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Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 08 Jun 2017, 19:07
by boxing_rocks
Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 08 Jun 2017, 19:27
by Tarkus
boxing_rocks wrote:Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.
Gang leaders have Russian citizenship not Georgian, even if they are Georgian decent. From the start of 2000s the new Georgian government instituted zero tolerance policy against criminal world. As a result most of the hard criminals left country to Russia where crime world is tolerated and elsewhere. I think if Georgian dont tolerate their criminals neither should Americans.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 08 Jun 2017, 19:31
by boxing_rocks
Tarkus wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.
Gang leaders have Russian citizenship not Georgian, even if they are Georgian decent. From the start of 2000s the new Georgian government instituted zero tolerance policy against criminal world. As a result most of the hard criminals left country to Russia where crime world is tolerated and elsewhere. I think if Georgian dont tolerate their criminals neither should Americans.
Saakhashvili goverment which declared the war on crime was then replaced with a "normal" post-Soviet corrupt government.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 08 Jun 2017, 19:39
by Tarkus
boxing_rocks wrote:
Tarkus wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.
Gang leaders have Russian citizenship not Georgian, even if they are Georgian decent. From the start of 2000s the new Georgian government instituted zero tolerance policy against criminal world. As a result most of the hard criminals left country to Russia where crime world is tolerated and elsewhere. I think if Georgian dont tolerate their criminals neither should Americans.
Saakhashvili goverment which declared the war on crime was then replaced with a "normal" post-Soviet corrupt government.
Not true. Some of the reforms were relaxed, but in general system established during Saakashvili rule stands. Georgia is one of the least criminal country in the world, and corruption is comparable to average EU level.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 12:52
by boxing_rocks
I am surprised that there isn't news yet about ties of that Russian crime ring to Trump :lol:

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 13:02
by diddy
boxing_rocks wrote:Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. Foreignors are often permitted to enter this country and permitted to pay little to zero taxes for 7 years. That is what I'm talking about. They come here, get afforded the opportunity of a lifetime, dont have to pay taxes like people that are born here do AND litter society with crime. It's a double negative.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 13:36
by boxing_rocks
diddy wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. Foreignors are often permitted to enter this country and permitted to pay little to zero taxes for 7 years. That is what I'm talking about. They come here, get afforded the opportunity of a lifetime, dont have to pay taxes like people that are born here do AND litter society with crime. It's a double negative.
If you live and work here, you have to pay taxes regardless of your citizenship. It is where you spend most of a year which matters.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 21:22
by tonymaccaroni
I swear to god I would not be surprised if somehow Frank W arren had something to do with this by grassing him up the relevant agencies in the US.

Three out of the last four mandatories all now cancelled, BJS never wanted this fight in the first place and once again its conveniently over before it begins. Now he can take a shit replacement instead and then be still have the coveted zero in place so he can finally get the mega money fight against the winner of Canelo v GGG. How fornicating convenient, I hope they snub him for Jacobs or Lemieux rematches/ title shots depending on the victor.

Is this 100% confirmed by official ( I mean police statement ) sources. Honestly Frank W arren is so corrupt it is totally feasible that he has paid Khurtsidze off and feigned this entire thing. I dont like the wording either, he can't travel because of the RICO

This is either the most unlucky boxer in history or some god level match dodgery going on here.

Edit: Look at this shit....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... e-OFF.html

https://i.gyazo.com/acb06df97f78afbdb47 ... 3356ef.png

https://i.gyazo.com/3e1b781ca80d3bb2ae1 ... 1544f9.png

https://i.gyazo.com/0201885648167ceb4d4 ... 3e8f78.png

https://i.gyazo.com/02279d040a6b9aea9e4 ... 5ba280.png

I'm calling shenanigans idgaf.

Edit: Have been shown proof, will leave my wild conspiracy theories for others to laugh at, enjoy.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 21:38
by MachoTime
tonymaccaroni wrote:I swear to god I would not be surprised if somehow Frank W arren had something to do with this by grassing him up the relevant agencies in the US.

Three out of the last four mandatories all now cancelled, BJS never wanted this fight in the first place and once again its conveniently over before it begins. Now he can take a poo replacement instead and then be still have the coveted zero in place so he can finally get the mega money fight against the winner of Canelo v GGG. How effing convenient, I hope they snub him for Jacobs or Lemieux rematches/ title shots depending on the victor.

Is this 100% confirmed by official ( I mean police statement ) sources. Honestly Frank W arren is so corrupt it is totally feasible that he has paid Khurtsidze off and feigned this entire thing.

