Ward knew that he could not win legitimately. That's why he resorted to his tactics.NateJR wrote:Most were right on the beltline, I seen 2 shots that were clearly low, but nothing excessive enough that called for a DQ or even a point deduction. The stoppage was questionable, but Kovalev was in alot of trouble and if Weeks allowed the fight to continue, Ward was eventually going to put him down and knock Kovalev out. Glad Ward won and even happier to see all the whiney bitches on here crying because Ward won the fight.. Crazy how someone who can't punch like Ward had Kovalev on queer street stumping around the ring like Bambi.. lmao
Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Of what? Landing slightly low blows that he was warned about. That isn't what had Kovalev rocking. It was the body work and the right hand and left hook that shook him up. Attempting to place this solely on low blows is disingenuous and shows you either weren't really watching the fight or weren't paying attention. Ward was taking him apart bit by bit. I'm annoyed it ended controversially as it should be one of the best performances of the year.RScarf1 wrote:Ward knew that he could not win legitimately. That's why he resorted to his tactics.NateJR wrote:Most were right on the beltline, I seen 2 shots that were clearly low, but nothing excessive enough that called for a DQ or even a point deduction. The stoppage was questionable, but Kovalev was in alot of trouble and if Weeks allowed the fight to continue, Ward was eventually going to put him down and knock Kovalev out. Glad Ward won and even happier to see all the whiney bitches on here crying because Ward won the fight.. Crazy how someone who can't punch like Ward had Kovalev on queer street stumping around the ring like Bambi.. lmao
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
It was a close fight on the scorecards at the time of stoppage. If Ward was so sure that he would win, then why jeopardize that with throwing borderline low blows? Ward admitted to the borderline low blows after the fight
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
He threw them, because he knew that he wouldn't be punished for that.RScarf1 wrote:It was a close fight on the scorecards at the time of stoppage. If Ward was so sure that he would win, then why jeopardize that with throwing borderline low blows? Ward admitted to the borderline low blows after the fight
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Wasn't Kovalev warned for dirty/illegal tactics during the fight? Hitting behind the head and putting Ward in a headlock? Just saying it wasn't a one side dirty affair like most make it out to be.
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SOGgy is honest. The Russian Whiner and his apologists? Not so much.RScarf1 wrote:It was a close fight on the scorecards at the time of stoppage. If Ward was so sure that he would win, then why jeopardize that with throwing borderline low blows? Ward admitted to the borderline low blows after the fight
I feel cheated by Weeks. SOGgy was in the process of executing a comprehensive beatdown on the Russian Whiner and panty twisted fanbase.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
As was stated many times here, Kovalev is scared shitless of body shots and once again fought like it. A couple low blows seem to be masking the truth, Sergey was on his way out. He was fading even faster than last time, did not have a huge points lead like last time, and was not hurting Ward at all really while Ward was definitely hurting him.
Mickey Ward got hit with ONE low blow that was harder than all the legitimately low ones Kov got hit with put together, Mickey got up no rest and won a grueling fight. Kovalev gave in and was stopped immediately. Fact is Sergey was never as tough as the fluffers made him out to be, has 2 losses now to a superior fighter, and all the emotionally driven hate towards Andre makes this so sweet. You guys were wrong, any way ya slice it you were wrong.
You deserve this, Duva the cuntress deserves this, and the mouthy shithead Kovalev definitely deserved this. Ok, back to the all crying hour.
Mickey Ward got hit with ONE low blow that was harder than all the legitimately low ones Kov got hit with put together, Mickey got up no rest and won a grueling fight. Kovalev gave in and was stopped immediately. Fact is Sergey was never as tough as the fluffers made him out to be, has 2 losses now to a superior fighter, and all the emotionally driven hate towards Andre makes this so sweet. You guys were wrong, any way ya slice it you were wrong.
You deserve this, Duva the cuntress deserves this, and the mouthy shithead Kovalev definitely deserved this. Ok, back to the all crying hour.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Tanzio wrote:SOGgy is honest. The Russian Whiner and his apologists? Not so much.RScarf1 wrote:It was a close fight on the scorecards at the time of stoppage. If Ward was so sure that he would win, then why jeopardize that with throwing borderline low blows? Ward admitted to the borderline low blows after the fight
I feel cheated by Weeks. SOGgy was in the process of executing a comprehensive beatdown on the Russian Whiner and panty twisted fanbase.
