Double Standards & the Blind Loyalty of Golovkin Fans!

[Butterbean]

another nationalist inbreed trump yank having a hard time accepting that a non american is beating the hell out of everybody. and in a stile and manner that the us boxing scene havent been able to deliver in decades.
it hurts does it not ? had golovkin been american you would praise him like the second coming of christ.
so now the golovkin hype, after five years or so, have finally proven to be for real. the results speaks for themselves. and instead of praising and enjoying the skill level of this dude, you grasp at straws, creating selfconstructed and desillusional arguements as an excuse for trying to put that fighter and his fans down.
you are a sad peace of work. sorry to break it to you.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

It’s an intentionally provocative post to encourage people to adopt a more moderate approach towards their appreciation and dislike of certain fighters, since many people that frequent this forum are blindly loyal to the point that they feel compelled to hold different fighters to different standards.

I am not a hard-core die-hard GGG fan, but I’m not a hater either. It’s my personal preference for me to see people adopting opinions that are consistent in nature and discuss facts instead, hence the nature of this thread.

You will never achieve that goal here.
Not just because I've failed to accomplish that here.

But because there is a boxing media that shamelessly chases money.
Lampley has shamelessly called fights in favor of HBO fighters for years.
Lederman has shamelessly scored fights in favor of HBO fighters for years.
ESPN is in cahoots with HBO. And who knows who else in the media is too.

So if your a fan of Manny, GGG or Kovalev (for example),
then you are being fed a false reality by every corner of the media.
For example, most people here now score fights using imaginary HBO standards.

If you think it's bad now,
I've endured Hatton fans, Calzaghe fans, Manny fans, Khan fans, Froch fans, Pavlik fans ...

[Enlightened-One]

another nationalist inbreed trump yank having a hard time accepting that a non american is beating the hell out of everybody. and in a stile and manner that the us boxing scene havent been able to deliver in decades.
it hurts does it not ? had golovkin been american you would praise him like the second coming of christ.
so now the golovkin hype, after five years or so, have finally proven to be for real. the results speaks for themselves. and instead of praising and enjoying the skill level of this dude, you grasp at straws, creating selfconstructed and desillusional arguements as an excuse for trying to put that fighter and his fans down.
you are a sad peace of work. sorry to break it to you.

The irrational nature of this post is a prime example of the type of issues detailed in the first post of this thread.

Your hostile comments about the US are especially intriguing, which may partly explain the reason for the extreme behaviour and opinions of hardcore GGG fans.

Thanks for your feedback.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

another nationalist inbreed trump yank having a hard time accepting that a non american is beating the hell out of everybody. and in a stile and manner that the us boxing scene havent been able to deliver in decades.
it hurts does it not ? had golovkin been american you would praise him like the second coming of christ.
so now the golovkin hype, after five years or so, have finally proven to be for real. the results speaks for themselves. and instead of praising and enjoying the skill level of this dude, you grasp at straws, creating selfconstructed and desillusional arguements as an excuse for trying to put that fighter and his fans down.
you are a sad peace of work. sorry to break it to you.

Inbreed Trump Yank ...
Sad Peace of Work ...

Everyone has praised the skill of GGG.
But that doesn't mean that his fandom hasn't gone too far.

[lefty]

I think you make some solid points.

[caldo2025]

GGG is one of the greatest Middleweight Champions in history. I consider him the greatest MW in my generation and I can only speak for the era's that i've witnessed. Prior to GGG, Hagler was the greatest in history. GGG's going to break every record set in the division. Anyone that doesn't give this fighter his due is a hater.

Newsflash- rematches rarely happen in the current era of boxing. Anyone who is anyone would rather see a Canelo/GGG fight than a rematch with Jacobs. I had GGG clearly winning the fight and I have no interest in seeing another one of them because there's no way Jacobs can duplicate that effort and finish the fight.

Let's see EO answer some questions in GGG's native tongue and then hold him accountable for every single word. Joke.

EO has a hard on for GGG and he continues to tie up this site with the same garbage posts about the same garbage topics.

[Ossyrules]

GGG is the best at 160 since Hopkins. He hasn't over taken Hopkins yet imo

[world ranked]

Resumé and how you deal with them should

Pac has the best resume in boxing now. Should he be p4p #1 ? No, because he is not that fighter anymore who created that resume.

