Kell Brook says he would take a rematch with Gennady Golovkin

[sharpei_louis]

Agreed talk of a rematch is daft but he is being asked questions about it and naturally he's not gonna say 'no way would I ever do that again' and make himself look even weaker.
I think the Spence fight is about he biggest gamble of any move he could have made, biggest risk v lowest reward/kudos - if he wins then Spence is talked of as over hyped, and if he loses, where does he go next? Hoping Brook pulls it out of the bag but not convinced he will do at all. Only thing I would say in Brook's favour is that he seems to perform best when he has a real challenge in front of him, and he does this time.
If he does win I'd like to see Thurman (obvs) but Canelo at 154 would've been a really good fight.

[Rob3_142]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

[Covfefe]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

[verlichte]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

One of the top 154lb-ers.

[Covfefe]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

One of the top 154lb-ers.

Coming off a loss, likely having to fight abroad? This was the best choice. If Kell wins he cements his place as either the best or second best welterweight with a huge fight against Thurman in the future with a great position in the negotiations.

[Ossyrules]

People on this forum lose perspective when brook and golovkins names are mentioned

Brook was asked a question in interview and answered it.

It was the same for the fiery press conference between brook and spence and the trainers. The Ines who mention golovkins names were the hosts (smith and Hearn), then spences team, then finally brook. Every time brook mentioned golovkin it was a response to a question put to him. Then followed the spence fans on here criticising him talking about a loss so much. It really is clutching at straws.

It really doesn't surprise me that brook said he'd get back in there with golovkin, as Brooks a brave lad and wants to fight the best. But again perspective, he was asked a question about a hypothetical, there is no deals being made to make the fight. People need to get real

[verlichte]

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

One of the top 154lb-ers.

Coming off a loss, likely having to fight abroad? This was the best choice. If Kell wins he cements his place as either the best or second best welterweight with a huge fight against Thurman in the future with a great position in the negotiations.

I'm not sure about Kell Brook being forced by anyone to travel abroad, since he is very likely to be the biggest draw at 154lbs (barring Miguel Cotto). All of the big names in that division would have to travel to the UK to face him.

Coincidentally, Eddie Hearn tried to orchestrate a bout between Cotto and Brook, which was actually approved by HBO, but Roc Nation declined it.

'The Special One' would also earn far more money facing Amir Khan in a non-title contest than what he's being paid for the Errol Spence Jr. fight, but a combination of Ramadan and and Khan chasing Manny Pacquiao instead would have scuppered those plans in the short-term.

[Covfefe]

One of the top 154lb-ers.

Coming off a loss, likely having to fight abroad? This was the best choice. If Kell wins he cements his place as either the best or second best welterweight with a huge fight against Thurman in the future with a great position in the negotiations.

I'm not sure about Kell Brook being forced by anyone to travel abroad, since he is very likely to be the biggest draw at 154lbs (barring Miguel Cotto). All of the big names in that division would have to travel to the UK to face him.

Coincidentally, Eddie Hearn tried to orchestrate a bout between Cotto and Brook, which was actually approved by HBO, but Roc Nation declined it.

'The Special One' would also earn far more money facing Amir Khan in a non-title contest than what he's being paid for the Errol Spence Jr. fight, but a combination of Ramadan and and Khan chasing Manny Pacquiao instead would have scuppered those plans in the short-term.

Why would any champion have to travel to fight him when they don't have to fight him?

[verlichte]

Coming off a loss, likely having to fight abroad? This was the best choice. If Kell wins he cements his place as either the best or second best welterweight with a huge fight against Thurman in the future with a great position in the negotiations.

I'm not sure about Kell Brook being forced by anyone to travel abroad, since he is very likely to be the biggest draw at 154lbs (barring Miguel Cotto). All of the big names in that division would have to travel to the UK to face him.

Coincidentally, Eddie Hearn tried to orchestrate a bout between Cotto and Brook, which was actually approved by HBO, but Roc Nation declined it.

'The Special One' would also earn far more money facing Amir Khan in a non-title contest than what he's being paid for the Errol Spence Jr. fight, but a combination of Ramadan and and Khan chasing Manny Pacquiao instead would have scuppered those plans in the short-term.

Why would any champion have to travel to fight him when they don't have to fight him?

Money. There's a reason why boxers are known as "PRIZE" fighters rather than "PRIDE" fighters.

Put it this way, excluding the Canelo bout, Gennady Golovkin’s guaranteed payday against Kell Brook was his career highest, which was almost double the amount he earned for the Daniel Jacobs fight.

And as we all should know by now, GGG had to travel to the UK in order to defend his titles against his challenger, Kell Brook.