I agree. It would take nothing short of an absolute beatdown, cold KO, to get Kovalev fans to actually admit their guy lost legitimately. I have heard very little about the straight punch that turned Kovalev's legs into jello, delivered by the guy that hits like a girl.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
A cold KO after so many low blows wouldn't change a thing. When one side is given such a huge advantage in a close fight, a KO is not a surprise.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
asdfjkl wrote:Lol, Ward could easely hit him in his face, but no, he went all the way for his balls. Also, Kovalev was only bending because of the other low blows early in the same round, when the ref said come on, go on!BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.
So can a guy who is hurt to the body do that to limit any body punches?
No, you just get hit a little low for bending like that.
Kovalev was yielding to pressure at the time of the stoppage.
Stop making excuses.
Dude was gassing from the 3rd.
Max and Roy were calling it (which ended up being the truth),
while many of you were chasing Lederman's fantasy card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzvtNCX3vP8
8th: Around 30:27 Ward hits Kovalev again full in his balls, and you see him thinking, poo, now I went to far I'm probably losing a point on that one. But no?! The refs says come on! Go on! Allmost like a supporter!
The fight goes on to everyone's surprise and Kovalev has no option left but knowing that his opponent will get away with ballblows. Kovalev visably has pain in his balls and that's also basically the only thing he protects and also the only thing Ward focusses on. Then the refs suddenly waves the fight off! Saying Ward is the winner?!
That's ridiculous and a massive plot twist.
Around 32:21 / 32:22 even Ward's own wife says "just fight" thinking her husband is disqualified like he should be, around 32:35 somehow she seems to realise that he isn't disqualified, but awarded beïng the winner instead!
Around 30:27, those are solid body shots right on the beltline, which were deemed to be legal blows right before the fight due to where Kovalev's trunks were. Thanks for posting and thinking like this because it backs up what I said all along. Most of these punches were legal shots landed. Out of the last 3, that last one was low though. Kovalev was already done at that point. A 10 minute rest would make no difference.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Kovalev and his "comedy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7yTePokImo Those two shots were barely "low blows".
Kovalev fights dirty too and lands low blows but Ward seems to have iron balls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV6iDNUnO5k
Kovalev fights dirty too and lands low blows but Ward seems to have iron balls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV6iDNUnO5k
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Please look again ?? 3 shots that were too low and the latest one clearly hurted Kovalev's his balls. Now I watch it again, listen to what the referee says, "stand, stand" and he advices Ward to hit him "on the beltline"!armageto wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Lol, Ward could easely hit him in his face, but no, he went all the way for his balls. Also, Kovalev was only bending because of the other low blows early in the same round, when the ref said come on, go on!BAD INTENTIONS wrote:When someone is bent at an almost 90 degree angle, it's almost impossible to not punch a little low from certain angles.
So can a guy who is hurt to the body do that to limit any body punches?
No, you just get hit a little low for bending like that.
Kovalev was yielding to pressure at the time of the stoppage.
Stop making excuses.
Dude was gassing from the 3rd.
Max and Roy were calling it (which ended up being the truth),
while many of you were chasing Lederman's fantasy card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzvtNCX3vP8
8th: Around 30:27 Ward hits Kovalev again full in his balls, and you see him thinking, poo, now I went to far I'm probably losing a point on that one. But no?! The refs says come on! Go on! Allmost like a supporter!
The fight goes on to everyone's surprise and Kovalev has no option left but knowing that his opponent will get away with ballblows. Kovalev visably has pain in his balls and that's also basically the only thing he protects and also the only thing Ward focusses on. Then the refs suddenly waves the fight off! Saying Ward is the winner?!
That's ridiculous and a massive plot twist.
Around 32:21 / 32:22 even Ward's own wife says "just fight" thinking her husband is disqualified like he should be, around 32:35 somehow she seems to realise that he isn't disqualified, but awarded beïng the winner instead!
