Round-By-Round - Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Zeuge vs. Smith Winner?

Poll ended at 08 Jun 2017, 16:50

Tyron Zeuge
39
80%
Paul Smith
10
20%
 
Total votes: 49

wadey
Cruiserweight
Posts: 272
Joined: 01 Sep 2010, 07:00

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by wadey »

Paul Smith Currently ranked 7th in the UK Super middleweight rankings.

Paul Smith last 3 fights:

Daniel Regi - Ranked 198th
Bartlomiej Grafka - Ranked 363rd
Bronislav Kubin - Ranked 804th.

How on earth does the above now qualify him for a World title shot? Has someone pulled a fast one somewhere!!!!!
Stuarty
Super Welterweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

wadey wrote:Paul Smith Currently ranked 7th in the UK Super middleweight rankings.

Paul Smith last 3 fights:

Daniel Regi - Ranked 198th
Bartlomiej Grafka - Ranked 363rd
Bronislav Kubin - Ranked 804th.

How on earth does the above now qualify him for a World title shot? Has someone pulled a fast one somewhere!!!!!
Smith wasn't even in the rankings and as soon as the fight with Zeuge was mentioned he mysteriously found himself in contention despite doing fukk all to merit it. The WBA president was asked about it and couldn't give an answer. I think there were some petitions going about to have the fight stopped and Fast Car had a little bitch fit rant about it because apparently we as fans haven't to ask questions and just sit and munch the shít he's feeding us like good little fans.

Nothing surprises me in the sport anymore.
boxingknockout
Super Lightweight
Posts: 2856
Joined: 09 Sep 2016, 10:45

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by boxingknockout »

War Smigga!!!!
Marlo Stanfield
Middleweight
Posts: 447
Joined: 17 Dec 2013, 14:38

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Marlo Stanfield »

Hope he misses weight again :OhYes:
wesshaw1985
Middleweight
Posts: 7483
Joined: 21 Jul 2013, 17:57

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Paul Smith: The Timing is Right, I'll Beat Zeuge For World Title - See more at: http://www.BS.com/paul-smith-t ... eZaeE.dpuf
boxingknockout
Super Lightweight
Posts: 2856
Joined: 09 Sep 2016, 10:45

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by boxingknockout »

Has anyone seen Zeuge fight? Is he any good?
Counter-puncher
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 39141
Joined: 20 May 2008, 11:41

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Counter-puncher »

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone seen Zeuge fight? Is he any good?
it seems just about everyone on the forum hopes he's absolutely fvcking deadly...
Taansend
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 11632
Joined: 10 Jul 2004, 17:38

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Taansend »

Stuarty30 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Probably. It isn't really a proper world title to be fair. It's the WBA normal(ish) proper(ish) title. Even still, I can't stick the thought of him winning a world strap. Hopefully Zeuge chins him and he retires.
Unfortunately, the regular strap counts as a world title I believe.. All WBA's fault.. Clev also holds the regular I believe.
Still, IF he does win I refuse to recognise him as a legitimate world champion. He's utter dire. I hope Zeuge chins him. It'll be interesting to see how Smith does the weight.
When Smiff wins lets you and I get matching tattoos of his face on our backs.

Or matching tattoos of his back on our face.

Either one works for me.

You in?
boxingknockout
Super Lightweight
Posts: 2856
Joined: 09 Sep 2016, 10:45

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by boxingknockout »

Counter-puncher wrote:
boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone seen Zeuge fight? Is he any good?
it seems just about everyone on the forum hopes he's absolutely fvcking deadly...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
crusader
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 16875
Joined: 19 Jan 2009, 20:14

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by crusader »

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone seen Zeuge fight? Is he any good?
He doesn't do anything particularly good, but is okay in most areas. I'd say he's more of an EBU level fighter than a genuine world class one, and I'd expect people like Jack, Groves, Degale, Benavidez, and C. Smith to beat him pretty handily.

The draw with De Carolis gives an idea of where he's at. He improved for the rematch, but then looked pretty basic after that against a fringe-contending Nigerian who probably isn't much better (if at all) than our boy Paul.
Last edited by crusader on 12 Jun 2017, 12:15, edited 1 time in total.
boxingknockout
Super Lightweight
Posts: 2856
Joined: 09 Sep 2016, 10:45

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by boxingknockout »

crusader wrote:
boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone seen Zeuge fight? Is he any good?
He doesn't do anything particularly good, but is okay at a lot of things. I'd say he's more of an EBU level fighter than a genuine world class one, and I'd expect people like Jack, Groves, Degale, Benavidez, and C. Smith to beat him pretty handily.

The draw with De Carolis gives an idea of where he's at. He improved for the rematch, but then looked pretty basic after that against a fringe-contending Nigerian who probably isn't much better (if at all) than our boy Paul.
Lord then you think there's a chance of a Smigga win???
crusader
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 16875
Joined: 19 Jan 2009, 20:14

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by crusader »

Zeuge should be the favourite and I'm expecting him to win, but it wouldn't shock me if Smith pulled it off.
Stuarty
Super Welterweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

Taansend wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Unfortunately, the regular strap counts as a world title I believe.. All WBA's fault.. Clev also holds the regular I believe.
Still, IF he does win I refuse to recognise him as a legitimate world champion. He's utter dire. I hope Zeuge chins him. It'll be interesting to see how Smith does the weight.
When Smiff wins lets you and I get matching tattoos of his face on our backs.

Or matching tattoos of his back on our face.

Either one works for me.

