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If I remember right, I was the only one on the board that was pissing and moaning about Khan ending it illegally in the Judah fight. The difference is Khan won the first four rounds and everyone thought he would win easily. Khan wins the first few rounds against anyone almost, then gasses and gets KO'd. He held Juda's head down with his forearm and hit him low to end it. Not one person besides me on this board thought it should have been called. It fell on deaf ears. There was also very little outrage with Maidana vs Floyd in the first one. I guess if you hate the opponent, it magnifys it tenfold?

So hell no, no sympathy from me. Quit your crying folks, the better man won.

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
He's bent over double at the waist and you expect him to see exactly where they landed in real time? Kovalev didn't react to them being low either. It's easy with replays.

It's really hard to believe that on a boxing forum, full of dedicated boxing fans, there is a line of thinking that a referee, standing 2 meters away, shouldn't be held accountable for missing blatant low blows. If the referee is incapable of seeing shots that land below the belt then replace him with someone who can. Again, it's not rocket science.

He is bent over double. Kovalev does not react to them being low. You cannot expect a referee to make a call when he can't be sure. It was physically impossible for him to see where those shots landed where he was and how Kovalev was stood.

Ask yourself why didn't Kovalev just take the knee?

https://twitter.com/RingSide_TV/status/ ... 2204772353

What the fornicate is there not to be sure about!?! FFS, he's looking right at it!! It's as clear a blow as you'll ever see for fornicate sake.

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

It's really hard to believe that on a boxing forum, full of dedicated boxing fans, there is a line of thinking that a referee, standing 2 meters away, shouldn't be held accountable for missing blatant low blows. If the referee is incapable of seeing shots that land below the belt then replace him with someone who can. Again, it's not rocket science.

He is bent over double. Kovalev does not react to them being low. You cannot expect a referee to make a call when he can't be sure. It was physically impossible for him to see where those shots landed where he was and how Kovalev was stood.

Ask yourself why didn't Kovalev just take the knee?

https://twitter.com/RingSide_TV/status/ ... 2204772353

What the eff is there not to be sure about!?! FFS, he's looking right at it!! It's as clear a blow as you'll ever see for eff sake.

You're showing a slow motion replay of a shot that from his POV is obscured by Kovalev's arm. At full speed he can't know that's a low blow. Jesus, Ricky.

Ricky_ wrote:The whole idea that "kovalev was finished anyway" is such bullshit. If the ref in the AJ v Klitchko fight had stopped AJ in round 5, 6 or 7 everyone would say the same thing: "He was finished anyway". It's almost as if none of you have ever seen a guy ride a storm then find a second win. Happens all the time.

This isn't an argument to legitamize a garbage stoppage with.

boxing_rocks wrote:

greg wrote:breaking news:

"I stopped the fight due to Kovalev not protecting himself had I saw the shots were low I would not have stopped the fight. My mistake"

https://twitter.com/TonyWeeks_/status/8 ... 3862614016

Most likely, it is a fake account. Judges don't publicly accept their mistakes.

Jay Nady did after a blundered call in the MAB/Barrera fight.

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
He's bent over double at the waist and you expect him to see exactly where they landed in real time? Kovalev didn't react to them being low either. It's easy with replays.

It's really hard to believe that on a boxing forum, full of dedicated boxing fans, there is a line of thinking that a referee, standing 2 meters away, shouldn't be held accountable for missing blatant low blows. If the referee is incapable of seeing shots that land below the belt then replace him with someone who can. Again, it's not rocket science.

He is bent over double. Kovalev does not react to them being low. You cannot expect a referee to make a call when he can't be sure. It was physically impossible for him to see where those shots landed where he was and how Kovalev was stood.

Ask yourself why didn't Kovalev just take the knee?

The same reason his former teammate Korobov didn't against Lee -- they have never been taught that.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

It's really hard to believe that on a boxing forum, full of dedicated boxing fans, there is a line of thinking that a referee, standing 2 meters away, shouldn't be held accountable for missing blatant low blows. If the referee is incapable of seeing shots that land below the belt then replace him with someone who can. Again, it's not rocket science.

He is bent over double. Kovalev does not react to them being low. You cannot expect a referee to make a call when he can't be sure. It was physically impossible for him to see where those shots landed where he was and how Kovalev was stood.

Ask yourself why didn't Kovalev just take the knee?

The same reason his former teammate Korobov didn't against Lee -- they have never been taught that.

Well then when you bend over at the waist, take repeated shots and don't throw anything back since being buzzed don't expect the ref not to stop you.

Impractical Poster wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

greg wrote:breaking news:

"I stopped the fight due to Kovalev not protecting himself had I saw the shots were low I would not have stopped the fight. My mistake"

https://twitter.com/TonyWeeks_/status/8 ... 3862614016

Most likely, it is a fake account. Judges don't publicly accept their mistakes.

Jay Nady did after a blundered call in the MAB/Barrera fight.

Actually, it looks like a legit account with long history.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Most likely, it is a fake account. Judges don't publicly accept their mistakes.

Jay Nady did after a blundered call in the MAB/Barrera fight.

Actually, it looks like a legit account with long history.

Perhaps it is, but I can't the commission allowing him to come and say things like that.

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
He is bent over double. Kovalev does not react to them being low. You cannot expect a referee to make a call when he can't be sure. It was physically impossible for him to see where those shots landed where he was and how Kovalev was stood.