Around 30:27, those are solid body shots right on the beltline, which were deemed to be legal blows right before the fight due to where Kovalev's trunks were. Thanks for posting and thinking like this because it backs up what I said all along. Most of these punches were legal shots landed. Out of the last 3, that last one was low though. Kovalev was already done at that point. A 10 minute rest would make no difference.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Some of them were unquestionably below the belt, but not necessarily hitting Kovalev in the genitals (but maybe). A lot of the body blows in the 8th round that had Kovalev badly staggering were legit body blows that only seemed like fouls because he was so legitimately hurt to the body (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Kovalev had an abdominal tear). As far as the final 3 punches that ended the fight, it's honestly impossible to say where they landed, because even in slow motion, Ward's hand was WAY too fast for the camera to capture. Given that Kovalev was hunched forward and Kovalev was throwing uppercuts, it's most likely that they were landing somewhere in Kovalev's upper abdomen.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
I'm referring to you 30:27, neither of those two shots were low. Kovalev was getting hurt by every body shot he took and was trying to milk them all for being low blows. As for the end of the fight, on a different replay the three punches looked legal, borderline, and low, in that order. I'm assuming Weeks didn't see the last one being low. If that is the case, I wish he would have given him a standing 8 count at least.asdfjkl wrote:Please look again ?? 3 shots that were too low and the latest one clearly hurted Kovalev's his balls. Now I watch it again, listen to what the referee says, "stand, stand" and he advices Ward to hit him "on the beltline"!armageto wrote:asdfjkl wrote: Lol, Ward could easely hit him in his face, but no, he went all the way for his balls. Also, Kovalev was only bending because of the other low blows early in the same round, when the ref said come on, go on!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzvtNCX3vP8
8th: Around 30:27 Ward hits Kovalev again full in his balls, and you see him thinking, poo, now I went to far I'm probably losing a point on that one. But no?! The refs says come on! Go on! Allmost like a supporter!
The fight goes on to everyone's surprise and Kovalev has no option left but knowing that his opponent will get away with ballblows. Kovalev visably has pain in his balls and that's also basically the only thing he protects and also the only thing Ward focusses on. Then the refs suddenly waves the fight off! Saying Ward is the winner?!
That's ridiculous and a massive plot twist.
Around 32:21 / 32:22 even Ward's own wife says "just fight" thinking her husband is disqualified like he should be, around 32:35 somehow she seems to realise that he isn't disqualified, but awarded beïng the winner instead!
Around 30:27, those are solid body shots right on the beltline, which were deemed to be legal blows right before the fight due to where Kovalev's trunks were. Thanks for posting and thinking like this because it backs up what I said all along. Most of these punches were legal shots landed. Out of the last 3, that last one was low though. Kovalev was already done at that point. A 10 minute rest would make no difference.
I'll be the first to admit that last shot was low. People need to admit that wasn't the reason Kovalev was out of gas or was getting battered around the ring. He was spent. He has zero stoppages past the 8th round. The fight was lost for him way before that last low blow.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
All shots are clearly below the navel right?armageto wrote:I'm referring to you 30:27, neither of those two shots were low. Kovalev was getting hurt by every body shot he took and was trying to milk them all for being low blows. As for the end of the fight, on a different replay the three punches looked legal, borderline, and low, in that order. I'm assuming Weeks didn't see the last one being low. If that is the case, I wish he would have given him a standing 8 count at least.asdfjkl wrote:Please look again ?? 3 shots that were too low and the latest one clearly hurted Kovalev's his balls. Now I watch it again, listen to what the referee says, "stand, stand" and he advices Ward to hit him "on the beltline"!armageto wrote:
Around 30:27, those are solid body shots right on the beltline, which were deemed to be legal blows right before the fight due to where Kovalev's trunks were. Thanks for posting and thinking like this because it backs up what I said all along. Most of these punches were legal shots landed. Out of the last 3, that last one was low though. Kovalev was already done at that point. A 10 minute rest would make no difference.
I'll be the first to admit that last shot was low. People need to admit that wasn't the reason Kovalev was out of gas or was getting battered around the ring. He was spent. He has zero stoppages past the 8th round. The fight was lost for him way before that last low blow.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Are you referring to 30:27 of the video? If do, those are clean punches. Weeks had already clarified that due to where Kovalev's trunks were, belt line shots would be considered legal. Those two punches were legal. All the tremendous body shots he hit him with before that last exchange in that round were legal. In that last exchange, that last show was clearly low. Low blows aren't what brought Kovalev to that point. That big right hand shot and viscous body punches were.asdfjkl wrote:All shots are clearly below the navel right?armageto wrote:I'm referring to you 30:27, neither of those two shots were low. Kovalev was getting hurt by every body shot he took and was trying to milk them all for being low blows. As for the end of the fight, on a different replay the three punches looked legal, borderline, and low, in that order. I'm assuming Weeks didn't see the last one being low. If that is the case, I wish he would have given him a standing 8 count at least.asdfjkl wrote: Please look again ?? 3 shots that were too low and the latest one clearly hurted Kovalev's his balls. Now I watch it again, listen to what the referee says, "stand, stand" and he advices Ward to hit him "on the beltline"!
