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Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:01
by SaadOffTheDeck
IKSRTFO wrote:Badhusker wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah, he's got to keep north of Crawford and Garcia.
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In a Crawford interview when him vs Spence is mentioned, it is the only time I have seen him hesitate, look very unsure of himself, and claim that Spence is moving up so it probably won't happen. Crawford seems ultra confident when talking about everyone else. Spence is quite a bit bigger. About 3 inches taller and walks around about 15 lbs + more than Crawford. Crawford vs Garcia would be interesting, as I read they split in the amateurs. I also read Crawford beat Mikey Garcia handily in the amateurs as well. Crawford will be a tough battle for anyone that gets in with him, you can bet on that. To me he is more versatile, great speed and moves much better laterally than Spence. Other than that, Spence has the size and strength advantages, along with a relentless body attack.
He's a better boxer than Spence and more proven. Spence hasn't faced anyone with exeptional speed or power and only gets hyped because of a rumored sparring session with Floyd where they leave out that Floyd almost stopped him.
You keep saying that, yet none of us that are high on him ever mention anything to do with sparring Floyd.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:42
by lefty
IKSRTFO wrote:Badhusker wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah, he's got to keep north of Crawford and Garcia.
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In a Crawford interview when him vs Spence is mentioned, it is the only time I have seen him hesitate, look very unsure of himself, and claim that Spence is moving up so it probably won't happen. Crawford seems ultra confident when talking about everyone else. Spence is quite a bit bigger. About 3 inches taller and walks around about 15 lbs + more than Crawford. Crawford vs Garcia would be interesting, as I read they split in the amateurs. I also read Crawford beat Mikey Garcia handily in the amateurs as well. Crawford will be a tough battle for anyone that gets in with him, you can bet on that. To me he is more versatile, great speed and moves much better laterally than Spence. Other than that, Spence has the size and strength advantages, along with a relentless body attack.
He's a better boxer than Spence and more proven. Spence hasn't faced anyone with exeptional speed or power and
only gets hyped because of a rumored sparring session with Floyd where they leave out that Floyd almost stopped him.
Where did you hear that Floyd nearly stopped him in the sparring session?
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 07:39
by SFW
By his 22nd fight Kell Brook was fighting Rick Dishwasher, and washy dishy man was a step up. Dozens of people came to see it... So lets not debate who's the actual ambitious fighter in this match up. Kell had nowhere else to go, he was forced into this fight or vacate. Kahn played him again, his money grab at middleweight almost ended his career thank goodness he didn't have to face the true ending, this guy's arrogance combined with Hearn's mishandling has left Kell in a bad spot. You will all undeniably see why this was the last fight the Brit wanted. After this fight all anyone is going to hear is "like Jeff Lacy huh? lolololololol yeah.."
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 09:37
by Ossyrules
SFW wrote:By his 22nd fight Kell Brook was fighting Rick Dishwasher, and washy dishy man was a step up. Dozens of people came to see it... So lets not debate who's the actual ambitious fighter in this match up. Kell had nowhere else to go, he was forced into this fight or vacate. Kahn played him again, his money grab at middleweight almost ended his career thank goodness he didn't have to face the true ending, this guy's arrogance combined with Hearn's mishandling has left Kell in a bad spot. You will all undeniably see why this was the last fight the Brit wanted. After this fight all anyone is going to hear is "like Jeff Lacy huh? lolololololol yeah.."
Another irrelevant comment from a spence fan.
clueless or trolling I'm not sure
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 14:03
by In the know 85
I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 14:49
by Ossyrules
In the know 85 wrote:I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 15:46
by Tanzio
Ossyrules wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
50/50

Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 15:53
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ossyrules wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
He's not fighting Joshua, much to your dismay he'll just be busting up Kell brook.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 15:58
by Ossyrules
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ossyrules wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
He's not fighting Joshua, much to your dismay he'll just be busting up Kell brook.
