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Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 01 May 2017, 20:13
by Jip
gilgamesh wrote:Jip wrote:gilgamesh wrote:1. Vasyl Lomachenko
2. Sergey Kovalev *
3. Andre Ward *
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
6. Guillermo Rigondeaux
7. Terence Crawford
8. Roman Gonzalez
9. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
10. Manny Pacquiao
That's my P4P Top 10. I don't ever bother going any further than that.
I have Kovalev over Ward because I thought he beat Ward, and since P4P lists are all subjective anyway I'm going to rank the person I feel deserved the win ahead of the person I feel didn't deserve it.
I like your list. Why is crawford so low. Shouldnt he be around 3-4?
A convincing win over Felix Diaz in a few weeks will see him rise pretty high on my list. He probably should be higher already though admittedly.
Okay. I am very curious what will happen if he faces indongo. Crawford with his power and improving footwork lateral mobemant will be my favourite, but the reach and ko power of indongo are real problems. I think this will tc hardest test.
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 01 May 2017, 20:17
by SaadOffTheDeck
gilgamesh wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:1. Vasyl Lomachenko
2. Sergey Kovalev *
3. Andre Ward *
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
6. Guillermo Rigondeaux
7. Terence Crawford
8. Roman Gonzalez
9. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
10. Manny Pacquiao
That's my P4P Top 10. I don't ever bother going any further than that.
I have Kovalev over Ward because I thought he beat Ward, and since P4P lists are all subjective anyway I'm going to rank the person I feel deserved the win ahead of the person I feel didn't deserve it.
You didn't have Roman winning?
I was extremely sick and only a few hours shy of a 4 day hospital stay when I watched Gonzalez vs Sor Rungvisai. I watched the fight, but wasn't feeling well enough to properly score it. I do remember thinking Roman was gonna get it at the end though and being shocked when he didn't.
He won, good fight. I don't have rung top 10.
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 01 May 2017, 20:18
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
You didn't have Roman winning?
I was extremely sick and only a few hours shy of a 4 day hospital stay when I watched Gonzalez vs Sor Rungvisai. I watched the fight, but wasn't feeling well enough to properly score it. I do remember thinking Roman was gonna get it at the end though and being shocked when he didn't.
He won, good fight. I don't have rung top 10.
I'm sure Rung's stay in the P4P list will be short lived. I doubt very much he wins a rematch with Gonzalez and even should a rematch not occur I'm sure it wouldn't be long before he was beaten.
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 01 May 2017, 20:22
by SaadOffTheDeck
He's a handful, I wouldn't be over confident against him.
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 02 May 2017, 01:41
by ValMar
Jip wrote:ValMar wrote:Jip wrote:
Yes.
This is a solid list, but Usyk is too low, and you have to agree that HW is the most important weight division.
What has the importance of the hw division to do with p4p? Which boxers are the best regardless of weight. Thats p4p and not the heavyweight divisiin is the most important division and therefore we should have multiple hw boxers in the top 20 regardless of quality.
Klitschko deserves to be on the list, 100 %....
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 02 May 2017, 01:47
by davie
Jip wrote:
11 rigondeaux
Is he still top 3 all time though, in your expert opinion?
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 02 May 2017, 07:37
by Jip
Yup
Re: The 20 current best boxer p4p
Posted: 02 May 2017, 13:11
by Ossyrules
Jip wrote:1 lomachenko
2 inoue
3 golovkin
4 crawford
5 kovalev
6 spence
7 lara
8 canelo
9 thurman
10 joshua
11 rigondeaux
12 wangek
13 santa cruz
14 gonzales
15 estrada
16 jacobs
17 brook
18 usyk
19 m. garcia
20 pacquiao
Spence at 6?