This is either the most unlucky boxer in history or some god level match dodgery going on here.
It's 100% real.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/me ... on-robbery

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 21:43
by boxing_rocks
MachoTime wrote:
tonymaccaroni wrote:I swear to god I would not be surprised if somehow Frank W arren had something to do with this by grassing him up the relevant agencies in the US.

Three out of the last four mandatories all now cancelled, BJS never wanted this fight in the first place and once again its conveniently over before it begins. Now he can take a poo replacement instead and then be still have the coveted zero in place so he can finally get the mega money fight against the winner of Canelo v GGG. How effing convenient, I hope they snub him for Jacobs or Lemieux rematches/ title shots depending on the victor.

Is this 100% confirmed by official ( I mean police statement ) sources. Honestly Frank W arren is so corrupt it is totally feasible that he has paid Khurtsidze off and feigned this entire thing.

This is either the most unlucky boxer in history or some god level match dodgery going on here.
It's 100% real.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/me ... on-robbery
Definitely Georgian dominated crime syndicate.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 09 Jun 2017, 21:44
by tonymaccaroni
MachoTime wrote:
tonymaccaroni wrote:I swear to god I would not be surprised if somehow Frank W arren had something to do with this by grassing him up the relevant agencies in the US.

Three out of the last four mandatories all now cancelled, BJS never wanted this fight in the first place and once again its conveniently over before it begins. Now he can take a poo replacement instead and then be still have the coveted zero in place so he can finally get the mega money fight against the winner of Canelo v GGG. How effing convenient, I hope they snub him for Jacobs or Lemieux rematches/ title shots depending on the victor.

Is this 100% confirmed by official ( I mean police statement ) sources. Honestly Frank W arren is so corrupt it is totally feasible that he has paid Khurtsidze off and feigned this entire thing.

This is either the most unlucky boxer in history or some god level match dodgery going on here.
It's 100% real.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/me ... on-robbery
Ok yeah thanks for proof. Honestly would not put anything past BJS and Fwank when it comes to avoiding fights.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 02:48
by Best Coast
Khurt should consider himself very fortunate. There was a more accomplished Russian boxer in the 1990s named Sergei Kobozev who had a brush with the Russian mob in NYC and got killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Kobozev
Sergey Kobozev (1964–1995) was a Russian boxer who defeated John Ruiz and was later murdered by Russian mafia.

The mystery surrounding his death was solved when his bones were found by the FBI in March 1999 in the backyard of the Russian Mafia's #2: Alexander Spitchenko in Livingston, New Jersey, United States where his body was buried in a shallow grave.[1]

Kobozev was allegedly murdered by two reputed Russian mobsters, Alexander Nosov and Vasiliy Ermichine. [2] Natan Gozman, a third defendant charged in the murder, remained a fugitive until February 2005, when he was arrested in Poland and extradited to New York, where he awaits trial.

Prosecutors said that the Russian mob allegedly turned against Kobozev because he worked as a part-time security guard at a Brooklyn restaurant from which Nosov was ejected after a fight with a musician. Several days after the fight, the defendants and a third member of the gang unexpectedly encountered Kobozev at a car repair shop, where they confronted him about the fight before Nosov shot him, authorities said. Still alive, Kobozev was put in a jeep and driven to the Livingston, N.J., home of a high-ranking member of the crime group, where his neck was broken by Ermichine after Kobozev asked to be taken to a hospital, prosecutors said.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 03:08
by Freedom2013
diddy wrote:Filthy Russians. Keep this BS over in your own country. Come here, don't pay taxes, and do this nonsense. Get lost.
Khurtsidze is not Russian.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 10:31
by boxing_rocks
Freedom2013 wrote:
diddy wrote:Filthy Russians. Keep this BS over in your own country. Come here, don't pay taxes, and do this nonsense. Get lost.
Khurtsidze is not Russian.
About 3/4 of the gang are Georgians.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 13 Jun 2017, 15:01
by DaveyMac
diddy wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Criminals don't pay full taxes regardless of their ethnicity.

How do you know that it is actually a Russian gang? Ukranians and Georgians speak Russian to each other, and police could be calling them Russians. Actually, Georgians had a very disproportionally high share among top criminal leaders in the Soviet Union.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. Foreignors are often permitted to enter this country and permitted to pay little to zero taxes for 7 years. That is what I'm talking about. They come here, get afforded the opportunity of a lifetime, dont have to pay taxes like people that are born here do AND litter society with crime. It's a double negative.
Simply not true, in fact foreign boxers pay at a very high rate and it's automatically deducted.

Re: Khurt is arrested. BJS fight is off.

Posted: 13 Jun 2017, 15:12
by darkstar81
I think BJS must have orchestrated this somehow so he could hold on to his belt and fight GGG/Canelo winner