I thought after the guy posting he'd be multi division unifying all belts that going after the heavyweight champ was the next natural step!
You confuse me not liking or rating spence with dealing with the crazies. It's like shooting fish in a barrel
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 16:06
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ossyrules wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ossyrules wrote:
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
He's not fighting Joshua, much to your dismay he'll just be busting up Kell brook.
I thought after the guy posting he'd be multi division unifying all belts that going after the heavyweight champ was the next natural step!
You confuse me not liking or rating spence with dealing with the crazies. It's like shooting fish in a barrel
I doubt he'll be around welter long enough to unify. He may do it at 54, might have to beat brook again!
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 16:11
by Ossyrules
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ossyrules wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
He's not fighting Joshua, much to your dismay he'll just be busting up Kell brook.
I thought after the guy posting he'd be multi division unifying all belts that going after the heavyweight champ was the next natural step!
You confuse me not liking or rating spence with dealing with the crazies. It's like shooting fish in a barrel
I doubt he'll be around welter long enough to unify. He may do it at 54, might have to beat brook again!
I'm hoping for a classic and then why not! Im nervous but so looking forward to the fight. Most in ages! Could be the tommy - ray Leonard of this era! Probably exaggerating a lot but who cares!
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 16:23
by MachoTime
Ossyrules wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ossyrules wrote:
I thought after the guy posting he'd be multi division unifying all belts that going after the heavyweight champ was the next natural step!
You confuse me not liking or rating spence with dealing with the crazies. It's like shooting fish in a barrel
I doubt he'll be around welter long enough to unify. He may do it at 54, might have to beat brook again!
I'm hoping for a classic and then why not! Im nervous but so looking forward to the fight. Most in ages! Could be the tommy - ray Leonard of this era! Probably exaggerating a lot but who cares!
Brook & Spence both said "I'm not taking a step back" which means fireworks.
Translated: Usually Means:
...Only If I have to...
In other words I expect a tactical fight. I'd be surprised if they both went Hagler Hearns on each other.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 16:27
by Syntax Error
Badhusker wrote:Jip wrote:He wants to be the #1 at 147, said he wants Thurman & Pac. Than go up to 154. #1 p4p his ultimate goal.
How do you see him against Thurman.Pac.Charlo bros..Lara.Andrade?
Can he become the top boss @ 147 & 154, coming into consideration along with guys like Loma or Crawford as the best boxer in the world?
Let's see how the Brook fight goes first.
Spot on.
He hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy at 147 yet, never mind 154.
He's obviously a great prospect I have tipped him to win, but I think the massive hype might be going to his head.
Even if he does get past Brook, there's a world of trouble out there at 147 if he truly wants to rule the division.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 16:29
by Syntax Error
MachoTime wrote:Ossyrules wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
I doubt he'll be around welter long enough to unify. He may do it at 54, might have to beat brook again!
I'm hoping for a classic and then why not! Im nervous but so looking forward to the fight. Most in ages! Could be the tommy - ray Leonard of this era! Probably exaggerating a lot but who cares!
Brook & Spence both said "I'm not taking a step back" which means fireworks.
Translated: Usually Means:
...Only If I have to...
In other words I expect a tactical fight. I'd be surprised if they both went Hagler Hearns on each other.
Agreed.
There's no need for them to go Hagler/Hearns at all.
Hagler v Hearns was only like that because that was the only way Marvin could win his fights by 1985.
This is not the case with Brook & Spence.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 21:18
by In the know 85
Ossyrules wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
Stick to Aussie rules you bell end
You clearly have no clue about boxing, your almost retarded attempts at sarcasm also need brushing up on

Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 26 May 2017, 21:59
by SFW
Ossyrules wrote:SFW wrote:By his 22nd fight Kell Brook was fighting Rick Dishwasher, and washy dishy man was a step up. Dozens of people came to see it... So lets not debate who's the actual ambitious fighter in this match up. Kell had nowhere else to go, he was forced into this fight or vacate. Kahn played him again, his money grab at middleweight almost ended his career thank goodness he didn't have to face the true ending, this guy's arrogance combined with Hearn's mishandling has left Kell in a bad spot. You will all undeniably see why this was the last fight the Brit wanted. After this fight all anyone is going to hear is "like Jeff Lacy huh? lolololololol yeah.."