You in?
I'd rather let SuBo dry ride me with a 10 inch strap on blud :o

I've got some snidey tattoos but that would take the cake :lol:
Stuarty
Super Welterweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Stuarty »

crusader wrote:Zeuge should be the favourite and I'm expecting him to win, but it wouldn't shock me if Smith pulled it off.
He has to make the weight first the big fat ride
Tangerine
Middleweight
Posts: 1306
Joined: 15 Jan 2014, 17:33

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Tangerine »

I think Zeuge has improved to be honest,his punching power has certainly improved and with both hands.Infact even though he is an orthodox fighter his left hand has become pretty dangerous.He had De Carolis hurt 5 or 6 times in the second fight.He is a solid body puncher aswell as shown with De Carolis where he broke him down and hurt him to the body plenty times then smelt him fading late on and got him in the corner and finished him.I can see him working Smiggas mid section and stopping him around half way mark.
Andrew
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6108
Joined: 17 Jul 2012, 09:31

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Andrew »

WAAAAAAAR ZEUGE :bag: :bag: :bag: :bag: :bag:
emallini
Middleweight
Posts: 1676
Joined: 08 Nov 2013, 12:31

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by emallini »

The Paul Smith hate is so fornicating boring, I hope he wins.
TheGman
Middleweight
Posts: 8964
Joined: 10 Oct 2013, 12:37

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by TheGman »

How the hell can someone fight for a "world title" when in his last 10 fights 4 have losing records and you lose 3 of the last 6 fights? Its a joke and how do the smiths have so much power in british boxing?
stujones
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 27449
Joined: 29 Aug 2003, 15:08

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by stujones »

My view on this is, is okay it is not deserved but it is happening. So lets get over it.

There have probably British fighters who have been as less deserving as Smith but without this condemnation. Its not as is he is a club fighter, he showed in 24 rounds with Abraham that he can hang with that level of opposition. Gary Lockett's three fights before Pavlik wasn't exactly top draw.... but certainly not the criticism, Howard Clarke another.

Smith has certainly polarised opinion possibly based on his online presence on here.... but I would prefer to read the "told ya so's" after the fight. I can envisage a retirment speech win or lose vs Zeuge anyway.
lefty
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 19821
Joined: 04 Feb 2012, 11:33

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by lefty »

handsofstone wrote:I actually think this might be a decent fight, its not a world title fight so I wont get my knickers in a twist, both guys are at different stages of their careers but both at a similar level i'd say, Smith for all the baggage and hatred he brings did actually give Abraham a tough fight in their first scrap so isn't as bad as some might think, I thought he nicked the fight TBH but it was close

Zeuge isn't anything special but he's tough, strong and aggressive, he isn't a massive KO puncher but his shots do carry weight and if he can target Smith's body then I reckon that's the way he's most likely to get him out of there, its a tall order for Smith to win a decision so he's got to break Zeuge down and use his experience and not allow Zeuge to get comfortable

I remember Zeuge getting a gift of a draw in his first fight with De Carolis recently so Smith really has to look good if he's to be in with a shout
To Smith it is! You better believe it! :lol:
handsofstone
Cruiserweight
Posts: 23006
Joined: 11 Jan 2011, 17:28

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by handsofstone »

IT wrote:
handsofstone wrote:I actually think this might be a decent fight, its not a world title fight so I wont get my knickers in a twist, both guys are at different stages of their careers but both at a similar level i'd say, Smith for all the baggage and hatred he brings did actually give Abraham a tough fight in their first scrap so isn't as bad as some might think, I thought he nicked the fight TBH but it was close

Zeuge isn't anything special but he's tough, strong and aggressive, he isn't a massive KO puncher but his shots do carry weight and if he can target Smith's body then I reckon that's the way he's most likely to get him out of there, its a tall order for Smith to win a decision so he's got to break Zeuge down and use his experience and not allow Zeuge to get comfortable

I remember Zeuge getting a gift of a draw in his first fight with De Carolis recently so Smith really has to look good if he's to be in with a shout
To Smith it is! You better believe it! :lol:
:lol: Thats the only thing that'll bug me, Smith, Eddie and Sky all claiming he's a world champ but TBF I'm like that with anyone who holds a WBA "Regular" belt
lefthook82
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1836
Joined: 07 Mar 2008, 04:33

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by lefthook82 »

The fume on social media is making me want to bet on Smith stoppage at 10/1. He wouldn't be the first undeserved challenger to win a world title (Gavin Rees says Hi) but I think he might 'justify' the ranking by winning. T
Andrew
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6108
Joined: 17 Jul 2012, 09:31

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by Andrew »

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Hope he misses weight again :OhYes:
I was in Germany a few weeks ago. Got plenty of water retention on the flight over.
wesshaw1985
Middleweight
Posts: 7483
Joined: 21 Jul 2013, 17:57

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Gallagher Believes Smith Can Emulate Groves Success Story - See more at: http://www.BS.com/gallagher-be ... M6l0w.dpuf
JimJim2009
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3125
Joined: 10 Nov 2008, 09:48

Re: Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

Post by JimJim2009 »

emallini wrote:The Paul Smith hate is so effing boring, I hope he wins.
x2. Yes the title opportunity is undeserved but you can't hold it against him for accepting it. Yes it's for a crap title but you can't hold it against him for going ahead anyway, its the best opportunity he'll get.

Paul Smith has faced Andre Ward, Abrahams twice - all on away soil - as well as DeGale and Groves. You can't question his heart, he gets in the ring with these top fighters and gives his best. I accept he's not beaten good class opposition to get another world title opportunity but in this age of multiple world champions, some fighters do get second and third bites of the cherry and thanks to his promoter, Smith has Sky behind him to pay for the rights to UK coverage. It's appalling to learn that apparently the WBA will rank a fighter on demand, but Smith hasn't made up that rule, nor does he control Sky TV. This will be his last big opportunity and I wish him well :TU:
Post Reply