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greg wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:After having points deducted and being told the next low blows would result in a DQ

..shouldn't Golota have been declared a winner?

If only he had Tony Weeks officiating maybe he would've been

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That first one there that sideswipes the cup could potentially be the most brutal low blow in history. Poor Bowe, after getting greatly diminished by Holyfield from head blows he runs into Ric Flair.

Come on man...That's uncalled for.

Ric Flair always got away with his cheating, Golota was too stupid to do that. Give Flair a little more credit than that

dickbelden wrote:who is the dirtier fighter GOLOTA or WARD ? *

Every single person that voted for Andre Ward on this moronic poll are absolutely fúckíng stupid cúnts!

There was definitely something mentally wrong with Golota. IIRC, after his 1st round beat down from Lewis he had some sort of panic attack in dressing room.

It's insane that Golota lost both his fights to Bowe by DQ for low blows. And what about Bowe's corner. What a rough bunch those guys were. The Dirrell corner has assumed their duties these days....

greg wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:After having points deducted and being told the next low blows would result in a DQ

..shouldn't Golota have been declared a winner?

He didn't have the right referee who was paid to make him the winner, regardless of what rules were violated.

i first thought i go for golota of
course. then it occurred to me that
golota was looking for a way out,
while ward wants to win at all cost.
that makes a difference to me.

so i don't have a vote on this specific
question.

Freedom2013 wrote:https://twitter.com/juggalogt656/status ... 8680513537

So you didn't quit the forum?

You can't claim that you've not lied multiple times.

Golota was just nuts - plus there is a lot about his career that the public doesn't know. Also eventually Golota straightened out and legitimately won the heavyweight title with no monkey business - vs. both Byrd and Ruiz - despite being deliberately hounded by another rotten crook of a referee, like Weeks, Randy Neumann both times, and many other times as well - and what was with that anyway? - and both times when he beat Byrd and Ruiz he was robbed by the rotten crook judges. Ward is not nuts just a plain outright cheating dirty fighter.

Enlightened-One wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:https://twitter.com/juggalogt656/status ... 8680513537

So you didn't quit the forum?

You can't claim that you've not lied multiple times.

Where exactly did I say I was leaving this forum?

Stop lying! And stop being racist, in EVERY post you denigrate non-black boxers or their fans!

I said I was going to not follow boxing if Kovalev was robbed again, not the same as "leaving this forum" immediately. But too much racism in boxing, I won't be watching in the future and so will not comment on fights I haven't seen.

Freedom2013 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:https://twitter.com/juggalogt656/status ... 8680513537

So you didn't quit the forum?

You can't claim that you've not lied multiple times.

Where exactly did I say I was leaving this forum?

Stop lying! And stop being racist, in EVERY post you denigrate non-black boxers or their fans!

I said I was going to not follow boxing if Kovalev was robbed again, not the same as "leaving this forum" immediately. But too much racism in boxing, I won't be watching in the future and so will not comment on fights I haven't seen.

You can't seriously accuse me of being racist! The worst I've done is to quote verbatim the utterly vile and rancid words uttered by Kovalev and yourself!

I quoted at least half a dozen of your anti-American posts and you have also only very recently coined the phrase "not pro black".

If I've said something that could be construed as being racist (where I wasn't quoting someone else verbatim), then fückîng prove it!

You can't, because you're lying again.

And why the fûck would anyone continue to use the BoxRec "Current Scene" board, whilst openly admitting to no longer following the sport of boxing?

Since Kovalev lost, you've actually started submitting posts at a much faster rate, despite claiming that you'd rarely use the "Current Scene" board. Do you even remember the words that you type?

All you seem to do is lie and contradict yourself. Have you been to see a doctor recently, because I think you need to?

Kalan wrote:

greg wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:After having points deducted and being told the next low blows would result in a DQ

..shouldn't Golota have been declared a winner?

He didn't have the right referee who was paid to make him the winner, regardless of what rules were violated.

Not even close to the same type of shots SOGgy was hammering Krusher the Russhki Whiner with. SOGgy was on the beltline all night and the man of tough talk who was going to end the man from Oakland's career was found to be soft in the body.

The only cheating that took place was that SOGgy was cheated out of comprehensively beating the big talking bully to a pulp and I was deprived of savoring every second of it.

Ward is by far the dirtiest among p4p top 30.

boxing_rocks wrote:Ward is by far the dirtiest among p4p top 30.

Just another reason why SOGgy is #1 P4P, and the dirty talking Russian whiner is not. When the going gets tough, SOGgy digs in and fights like a pit dog, and Krusher curls up.

boxing_rocks wrote:Ward is by far the dirtiest among p4p top 30.

Lots of notoriously dirty fighters throughout the sports history.

Fritzie Zivic
Al "Bummy" Davis
Sandy Saddler
George "KO" Chaney
Mike Tyson
Terry Norris

After thorough research by the time you named 'em all I'm sure you could find much dirtier guys than Ward. People are prone to hyperbole these days.

The one that doesn't get disqualified for it is obviously the dirtiest.

I love Andrew Golota, he was one of my favorite fighters. He was one of the dirtiest fighters around though. I never liked Riddick Bowe and had a blast watching Golota light him legally...then the low blows came and the rest is history. Karma for Bowe after smacking Coetzers nuts around. Wish Golota hadn't went that route and actually won, but such is life.

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Ward is by far the dirtiest among p4p top 30.

Lots of notoriously dirty fighters throughout the sports history.

Fritzie Zivic
Al "Bummy" Davis
Sandy Saddler
George "KO" Chaney
Mike Tyson
Terry Norris

After thorough research by the time you named 'em all I'm sure you could find much dirtier guys than Ward. People are prone to hyperbole these days.

The top one I know of still has to be Mysterious Billy Smith.

I was talking about present top 30 p4p. Ward is the dirtiest top boxer, period.

boxing_rocks wrote:I was talking about present top 30 p4p. Ward is the dirtiest top boxer, period.

He's no worse than Porter or Salido.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:I was talking about present top 30 p4p. Ward is the dirtiest top boxer, period.

He's no worse than Porter or Salido.

Porter isn't nearly as dirty as Ward.

Salido is very dirty, but Ward is the undisputed king of illegal tactics.

Freedom2013 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:I was talking about present top 30 p4p. Ward is the dirtiest top boxer, period.

He's no worse than Porter or Salido.

Porter isn't nearly as dirty as Ward.

Salido is very dirty, but Ward is the undisputed king of illegal tactics.

That's exactly what I wanted to say. Porter is a pressure fighter like Maidana, maybe a cleaner version of Maidana.

Salido is not in my top 30.

Freedom2013 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYCydLqKIdU

Very good!