Another irrelevant comment from a spence fan.
clueless or trolling I'm not sure
Laughing...
The proof is in the pudding, we'll see soon enough who's the man and who isn't. The funniest part is everyone, even the oddsmakers, think Brook is gonna fail in his own hometown. Everyone except a few fluffers no big deal.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 03:34
by Ossyrules
In the know 85 wrote:Ossyrules wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I think Spence cleans out the division unifying all the belts then moves up a probably does the same.
Who wins
Spence vs joshua
Stick to Aussie rules you bell end
You clearly have no clue about boxing, your almost retarded attempts at sarcasm also need brushing up on

Most clueless fan ever
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 03:35
by Ossyrules
SFW wrote:Ossyrules wrote:SFW wrote:By his 22nd fight Kell Brook was fighting Rick Dishwasher, and washy dishy man was a step up. Dozens of people came to see it... So lets not debate who's the actual ambitious fighter in this match up. Kell had nowhere else to go, he was forced into this fight or vacate. Kahn played him again, his money grab at middleweight almost ended his career thank goodness he didn't have to face the true ending, this guy's arrogance combined with Hearn's mishandling has left Kell in a bad spot. You will all undeniably see why this was the last fight the Brit wanted. After this fight all anyone is going to hear is "like Jeff Lacy huh? lolololololol yeah.."
Another irrelevant comment from a spence fan.
clueless or trolling I'm not sure
Laughing...
The proof is in the pudding, we'll see soon enough who's the man and who isn't. The funniest part is everyone, even the oddsmakers, think Brook is gonna fail in his own hometown. Everyone except a few fluffers no big deal.
Brook may lose!
It's not because spence got to the top quicker, or has shown more ambition at any stage of his career etc etc
He'll be the better man on fight night. End
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 10:54
by SFW
Actually it's a lot more relevant than you think. Brook the long time welterweight chose to never face a real puncher, in his own division, before his promoter threw him in with a middleweight that hits like a light heavyweight. That complacency, as a long time top WW & champion and not once facing a top puncher, is a red flag. The only guarantee is that he's gonna wish he had faced one before today, because today is going to hurt. Cheers
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 11:12
by Ossyrules
SFW wrote:Actually it's a lot more relevant than you think. Brook the long time welterweight chose to never face a real puncher, in his own division, before his promoter threw him in with a middleweight that hits like a light heavyweight. That complacency, as a long time top WW & champion and not once facing a top puncher, is a red flag. The only guarantee is that he's gonna wish he had faced one before today, because today is going to hurt. Cheers
Porter may not be mike Tyson but he's hardly feather fisted is he
The fact that he got in with golovkin shows he isn't too concerned about his whiskers
You can call it a red flag if you like. To say the only guarantee is he'll wish he had been in with punchers prior to spence isn't a guarantee at all, it's just your bias for spence, who coincidently has been in with no punchers. Red flag?
Long story short, you want/think spence will win. No problems.
Biased arguements are easy to counter though
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 18:41
by Jip
Now everything is more real. He beat an world class ww and after unifying titles he should go up like he said for bigger challenges. Charlos, lundy, lara and andrade all will welcome him with open arms.
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 19:28
by IKSRTFO
Jip wrote:Now everything is more real. He beat an world class ww and after unifying titles he should go up like he said for bigger challenges. Charlos, lundy, lara and andrade all will welcome him with open arms.
Lundy?
Re: Spence wants to go to 154
Posted: 27 May 2017, 19:48
by Jip
Lubin...my bad