[Ossyrules]

Coming off a loss, likely having to fight abroad? This was the best choice. If Kell wins he cements his place as either the best or second best welterweight with a huge fight against Thurman in the future with a great position in the negotiations.

I'm not sure about Kell Brook being forced by anyone to travel abroad, since he is very likely to be the biggest draw at 154lbs (barring Miguel Cotto). All of the big names in that division would have to travel to the UK to face him.

Coincidentally, Eddie Hearn tried to orchestrate a bout between Cotto and Brook, which was actually approved by HBO, but Roc Nation declined it.

'The Special One' would also earn far more money facing Amir Khan in a non-title contest than what he's being paid for the Errol Spence Jr. fight, but a combination of Ramadan and and Khan chasing Manny Pacquiao instead would have scuppered those plans in the short-term.

Why would any champion have to travel to fight him when they don't have to fight him?

If they get paid well I guess

[Covfefe]

I'm not sure about Kell Brook being forced by anyone to travel abroad, since he is very likely to be the biggest draw at 154lbs (barring Miguel Cotto). All of the big names in that division would have to travel to the UK to face him.

Coincidentally, Eddie Hearn tried to orchestrate a bout between Cotto and Brook, which was actually approved by HBO, but Roc Nation declined it.

'The Special One' would also earn far more money facing Amir Khan in a non-title contest than what he's being paid for the Errol Spence Jr. fight, but a combination of Ramadan and and Khan chasing Manny Pacquiao instead would have scuppered those plans in the short-term.

Why would any champion have to travel to fight him when they don't have to fight him?

Money. There's a reason why boxers are known as "PRIZE" fighters rather than "PRIDE" fighters.

Put it this way, excluding the Canelo bout, Gennady Golovkin’s guaranteed payday against Kell Brook was his career highest, which was almost double the amount he earned for the Daniel Jacobs fight.

And as we all should know by now, GGG had to travel to the UK in order to defend his titles against his challenger, Kell Brook.

He didn't have to. He chose too. It's like you're not understanding this. If the fighters at 154 don't want to travel they won't. And it's telling he's taken this fight isn't it when he has all these options and he's the big numbers guy you think he is. The fact is he was out of proper options, Khan solid obviously do more but it wouldn't have happened so he's fighting his mandatory, and it's not an easy fight if they had have had easier options they would have taken them.

[Thomastearns]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

Kell Brook is up there with Ali and Frazier when it comes to bravery. Fighters like this don't know how to quit.

I just hope his handlers can protect him from himself in the future. The referee was very slow to spot the towel against Golovkin. Once Ingle had made his decision, very late, he should have got the referees attention immediately. As we know now, one more punch would have been disaster.

[verlichte]

Why would any champion have to travel to fight him when they don't have to fight him?

Money. There's a reason why boxers are known as "PRIZE" fighters rather than "PRIDE" fighters.

Put it this way, excluding the Canelo bout, Gennady Golovkin’s guaranteed payday against Kell Brook was his career highest, which was almost double the amount he earned for the Daniel Jacobs fight.

And as we all should know by now, GGG had to travel to the UK in order to defend his titles against his challenger, Kell Brook.

He didn't have to. He chose too. It's like you're not understanding this. If the fighters at 154 don't want to travel they won't. And it's telling he's taken this fight isn't it when he has all these options and he's the big numbers guy you think he is. The fact is he was out of proper options, Khan solid obviously do more but it wouldn't have happened so he's fighting his mandatory, and it's not an easy fight if they had have had easier options they would have taken them.

If I can’t convince you that the top dogs of the 154lbs weight-class would be willing to travel to the UK to earn bigger paydays against an opponent like Kell Brook than what they could command in the US, then there’s no point in us continuing this discussion, since it seems we've hit an impasse.

Eddie Hearn didn’t want Kell to face Errol Spence Jr. The American was not the only option for Brook, but the Brit wanted to retain his hard-earned IBF title. It’s as simple as that.

[Covfefe]

Money. There's a reason why boxers are known as "PRIZE" fighters rather than "PRIDE" fighters.

Put it this way, excluding the Canelo bout, Gennady Golovkin’s guaranteed payday against Kell Brook was his career highest, which was almost double the amount he earned for the Daniel Jacobs fight.

And as we all should know by now, GGG had to travel to the UK in order to defend his titles against his challenger, Kell Brook.

He didn't have to. He chose too. It's like you're not understanding this. If the fighters at 154 don't want to travel they won't. And it's telling he's taken this fight isn't it when he has all these options and he's the big numbers guy you think he is. The fact is he was out of proper options, Khan solid obviously do more but it wouldn't have happened so he's fighting his mandatory, and it's not an easy fight if they had have had easier options they would have taken them.