Well no it goes without saying it has to be current and relevant

He probably be #1 if he was active. That's the only reason he's not.

[Kalan]

The problem I have with Team GGG and his obsessive fans is the double-standards and inconsistencies, such as:

• Is willing to face certain fighters at 168lbs or 175lbs, but then demands 164lb catch-weight stipulations for others
• Is willing to face certain fighters at 154lbs, whilst refusing to engage in catch-weight stipulations at a higher weight (i.e. 155lbs, 157lbs etc.) for others
• Is critical of light middleweights facing 147lb-ers, but yet he's praised for fighting a welterweight at 160lbs
• Is critical of other fighters demanding catch-weight stipulations, but he has previously done this himself when he claimed he would only consider fighting a certain opponent at 164lbs
• Is critical of prospective opponents requesting too much money to face him, yet he himself has declined to consider opportunities to engage in marquee fights against pound-for-pound quality opposition for precisely the same reason
• Has frequently claimed that he’s willing to face anyone between 154lbs to 168lbs, but GGG never competes at a weight other than 160lbs
• Certain fighters are criticised for refusing to engage in rematches against opposition that they have scored contentious decisions against, but Golovkin is supported for doing the same thing
• Has stated on multiple occasions that legacy takes precedence over money, yet he prefers to engage in a big money fight instead of title unification
• Has previously accused other fighters as being “cowards” and “ducks”, because they refused to face him for the money being offered, due to these opponents claiming they could command greater sums elsewhere, but yet he’s praised for doing the very same thing himself
• Golovkin fans are outraged when the quality of his resume is scrutinised and exposed using evidence cited by the same third-party sources that they usually support for other fighters

I don’t feel I need to expand on these points, since they are easy to understand the situations I’m referring to.

Thoughts?

Okay Deluded One... Floyd had a World Title at 154.. Golovkin offered to drop 6 pounds to fight him for it.. Other boxers that weight aren't worth the sacrifice..

Over the last several years GGG tried to get 168 pound acclimation fights with Oosthuizen, Rodriguez, Chavez, and Froch.. to help build up and prepare for a Ward fight.. Ward did 3 acclimation fights before he moved up fewer pounds (7 versus 8) to fight Kovalev...All those Super Middleweights sounded interested and even got into negotiations, but they all chickened out in the end.

Triple-G has never been critical of anyone fighting a World Welterweight Champion.. Marv Hagler, Ray Robinson, and Dick Tiger were ATG Middleweight Champions who LOST their Titles to World Welterweight Champions.. So those fights were not without risk.. What's without risk is fighting a chinny ducker (Khan) who has consistently ducked the best Welterweight Championship Fights against the best Welterweights in the world.

Golovkin posted a close, clear, and convincing win over Daniel Jacobs AFTER Jacobs refused to weigh-in at 170 and renounced one of the Middleweight Titles they were supposed to be fighting for so he could gain a big size and weight advantage...

Golovkin has given Canelo reasonable offers and he's been given unreasonable offers in return... Canelo abandoned his Middleweight Title rather than fight GGG...

Golovkin isn't Martinez, Chavez, Quillin, Lee, Cotto, Canelo, Saunders, and other Middleweight Champions who have been ducking him for 7 years.

[asdfjkl]

I never followed the guy, but once had to predict one of his fights and had to watch vids of him. I wasn't impressed at all, but saw he had quite a chin and is in good shape. But no power, despite everyone saying so.

[magicrp]

After Manny was schooled by Mayweather, poor Manny fans became GAYLOVEKIN fans.
When GAYLOVEKIN loses the CANELO FIGHT,poor fans will say that GAYLOVEKIN is too old, then become LOMA fans.

[Kalan]

GGG will murder CanYellow and take all HIS fans... They're already Lomachenko fans -- because he's the best in the world.

[boxing_rocks]

After Manny was schooled by Mayweather, poor Manny fans became GAYLOVEKIN fans.
When GAYLOVEKIN loses the CANELO FIGHT,poor fans will say that GAYLOVEKIN is too old, then become LOMA fans.

Nobody got schooled in that fight. It was a borefest with two old has-beens beeing too cautious with one slightly out-touching the other one. Judges made a right decision, but "schooling" ??? One who was schooled by Mayweather is Canyellow.