Ask yourself why didn't Kovalev just take the knee?

https://twitter.com/RingSide_TV/status/ ... 2204772353

What the eff is there not to be sure about!?! FFS, he's looking right at it!! It's as clear a blow as you'll ever see for eff sake.

You're showing a slow motion replay of a shot that from his POV is obscured by Kovalev's arm. At full speed he can't know that's a low blow. Jesus, Ricky.

Play it from the same angle in real time then. Anyone who can't recognize those shots as low in real time has no business being a boxing referee.

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:



https://twitter.com/RingSide_TV/status/ ... 2204772353

What the eff is there not to be sure about!?! FFS, he's looking right at it!! It's as clear a blow as you'll ever see for eff sake.

You're showing a slow motion replay of a shot that from his POV is obscured by Kovalev's arm. At full speed he can't know that's a low blow. Jesus, Ricky.

Play it from the same angle in real time then. Anyone who can't recognize those shots as low in real time has no business being a boxing referee.

The shots are obscured by his arm, and he does not react to them being low.

ward has always had the reputation of a dirty fighter that didn't change on saturday night

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
You're showing a slow motion replay of a shot that from his POV is obscured by Kovalev's arm. At full speed he can't know that's a low blow. Jesus, Ricky.

Play it from the same angle in real time then. Anyone who can't recognize those shots as low in real time has no business being a boxing referee.

The shots are obscured by his arm, and he does not react to them being low.

No it isn't, you can see from the replay the knuckle part of Wards glove landing on the 'B' on Kov's shorts, under his arm. He clearly winces in pain from the shot, looks like he yelps out.

This fight should be overturned to a NC on appeal.

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:
Play it from the same angle in real time then. Anyone who can't recognize those shots as low in real time has no business being a boxing referee.

The shots are obscured by his arm, and he does not react to them being low.

No it isn't, you can see from the replay the knuckle part of Wards glove landing on the 'B' on Kov's shorts, under his arm. He clearly winces in pain from the shot, looks like he yelps out.

This fight should be overturned to a NC on appeal.

Yes, it's quite obvious in SLOW MOTION.

Out of curiosity rick, seeing as his face is aimed away from the camera and you can't see his mouth how are you ascertaining that he helps out in pain?

Covfefe wrote:Out of curiosity rick, seeing as his face is aimed away from the camera and you can't see his mouth how are you ascertaining that he helps out in pain?

You can see Kovalev's mouth man... you need to go get your eyes tested man.

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:Out of curiosity rick, seeing as his face is aimed away from the camera and you can't see his mouth how are you ascertaining that he helps out in pain?

You can see Kovalev's mouth man... you need to go get your eyes tested man.

The gif you posted does not show his mouth. You're lying.

Mouth not visible.

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:Out of curiosity rick, seeing as his face is aimed away from the camera and you can't see his mouth how are you ascertaining that he helps out in pain?

You can see Kovalev's mouth man... you need to go get your eyes tested man.

The gif you posted does not show his mouth. You're lying.

I posted 2 GIFs

https://twitter.com/RingSide_TV/status/ ... 2204772353

Ricky_ wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

You can see Kovalev's mouth man... you need to go get your eyes tested man.

The gif you posted does not show his mouth. You're lying.

I posted 2 GIFs

https://twitter.com/RingSide_TV/status/ ... 2204772353

Yeah, fair enough you can see his mouth there.

Covfefe wrote:Why is no one blaming Kovalev for not throwing anything and standing bent over double doing nothing on the ropes? If he needed a break he should have taken a knee.

If he took a knee, the ref would have ruled it a knockdown because he did not consider the punches as low blows.

Covfefe wrote:Why is no one blaming Kovalev for not throwing anything and standing bent over double doing nothing on the ropes? If he needed a break he should have taken a knee.

I think they're more into blaming Ward on this forum. I thought the same about Kovalev, although you can't blame him for being hit low. The ref must have been unsighted for some reason, it's a bit disappointing especially at that level.

RScarf1 wrote:

Covfefe wrote:Why is no one blaming Kovalev for not throwing anything and standing bent over double doing nothing on the ropes? If he needed a break he should have taken a knee.

If he took a knee, the ref would have ruled it a knockdown because he did not consider the punches as low blows.

So? He would have had time to recover and not get stopped.

Noxy wrote:

Covfefe wrote:Why is no one blaming Kovalev for not throwing anything and standing bent over double doing nothing on the ropes? If he needed a break he should have taken a knee.

I think they're more into blaming Ward on this forum. I thought the same about Kovalev, although you can't blame him for being hit low. The ref must have been unsighted for some reason, it's a bit disappointing especially at that level.

It is, disappointing because it detracts from Ward's performance he was brilliant last night. And I think he would have gone on to stop Kovalev. It's a shame that it's become controversial.

Covfefe wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:

Covfefe wrote:Why is no one blaming Kovalev for not throwing anything and standing bent over double doing nothing on the ropes? If he needed a break he should have taken a knee.

If he took a knee, the ref would have ruled it a knockdown because he did not consider the punches as low blows.

So? He would have had time to recover and not get stopped.

10 seconds to recover and then Ward would be allowed to throw more low blows. He wanted the ref to react to low blows.