If I can’t convince you that the top dogs of the 154lbs weight-class would be willing to travel to the UK to earn bigger paydays against an opponent like Kell Brook than what they could command in the US, then there’s no point in us continuing this discussion, since it seems we've hit an impasse.

Eddie Hearn didn’t want Kell to face Errol Spence Jr. The American was not the only option for Brook, but the Brit wanted to retain his hard-earned IBF title. It’s as simple as that.

I'm not saying they wouldn't travel.

You said they would have too, Brook has no pull at 154. If he wanted to fight for a title there it would be on their terms. They may well travel if the money is so much better, but they don't HAVE too as you said they would.

Either way, Kell is going to really struggle here. Have you seen Spence? This kid isn't a Jeff Lacy regardless of what anyone says.

[Rob3_142]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

Well anyone. He could could blow out a no-hoper with a 100% chance of victory, and do no damage to his credibility to the casual fan, and probably still put a million quid in his bank. Or he could fight someone from the Khan, Pacquiao, Garcia stable, which would satisfy all comers.

To a boxing fan, this is the only credible choice.

[Covfefe]

I think a lot of credit has to go to Kell on this occasion. He probably had options to take other fights which were better risk vs. reward odds. He's taken the most risky fight at lowest reward (albeit a PPV stadium fight - in fact it is probably still decent reward financially, but maybe not kudos wise).

But this is what competitive sport should be about. Fighting against the best, to be the best.

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

Well anyone. He could could blow out a no-hoper with a 100% chance of victory, and do no damage to his credibility to the casual fan, and probably still put a million quid in his bank. Or he could fight someone from the Khan, Pacquiao, Garcia stable, which would satisfy all comers.

To a boxing fan, this is the only credible choice.

But he'd have had to have given up his title to fight anyone else. I'm surprised people think Kell is such a huge draw.

[Ossyrules]

He didn't have to. He chose too. It's like you're not understanding this. If the fighters at 154 don't want to travel they won't. And it's telling he's taken this fight isn't it when he has all these options and he's the big numbers guy you think he is. The fact is he was out of proper options, Khan solid obviously do more but it wouldn't have happened so he's fighting his mandatory, and it's not an easy fight if they had have had easier options they would have taken them.

If I can’t convince you that the top dogs of the 154lbs weight-class would be willing to travel to the UK to earn bigger paydays against an opponent like Kell Brook than what they could command in the US, then there’s no point in us continuing this discussion, since it seems we've hit an impasse.

Eddie Hearn didn’t want Kell to face Errol Spence Jr. The American was not the only option for Brook, but the Brit wanted to retain his hard-earned IBF title. It’s as simple as that.

I'm not saying they wouldn't travel.

You said they would have too, Brook has no pull at 154. If he wanted to fight for a title there it would be on their terms. They may well travel if the money is so much better, but they don't HAVE too as you said they would.

Either way, Kell is going to really struggle here. Have you seen Spence? This kid isn't a Jeff Lacy regardless of what anyone says.

I might be being a bit thick and missing the point, but basically if the champions will be paid well, matchroom in particular have brought a lot over to the UK

If they didn't want to fight brook then so I guess they wouldn't travel, but if they wanted a big pay day the record is there that England can secure it

[verlichte]

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

Well anyone. He could could blow out a no-hoper with a 100% chance of victory, and do no damage to his credibility to the casual fan, and probably still put a million quid in his bank. Or he could fight someone from the Khan, Pacquiao, Garcia stable, which would satisfy all comers.

To a boxing fan, this is the only credible choice.

But he'd have had to have given up his title to fight anyone else. I'm surprised people think Kell is such a huge draw.

Did Gennady Golovkin travel to the UK to face Kell Brook because he wanted to do some sight seeing around London?

[Covfefe]

If I can’t convince you that the top dogs of the 154lbs weight-class would be willing to travel to the UK to earn bigger paydays against an opponent like Kell Brook than what they could command in the US, then there’s no point in us continuing this discussion, since it seems we've hit an impasse.

Eddie Hearn didn’t want Kell to face Errol Spence Jr. The American was not the only option for Brook, but the Brit wanted to retain his hard-earned IBF title. It’s as simple as that.

I'm not saying they wouldn't travel.

You said they would have too, Brook has no pull at 154. If he wanted to fight for a title there it would be on their terms. They may well travel if the money is so much better, but they don't HAVE too as you said they would.

Either way, Kell is going to really struggle here. Have you seen Spence? This kid isn't a Jeff Lacy regardless of what anyone says.

