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ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote: I haven't read this, to be honest. Anyway, at 135, he could be defeated by M. Garcia only, I can not see another competitive opponent. I agree that judges, refs, and promoters might diminish his chances at 135....

Are you confused by your own question? You have to weigh everything into it. I think there has been 1 ever? And you got 95% on a guy not even half way?

OK, I did not read the article about Lomachenko's intention to move up at 135 soon. And, I will take a risk to be boring, but, I really consider Lomachenko invincible at 130, and almost invincible at 135 (only potential exception - M. Garcia). I can not see Linares beat Loma.

So? He has 1 of those 8 titles. He wouldn't even have enough fights in the next two years to collect all of those belts. It seems like you're asking one question and answering another.

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

greg wrote:..I'm not sure how you guys come up with all these percentages

in actuality everyone but Crawford, indongo, ggg, bjs,, Joshua & wilder would be 0%.

SaadOffTheDeck, just imagine situation where Lomachenko stay at SFW. Would you, really, give Garcia 0% chance to become undisputed at LW ?
Who can defeat him (at 135) ? Nobody ! Simple, but true....

Lol, I give up.

Haymon has almost every major fighter at 154 other than Canello who is moving up. I could see a guy like Lubin eventually emerging even if he doesn't have a title yet. The biggest obstacle is politics.

Crawford has a great shot if Indongo keeps winning.

The Heavyweight picture will be clear in a few weeks. If Wlad wins and then retires it would set the division into chaos again.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Are you confused by your own question? You have to weigh everything into it. I think there has been 1 ever? And you got 95% on a guy not even half way?

OK, I did not read the article about Lomachenko's intention to move up at 135 soon. And, I will take a risk to be boring, but, I really consider Lomachenko invincible at 130, and almost invincible at 135 (only potential exception - M. Garcia). I can not see Linares beat Loma.

So? He has 1 of those 8 titles. He wouldn't even have enough fights in the next two years to collect all of those belts. It seems like you're asking one question and answering another.

I didn't tell Lomachenko would be the undisputed champion at SFW and LW in the same time......Once, again - if he stay at 130 he will be the undisputed (I will neglect dirty promoters' games, avoiding and corrupted judges/refs).....If he decide to move up, at 135, he could be the undisputed, for me, only dangerous rival is Mikey Garcia. I don't think it is complicated, it is almost obvious.

Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.

There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :

1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.

OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.

There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :

1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.

OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....

He's been chasing it for years!!!!! I know English isn't your first language but it's much more endearing to admit confusion than argue silliness.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seems as uncomplicated and obvious as ggg at 160.

There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :

1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.

OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....

He's been chasing it for years!!!!! I know English isn't your first language but it's much more endearing to admit confusion than argue silliness.

Of course, I am not a native English speaker, and, I am confused, from time to time. I admit that I was not so precise in this topic. But, be honest, please, and answer the question....Do you consider Lomachenko the best boxer at SFW, right now ?

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
There are only two ways in front of GGG (to be honest, I am not convinced he is healthy right now) :

1. Face BJS and likely become the undisputed, and lose the pay-day of his life.
2. Wait for Canelo, earn the "big money" and probably lose the chance to become undisputed MW champion.

OK, this is simple, obvious, evident.....

He's been chasing it for years!!!!! I know English isn't your first language but it's much more endearing to admit confusion than argue silliness.

Of course, I am not a native English speaker, and, I am confused, from time to time. I admit that I was not so precise in this topic. But, be honest, please, and answer the question....Do you consider Lomachenko the best boxer at SFW, right now ?

Yes, everyone does. No way in hell he'll get all 4 belts.

Crawford at 140 and Golovkin at 160 are most likely. If Crawford gets past Diaz then he's 1 fight away (Indongo). Golovkin is already 1 fight away (Saunders). Can't see any fights for all 4 belts happening any time soon in any other divisions unfortunately.

FWIW Eddie Hearn is claiming that he has "promoter options" on Indongo's next fight (talks about it from around 1.20 until 2.40)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHxMhcoFvA0

I think the Burns rematch is unlikely (people surely won't be queuing up for that at all, but what do I know?), but Indongo-Davis to bolster some kind of PPV event is possible. Makes the Crawford fight being next a little less likely too but maybe not impossible (does that sell well in Omaha?).

Lomachenkos 95% chance is real IF other champions get in ring with him ...and that may be problem