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Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:07
by Ossyrules
world ranked wrote:
ValMar wrote:I was right. He is not a hype-job, he is a genuine champion. :TU:
Fair play to you saw. I respect guys who make a good opinion why these other fools cry about he hasn't beat anyone. Sometimes the eye test works for guys like Spence, Joshua
My only issue were the guys who'd cry brook hasn't beaten anyone prior to this fight. It was a flawed arguement. I agree some guys you can tell are the real deal.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:14
by SaadOffTheDeck
I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:18
by Ossyrules
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
There were plenty of posts! Look up posts under my name I've gone against that topic trust me.

My stance on it all was if someone thought spence was going to win no problems, but to cite that brook hadn't fought anyone as the reason was flawed logic.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:19
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ossyrules wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
There were plenty of posts! Look up posts under my name I've gone against that topic trust me.

My stance on it all was if someone thought spence was going to win no problems, but to cite that brook hadn't fought anyone as the reason was flawed logic.
Nah, I'm good.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:19
by ValMar
world ranked wrote:
ValMar wrote:I was right. He is not a hype-job, he is a genuine champion. :TU:
Fair play to you saw. I respect guys who make a good opinion why these other fools cry about he hasn't beat anyone. Sometimes the eye test works for guys like Spence, Joshua
:TU:

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:24
by Ossyrules
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
There were plenty of posts! Look up posts under my name I've gone against that topic trust me.

My stance on it all was if someone thought spence was going to win no problems, but to cite that brook hadn't fought anyone as the reason was flawed logic.
Nah, I'm good.
Excellent news

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:24
by ValMar
Ossyrules wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Spence wasn't a hype job, as proved last night

He had hype for sure, but backed it up
I agree with the first sentence.
FMJ has been speaking about Spence's great potential, but I don't consider this as hype.
It's hype. Building up expectations that this prospect is the goods. Hype doesn't equal all talk no results, he was talked up as a prospect that will go on to do big things, and justified it vs brook
OK, he was the prospect, promising fighter, right now - he is a genuine champion, in the near future he could be the great champion.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:27
by world ranked
Ossyrules wrote:
world ranked wrote:
ValMar wrote:I was right. He is not a hype-job, he is a genuine champion. :TU:
Fair play to you saw. I respect guys who make a good opinion why these other fools cry about he hasn't beat anyone. Sometimes the eye test works for guys like Spence, Joshua
My only issue were the guys who'd cry brook hasn't beaten anyone prior to this fight. It was a flawed arguement. I agree some guys you can tell are the real deal.
So who did you pick and why did you pick them?

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:29
by world ranked
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
Some where questioning he only has one good win and hasn't won a meaningful fight since 2014.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:29
by Ossyrules
ValMar wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
ValMar wrote:
I agree with the first sentence.
FMJ has been speaking about Spence's great potential, but I don't consider this as hype.
It's hype. Building up expectations that this prospect is the goods. Hype doesn't equal all talk no results, he was talked up as a prospect that will go on to do big things, and justified it vs brook
OK, he was the prospect, promising fighter, right now - he is a genuine champion, in the near future he could be the great champion.
For sure

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:37
by ValMar
The worst thing about Brook and his fans is an attempt to change reality speaking about match against GGG.
Frankly speaking, Golovkin had toyed with Brook, and literally had broken his face.
Anyway, Brook is a very decent fighter, but Spence is a level above him.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:39
by Ossyrules
world ranked wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Fair play to you saw. I respect guys who make a good opinion why these other fools cry about he hasn't beat anyone. Sometimes the eye test works for guys like Spence, Joshua
My only issue were the guys who'd cry brook hasn't beaten anyone prior to this fight. It was a flawed arguement. I agree some guys you can tell are the real deal.
So who did you pick and why did you pick them?
I had big worries for brook but I'll confess I picked him to win. The fight was a 50-50, but as a brook fan, I sided with him hoping that the home advantage and experience could be enough to impose his will on spence.

It was basically that and hoping that the eye injury from golovkin held up and doing the weight didn't effect him, that everything came good for brook on the night

On the other hand there was spence who was wrecking everything along the way. A daunting fighter really, and not the favourite in England for no reason. I actually had visions prior to the fight that spence might take him out much earlier than he did and the whole thing was a bit of an anti climax.