I'll be the first to admit that last shot was low. People need to admit that wasn't the reason Kovalev was out of gas or was getting battered around the ring. He was spent. He has zero stoppages past the 8th round. The fight was lost for him way before that last low blow.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Where is the correct choice in the poll----- ON the beltline.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
All shots are clearly below the navel right?armageto wrote:Are you referring to 30:27 of the video? If do, those are clean punches. Weeks had already clarified that due to where Kovalev's trunks were, belt line shots would be considered legal. Those two punches were legal. All the tremendous body shots he hit him with before that last exchange in that round were legal. In that last exchange, that last show was clearly low. Low blows aren't what brought Kovalev to that point. That big right hand shot and viscous body punches were.asdfjkl wrote:All shots are clearly below the navel right?armageto wrote:
I'm referring to you 30:27, neither of those two shots were low. Kovalev was getting hurt by every body shot he took and was trying to milk them all for being low blows. As for the end of the fight, on a different replay the three punches looked legal, borderline, and low, in that order. I'm assuming Weeks didn't see the last one being low. If that is the case, I wish he would have given him a standing 8 count at least.
I'll be the first to admit that last shot was low. People need to admit that wasn't the reason Kovalev was out of gas or was getting battered around the ring. He was spent. He has zero stoppages past the 8th round. The fight was lost for him way before that last low blow.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
asdfjkl wrote:All shots are clearly below the navel right?armageto wrote:Are you referring to 30:27 of the video? If do, those are clean punches. Weeks had already clarified that due to where Kovalev's trunks were, belt line shots would be considered legal. Those two punches were legal. All the tremendous body shots he hit him with before that last exchange in that round were legal. In that last exchange, that last show was clearly low. Low blows aren't what brought Kovalev to that point. That big right hand shot and viscous body punches were.asdfjkl wrote: All shots are clearly below the navel right?
AGAIN, Weeks established what was a legal punch BEFORE the fight in due to Kovalev's trunks being high. So THAT made the belt line legal. SO the two punches you were complaining about at 30:27 ARE legal. That last punch WAS low. Low blows didn't bring Kovalev to that point.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
I was a Zab fan because he was funny.
When he lost to Khan, the punch was low.
I remember not getting mad because I knew Zab didn't want to fight. He gave in.
Kovalev gave in.
We should let Ward chill as a master ...
Kovalev should fight Stevenson next.
When he lost to Khan, the punch was low.
I remember not getting mad because I knew Zab didn't want to fight. He gave in.
Kovalev gave in.
We should let Ward chill as a master ...
Kovalev should fight Stevenson next.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Exactly how I see it.armageto wrote:AGAIN, Weeks established what was a legal punch BEFORE the fight in due to Kovalev's trunks being high. So THAT made the belt line legal. SO the two punches you were complaining about at 30:27 ARE legal. That last punch WAS low. Low blows didn't bring Kovalev to that point.
The ones that Ward landed at the end were a little low (none to the balls).
However, Kovalev was already done before that.
I am extremely impressed with Ward and Kovalev. I still think they are #1 and #2,
because of the gap between Kovalev and the rest of 175.
But, Ward is the better fighter of the two. Big deal.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
The second one was ridiculously low. That being said, kovalev was wilting before that. Fight sucked too much for me to complain with any passion.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Yeah. Also like me you probably recognize with the way Kovalev kept looking to the referee for help, he was pretty much looking like a beaten man anyway. Looking to the ref for help is usually what a guy does just before he calls it a night.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The second one was ridiculously low. That being said, kovalev was wilting before that. Fight sucked too much for me to complain with any passion.
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Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
Yeah, his entire make up was negative. I was sick of watching it by then anyway. Lolgilgamesh wrote:Yeah. Also like me you probably recognize with the way Kovalev kept looking to the referee for help, he was pretty much looking like a beaten man anyway. Looking to the ref for help is usually what a guy does just before he calls it a night.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The second one was ridiculously low. That being said, kovalev was wilting before that. Fight sucked too much for me to complain with any passion.
Re: Were Ward's controversial blows LEGAL or ILLEGAL?
He set himself up for failure, complaining too much on legal blows. When he actually got hit low, Weeks probably thought it was more acting and pulled the plug. Kovalev and Weeks both are responsible for the ending, no matter what Kovalev or his fans say....gilgamesh wrote:Yeah. Also like me you probably recognize with the way Kovalev kept looking to the referee for help, he was pretty much looking like a beaten man anyway. Looking to the ref for help is usually what a guy does just before he calls it a night.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The second one was ridiculously low. That being said, kovalev was wilting before that. Fight sucked too much for me to complain with any passion.