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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

davie wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Great concept from davie, but ho-hum choices for the regulars here. I can watch McCallum dominate many fighters.

The original concept was Horses over on the UK forum. It was aimed at the less knowledgeable among us. A lot of us never had a huge historical knowledge so you could show the more famous bouts. I could have got away with just showing McCallum vs Toney, Kalambay and Watson/Graham/Collins over there with the probability most wouldn't have seen it

It's harder on here, we're dealing with a lot more posters who have seen more boxing, know more of the history. Then we have guys like myself, still learning.

Someone requests someone like McCallum, I've got the dilemma, if I choose his very best fights everyone's seen them, if I pick the more obscure ones....well they're obscure for a reason, either the fight is one sided and the opponent's guff or the fights as dull as poo.
I opted for him in his pre-160 days because I felt his middleweight career was better known.
I selected some of his better known 154lb fights and thought the Mannion fight was something a little more left field, perhaps not the best fight, but a one sided affair can showcase the better fighters skills and there's a good chance I'm showing something most won't have seen.

But I probably need top mix up the featured fighter a bit too and go for slightly more obscure lesser known (less watched) fighters. Suggestions like above are ideal.

Another point worth noting, is that this isn't always about just showing wars and the very best fights, it's about seeing something we haven't watched before, fights with a historical significance, for educational purposes, learning a bit more about greats of yesteryear.
Of course I'm aware that there are a few on here that don't need that as they've seen just about every bloody fight that's every had view-able footage. But for me and some others, there's plenty from Guys like Archie Moore and Mike McCallum I haven't seen, there's some of the little guys from the far east that I haven't watched in a single bout where as some guys have a wealth of knowledge. It's difficult to capture everyone

I had thought about showing a couple Dick Tiger fights next week. Not sure how many have seen a lot of his fights. Any thoughts?

You're doing fine, I'm just old and bitter. Watch Lee/locicero immediately if you haven't seen it.

elmersalsa wrote:Is there is a super welterweight that I favor to beat the great Tommy Hearns, that would be The Body Snatcher.

A great boxer that never had the credit that he deserves

dalcumly wrote:I saw Mc Callum beat Michael Watson at the Albert Hall and he won easily. But what an absolute horror of a person. In 2000 he came to Scotland as part of Tyson's entourage. In the packed dressing room before Tyson's fight with Savarese one of the BBB of C officials asked Tyson if he'd autograph his programme for his son. Tyson looked at McCallum seeking his approval , Mc Callum shook his head , Tyson shrugged his shoulders and refused to sign. McCallum snatched the programme and walked off with it. When the official asked for it back he was told to 'F--- off you white pig ' . The programme was recovered some time later when McCallum left it lying on a seat.

dalcumly wrote:I saw Mc Callum beat Michael Watson at the Albert Hall and he won easily. But what an absolute horror of a person. In 2000 he came to Scotland as part of Tyson's entourage. In the packed dressing room before Tyson's fight with Savarese one of the BBB of C officials asked Tyson if he'd autograph his programme for his son. Tyson looked at McCallum seeking his approval , Mc Callum shook his head , Tyson shrugged his shoulders and refused to sign. McCallum snatched the programme and walked off with it. When the official asked for it back he was told to 'F--- off you white pig ' . The programme was recovered some time later when McCallum left it lying on a seat.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

davie wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Mannion deserves it.

Not a fan then?

You misunderstand, he deserves to be recognized. This just isn't among the top thousands of fights I'd tell someone to watch. Clint Jackson/Frank Fletcher is an unknown epic. Have you seen caveman Lee/John LoCicero? That is clearly superior to Hagler/Hearns.

Ambling Alp II wrote:Whereas Hearns lost a decision to Danza on "Who's the Boss?"

Smokin' Bert wrote:What an amazing war McCallum-Jackson is while it lasts. Looks like it got stopped a bit prematurely. But, credit to McCallum for weathering those bombs and returning fire. Both men looked in excellent form in that fight. Pity there was never a rematch.

elmersalsa wrote:

Smokin' Bert wrote:What an amazing war McCallum-Jackson is while it lasts. Looks like it got stopped a bit prematurely. But, credit to McCallum for weathering those bombs and returning fire. Both men looked in excellent form in that fight. Pity there was never a rematch.

Great fight while it lasted. MIke took The Hawk's best shots and prevailed. Maybe the stoppage was too soon. Maybe not. But a great win nonetheless.

Julian Jackson is the best knockout artist that I have seen in my lifetime. He had brutal power in both fists. He was an animal.

scorpio83 wrote:

elmersalsa wrote:

Smokin' Bert wrote:What an amazing war McCallum-Jackson is while it lasts. Looks like it got stopped a bit prematurely. But, credit to McCallum for weathering those bombs and returning fire. Both men looked in excellent form in that fight. Pity there was never a rematch.

Great fight while it lasted. MIke took The Hawk's best shots and prevailed. Maybe the stoppage was too soon. Maybe not. But a great win nonetheless.

Julian Jackson is the best knockout artist that I have seen in my lifetime. He had brutal power in both fists. He was an animal.

If Mike McCallum did that to Julian Jackson, who did that to Terry Norris, Mike McCallum would destroy Terry Norris as well because Norris didn't have a great chin and McCallum would wear him down with great body shots before knocking him out.