So long story short I didn't have a completely confident pick but was rooting big for brook. Spence was the man though he gets my full respect. Seems the type of fighter that if you're going to beat him, you're gonna really have to fight him for sure. I saw ways brook could have won the fight but it wasn't his night the better man won

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:42
by ValMar
world ranked wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
Some where questioning he only has one good win and hasn't won a meaningful fight since 2014.
That is true, but, he has been the most avoided WW recently.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:46
by SaadOffTheDeck
world ranked wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
Some where questioning he only has one good win and hasn't won a meaningful fight since 2014.
That was true.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:47
by world ranked
Ossyrules wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
My only issue were the guys who'd cry brook hasn't beaten anyone prior to this fight. It was a flawed arguement. I agree some guys you can tell are the real deal.
So who did you pick and why did you pick them?
I had big worries for brook but I'll confess I picked him to win. The fight was a 50-50, but as a brook fan, I sided with him hoping that the home advantage and experience could be enough to impose his will on spence.

It was basically that and hoping that the eye injury from golovkin held up and doing the weight didn't effect him, that everything came good for brook on the night

On the other hand there was spence who was wrecking everything along the way. A daunting fighter really, and not the favourite in England for no reason. I actually had visions prior to the fight that spence might take him out much earlier than he did and the whole thing was a bit of an anti climax.

So long story short I didn't have a completely confident pick but was rooting big for brook. Spence was the man though he gets my full respect. Seems the type of fighter that if you're going to beat him, you're gonna really have to fight him for sure. I saw ways brook could have won the fight but it wasn't his night the better man won
Respect your honesty!

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:48
by ValMar
world ranked wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
world ranked wrote:
So who did you pick and why did you pick them?
I had big worries for brook but I'll confess I picked him to win. The fight was a 50-50, but as a brook fan, I sided with him hoping that the home advantage and experience could be enough to impose his will on spence.

It was basically that and hoping that the eye injury from golovkin held up and doing the weight didn't effect him, that everything came good for brook on the night

On the other hand there was spence who was wrecking everything along the way. A daunting fighter really, and not the favourite in England for no reason. I actually had visions prior to the fight that spence might take him out much earlier than he did and the whole thing was a bit of an anti climax.

So long story short I didn't have a completely confident pick but was rooting big for brook. Spence was the man though he gets my full respect. Seems the type of fighter that if you're going to beat him, you're gonna really have to fight him for sure. I saw ways brook could have won the fight but it wasn't his night the better man won
Respect your honesty!
Yes !

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:49
by Ossyrules
world ranked wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
world ranked wrote:
So who did you pick and why did you pick them?
I had big worries for brook but I'll confess I picked him to win. The fight was a 50-50, but as a brook fan, I sided with him hoping that the home advantage and experience could be enough to impose his will on spence.

It was basically that and hoping that the eye injury from golovkin held up and doing the weight didn't effect him, that everything came good for brook on the night

On the other hand there was spence who was wrecking everything along the way. A daunting fighter really, and not the favourite in England for no reason. I actually had visions prior to the fight that spence might take him out much earlier than he did and the whole thing was a bit of an anti climax.

So long story short I didn't have a completely confident pick but was rooting big for brook. Spence was the man though he gets my full respect. Seems the type of fighter that if you're going to beat him, you're gonna really have to fight him for sure. I saw ways brook could have won the fight but it wasn't his night the better man won
Respect your honesty!
Credit where it's due the boys got a future!

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:49
by world ranked
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
world ranked wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone.
Some where questioning he only has one good win and hasn't won a meaningful fight since 2014.
That was true.
Yeah but that is good enough to be a top 5 WW before this fight.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:51
by ValMar
world ranked wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Some where questioning he only has one good win and hasn't won a meaningful fight since 2014.
That was true.
Yeah but that is good enough to be a top 5 WW before this fight.
Strange, but true....

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 12:52
by SaadOffTheDeck
world ranked wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Some where questioning he only has one good win and hasn't won a meaningful fight since 2014.
That was true.
Yeah but that is good enough to be a top 5 WW before this fight.
Sure, I've rated brook for years. I just didn't see anyone say brook hasn't beaten anyone. If if he hadn't, the ggg fight showed plenty. Likely people already on my ignore list.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 13:54
by Baby Face Finster
Spence is very good but I think Crawford is better. When they do meet I have no doubts that Crawford will school him.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 13:56
by SaadOffTheDeck
I doubt that fight ever happens.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 14:30
by ValMar
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I doubt that fight ever happens.
It would be a real mega-fight. Let it be...2020....

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 14:37
by asdfjkl
Sorry, but I'd say, link or it didn't happen, I'm not following the lower weightleages, so I have no clue if he was any good in the past.
Somehow I said similar things about Anthony Joshua and that happened as well.

Re: I told you here last year : Spence would be the great champion !

Posted: 28 May 2017, 15:03
by ValMar
asdfjkl wrote:Sorry, but I'd say, link or it didn't happen, I'm not following the lower weightleages, so I have no clue if he was any good in the past.
Somehow I said similar things about Anthony Joshua and that happened as well.
I prefer HW, of course, but WW division is becoming very, very hot.
Believe me, I felt/said/wrote the similar things about Joshua (and Usyk).