjoes social media run ain't great

but he is far more likely to get a sniff of anything world class compared to jnr

because billyjoe is capable of it and jnr ain't

and world ranked in reply to you, we will see where jnr ends up

won't be world class/elite

top ten is world class to me. Elite is like P4P.

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Oiky wrote: rankings don't mean much in this sad day and age for boxing

look at some of the so called "champions" in this day and age

look at some of the rubbish the WBA pull

yes you can only beat who's in front of you, yes he's dominated who he's been in with bar billyjoe

but he is still nowhere even close to being world class

So why is BJS world class.?

because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

Really? Are you related to BJS? You make him sound like the second coming of Ali...

I put him and Eubank Jr roughly on a par, if they fought again it would be another close affair and Jr may well shade it.

chinarich wrote:

Oiky wrote:

world ranked wrote:
So why is BJS world class.?

because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

Really? Are you related to BJS? You make him sound like the second coming of Ali...

I put him and Eubank Jr roughly on a par, if they fought again it would be another close affair and Jr may well shade it.

What is it about this place, soon as you mention a few skills about a fighter your "making him sound" like an atg from days gone by

Had all this sh*t a few days back with Tyson fury

Be easier on here to say every boxer is sh*t except Ali and the greats

Yeah it was a close fight billyjoe underestimated Eubank and still won, don't think a second fight would be close, only thing Jnr would shade is a stencil of himself

So eubank needs to stop the idle talk and step up? Be more like BJ's?

Saunders is decent - nothing spectacular. I think Eubank lost the fight more than Saunders won it so to speak. People saying they'd make Eubank favourite in a rematch; Eubank is the favourite for the rematch. Saunders has looked dismal and been badly inactive for a long time now as well.

For all Eubank acts the twat I think he beats Kessler.

They wouldn't be able to get the money to bring Kessler over.

The end

Oiky wrote:

chinarich wrote:

Oiky wrote: because of his timing, his ring generalship, his footwork, his speed, his movement, ok he gasses a bit, so what, one flaw amongst many great in ring skills he has that jnr will never ever have

Really? Are you related to BJS? You make him sound like the second coming of Ali...

I put him and Eubank Jr roughly on a par, if they fought again it would be another close affair and Jr may well shade it.

What is it about this place, soon as you mention a few skills about a fighter your "making him sound" like an atg from days gone by

Had all this sh*t a few days back with Tyson fury

Be easier on here to say every boxer is sh*t except Ali and the greats

Yeah it was a close fight billyjoe underestimated Eubank and still won, don't think a second fight would be close, only thing Jnr would shade is a stencil of himself

Well, one hates to be derivative but I simply thought you were over-egging the pudding with regards to Saunders' skills. Not that I'm calling him a pudding, of course...

I don't particularly rate either fighter in terms of elite level (they are both world level) but do give Eubank the edge should they rematch.

Anyway, the question was about Kessler who I don't think should be coming back, and I think Eubank beats him at this point. So would BJS, of course...

Eubank Jnrs issue isn't the level he can fight at imo, it's the out of the ring BS. The whole IBO farce, even moving to 168 (unless he can't make 160) when there's a massive challenge like ggg or Canelo at 160 doesn't make sense. Calling out x, y and z when he hasn't worked for the chance to fight them guys, a lot if out the ring shite.

But he is a good fighter. Slightly behind BJS by virtue of losing to him while Saunders also beat Andy Lee and won the wbo, so he's achieved more. Neither guys can really hold there heads high re making fights

Eubank jr is fringe world class at a push and that's a compliment considering who he has boxed. BJS is a world class operator in the ring but out of it (lifestyle wise) definitely not. The fight with Eubank jr was only as close as it was is because Saunders gasses badly in fights and Eubanks fitness is second to none. Skill wise they are light years apart. If Saunders lived the life he would beat Eubank 120-108 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

I thought eubank edged the first and would win a rematch fairly convincingly.

smiling assassin wrote:Eubank jr is fringe world class at a push and that's a compliment considering who he has boxed. BJS is a world class operator in the ring but out of it (lifestyle wise) definitely not. The fight with Eubank jr was only as close as it was is because Saunders gasses badly in fights and Eubanks fitness is second to none. Skill wise they are light years apart. If Saunders lived the life he would beat Eubank 120-108 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

This is a very sensible post

Eubank "edging" the first is likely to be the most hilarious thing I hear all week

But each to their own opinion

Ossyrules wrote:Eubank Jnrs issue isn't the level he can fight at imo, it's the out of the ring BS. The whole IBO farce, even moving to 168 (unless he can't make 160) when there's a massive challenge like ggg or Canelo at 160 doesn't make sense. Calling out x, y and z when he hasn't worked for the chance to fight them guys, a lot if out the ring shite.

But he is a good fighter. Slightly behind BJS by virtue of losing to him while Saunders also beat Andy Lee and won the wbo, so he's achieved more. Neither guys can really hold there heads high re making fights

If the out of the ring stuff works out as per their business plan, Eubank could conceivably end up making more money than the rest of them put together over the next 12 months. On paper, the idea is great, but the execution may end up being third rate, eg the laughable IBO belt, inferior opponents, and PPV broadcast technical issues meaning they have to give refunds etc. But the plan itself is sound and potentially very lucrative. The ITV PPV platform is potentially massive, and Eubank's unique selling point is his surname - very marketable to the domestic ITV audience in the UK. Of course, with the dad pulling the levers behind the scenes it might all go txts up but the potential is there to make a fortune.