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Boxerbeetle wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:AJ v Fury summer 2018 - Wembley Stadium, 90001

Great news for Kugan

What was the deal with him on Saturday? He fell out with Bernd Bonte which meant he was banned from the stadium or something?

Will Joshua get stripped of his belts for taking the rematch a la Fury??

Optimally Pulev then Ortiz then Wilder. Pulev is an easier job then Ortiz and the man deserves an easier fight after Klitschko. Ortiz should not be forced to wait too long though.

Althoug Cuban seems very determined to fight him next, so he might not sidestep for Kubrat.

Coco wrote:Will Joshua get stripped of his belts for taking the rematch a la Fury??

If it was IBF definitely. But this is WBA, the least strict or fair of the four.

Here are the William Hill odds for who he fights next and who will win;


1/8 Anthony Joshua, 9/2 Wladimir Klitschko, 25/1 Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Deontay Wilder, 25/1 Draw

1/20 Anthony Joshua, 8/1 Joseph Parker Parker, Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Tyson Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/33 Anthony Joshua, 10/1 Hughie Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/12 Anthony Joshua, 6/1 David Haye, 25/1 Draw

1/16 Anthony Joshua, 7/1 Tony Bellew, 25/1 Draw

KiwiRider wrote:Here are the William Hill odds for who he fights next and who will win;


1/8 Anthony Joshua, 9/2 Wladimir Klitschko, 25/1 Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Deontay Wilder, 25/1 Draw

1/20 Anthony Joshua, 8/1 Joseph Parker Parker, Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Tyson Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/33 Anthony Joshua, 10/1 Hughie Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/12 Anthony Joshua, 6/1 David Haye, 25/1 Draw

1/16 Anthony Joshua, 7/1 Tony Bellew, 25/1 Draw

Heavens above! Don't get a lot of value with Joshua...

Run it back. That could be an epic trilogy.

KiwiRider wrote:Here are the William Hill odds for who he fights next and who will win;


1/8 Anthony Joshua, 9/2 Wladimir Klitschko, 25/1 Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Deontay Wilder, 25/1 Draw

1/20 Anthony Joshua, 8/1 Joseph Parker Parker, Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Tyson Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/33 Anthony Joshua, 10/1 Hughie Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/12 Anthony Joshua, 6/1 David Haye, 25/1 Draw

1/16 Anthony Joshua, 7/1 Tony Bellew, 25/1 Draw

Why such discrepancy between two sides of the bets in those two fights. Odds for Hughie is shortened 3 times!

It seems an even enough spread between the 4 prospective challengers.

Didn't anyone else here Klitchsko mumble - "it's in the contract" - when asked would he rematch Joshua.

Klitchsko 2 in Germany is my guess.

Sam Sexton.

stujones wrote:Didn't anyone else here Klitchsko mumble - "it's in the contract" - when asked would he rematch Joshua.

Klitchsko 2 in Germany is my guess.

Yeah, he has the option of a rematch. It's either a rematch or retirement. He hasn't announced his intentions yet.

stujones wrote:Didn't anyone else here Klitchsko mumble - "it's in the contract" - when asked would he rematch Joshua.
Klitchsko 2 in Germany is my guess.

The problem with that is, what is Klitschsko's bargaining chips? He isn't ranked as a mando challenger by any of the titles. So if the rematch doesn't happen next, it won't cost AJ anything.

Be amazed if it's not Pulev.

Matchroom will want him to avoid a war in his next one. Pulev the lightest hitter and gets a IBF mandatory out of the way.

stujones wrote:Didn't anyone else here Klitchsko mumble - "it's in the contract" - when asked would he rematch Joshua.

Klitchsko 2 in Germany is my guess.

It won't be in Germany. Wlad was willing to travel for Joshua given the latter was a (paper) champion and the fight would do major figures at Wembley. I don't see how he gets home advantage after being stopped by a man who's now the legitimate #1 in the division and the fight being an unreal financial success.

Crease wrote:

stujones wrote:Didn't anyone else here Klitchsko mumble - "it's in the contract" - when asked would he rematch Joshua.
Klitchsko 2 in Germany is my guess.

The problem with that is, what is Klitschsko's bargaining chips? He isn't ranked as a mando challenger by any of the titles. So if the rematch doesn't happen next, it won't cost AJ anything.

Just depends if he wants it? He's an intelligent guy. He knows his chances of beating AJ a second time only decrease with time. He might think an alternate route, like Parker, may be an easier route to a world title.

KiwiRider wrote:Here are the William Hill odds for who he fights next and who will win;


1/8 Anthony Joshua, 9/2 Wladimir Klitschko, 25/1 Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Deontay Wilder, 25/1 Draw

1/20 Anthony Joshua, 8/1 Joseph Parker Parker, Draw

1/6 Anthony Joshua, 7/2 Tyson Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/33 Anthony Joshua, 10/1 Hughie Fury, 25/1 Draw

1/12 Anthony Joshua, 6/1 David Haye, 25/1 Draw

1/16 Anthony Joshua, 7/1 Tony Bellew, 25/1 Draw

Bellew is unbelievably short odds at 7/1. I'd turn my nose up at 25/1, maybe higher.

He has no other way to win than Joshua suffering an injury in fight, or pre-fight. I know he managed to achieve that with Haye, but 7/1 for it to happen again but against a young, seemingly fit Joshua? Nah

An AJ-Bellew fight would be ridicolous

Id like to see AJ go on a Froch style run of elite fights. Trample everybody while he's in his prime and own the era to himself.

Crease wrote:

stujones wrote:Didn't anyone else here Klitchsko mumble - "it's in the contract" - when asked would he rematch Joshua.
Klitchsko 2 in Germany is my guess.

The problem with that is, what is Klitschsko's bargaining chips? He isn't ranked as a mando challenger by any of the titles. So if the rematch doesn't happen next, it won't cost AJ anything.

It would cost him the ability to fight anyone else without wlads approval.

SAPFO wrote:Id like to see AJ go on a Froch style run of elite fights. Trample everybody while he's in his prime and own the era to himself.

Alas, wouldn't we all.

I was looking for "other" in the list which I think polls of this style should always have.

Anyway, I would like to see him and Deontay tbh then Parker. Lets mop up the belts, give Fury time to get himself together and have a testing/warm up fight or two (or let it turn out to unfold that does not get back in shape, shows he just does not have the mental desire for it anymore and so we can close that door anyway)

Does beating Kevin Johnson make you a mandatory these days? He doesn't throw punches, Danny Williams could beat him and become mandatory

Think he was already mandatory after Parker went the WBO route. The Johnston fight was only a keep warm fight, although a little embarrassing that he couldn't get him out of there in 12 (although he won every round).

danconnollyeire wrote:Does beating Kevin Johnson make you a mandatory these days? He doesn't throw punches, Danny Williams could beat him and become mandatory

His fight with Delboy was an eliminator for the number 2 spot.

Parker was mandated to fight Joshua but then got a vacant WBO title shot.