I might be being a bit thick and missing the point, but basically if the champions will be paid well, matchroom in particular have brought a lot over to the UK

If they didn't want to fight brook then so I guess they wouldn't travel, but if they wanted a big pay day the record is there that England can secure it

And I don't disagree, he said they would have to travel to fight him and that simply isn't true. They could choose not to fight him or make him travel.

[Covfefe]

Well anyone. He could could blow out a no-hoper with a 100% chance of victory, and do no damage to his credibility to the casual fan, and probably still put a million quid in his bank. Or he could fight someone from the Khan, Pacquiao, Garcia stable, which would satisfy all comers.

To a boxing fan, this is the only credible choice.

But he'd have had to have given up his title to fight anyone else. I'm surprised people think Kell is such a huge draw.

Did Gennady Golovkin travel to the UK to face Kell Brook because he wanted to do some sight seeing around London?

No, he got paid nicely, and he CHOSE to come here. If he hadn't have wanted to he could have refused the fight.

[verlichte]

But he'd have had to have given up his title to fight anyone else. I'm surprised people think Kell is such a huge draw.

Did Gennady Golovkin travel to the UK to face Kell Brook because he wanted to do some sight seeing around London?

No, he got paid nicely, and he CHOSE to come here. If he hadn't have wanted to he could have refused the fight.

I never said that fighters are unable to decline fights if they don’t want to either face certain opposition or travel overseas.

I do believe that Kell Brook is a fiscally bigger draw than every single one of the top 154lb-ers, excluding Miguel Cotto. So if they want to face the Brit, then the bout would have to take place on British shores or not at all.

Kell Brook would clearly be willing to compete on American soil, if he’s on the financial B-side, but this won't be the case when he eventually makes the jump to the 154lbs weight division.

Boxing is an incredibly popular sport in Britain and even a pound-for-pounder like Gennady Golovkin would be on the financial B-side if matched against an unheralded unaccomplished fighter like Chris Eubank Jr., which would compel him to take the fight on British shores, because he’d earn far more competing in the UK than against a bigger name in the US.

[Covfefe]

Did Gennady Golovkin travel to the UK to face Kell Brook because he wanted to do some sight seeing around London?

No, he got paid nicely, and he CHOSE to come here. If he hadn't have wanted to he could have refused the fight.

I never said that fighters are unable to decline fights if they don’t want to either face certain opposition or travel overseas.

I do believe that Kell Brook is a fiscally bigger draw than every single one of the top 154lb-ers, excluding Miguel Cotto. So if they want to face the Brit, then the bout would have to take place on British shores or not at all.

Kell Brook would clearly be willing to compete on American soil, if he’s on the financial B-side, but this won't be the case when he eventually makes the jump to the 154lbs weight division.

Boxing is an incredibly popular sport in Britain and even a pound-for-pounder like Gennady Golovkin would likely be willing to face an unheralded unaccomplished fighter like Chris Eubank Jr. on British shores, because he’d earn far more competing in the UK than against a bigger name in the US.

It won't matter come Sunday.

[Rob3_142]

It was a choice between losing his belt and fighting who?

Well anyone. He could could blow out a no-hoper with a 100% chance of victory, and do no damage to his credibility to the casual fan, and probably still put a million quid in his bank. Or he could fight someone from the Khan, Pacquiao, Garcia stable, which would satisfy all comers.

To a boxing fan, this is the only credible choice.

But he'd have had to have given up his title to fight anyone else. I'm surprised people think Kell is such a huge draw.

Kell Brook is in his second PPV, and is just short of selling out a football stadium. He's hardly a nobody.

Any boxer can choose to not have a good payday, but you'd be hard pushed to find one.

[Covfefe]

Well anyone. He could could blow out a no-hoper with a 100% chance of victory, and do no damage to his credibility to the casual fan, and probably still put a million quid in his bank. Or he could fight someone from the Khan, Pacquiao, Garcia stable, which would satisfy all comers.

To a boxing fan, this is the only credible choice.

But he'd have had to have given up his title to fight anyone else. I'm surprised people think Kell is such a huge draw.

Kell Brook is in his second PPV, and is just short of selling out a football stadium. He's hardly a nobody.

Any boxer can choose to not have a good payday, but you'd be hard pushed to find one.

He's no star either. He isn't known at large to the general public. He is a draw, clearly, but he isn't so big where he can call all the shots and make champions travel. GGG chose to come here cause of the money, but that money was every bit there because of him as it was for Brook. He'll be in a cracking position if he wins this, though I don't think he will.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Okay.. who gave Brook a pity vote??