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I want Ward vs Bellew for the heavyweight championship of the world.

I think Beterbiev trashes Ward if they ever meet... Beterbiev has been kicked down stairs by Al Haymon.

Tarkus wrote:I want Ward vs Bellew for the heavyweight championship of the world.

Face it... Ward could beat a Heavyweight as inept as John Ruiz -- outbox him every round ... so could 7 or 8 Light Heavyweights.

I'd expect Usyk to win. For me the question is whether it would be by decision or stoppage.

Usyk would literally destroy Ward. Simply, he is bigger and better....

Usyk is definitely not better. The question is if is size and power advantage are enough to compensate that. Also, if Ward is allowed to freely punch Usyk's nuts, the outcome will be the same as with Kovalev.

boxing_rocks wrote:Usyk is definitely not better. The question is if is size and power advantage are enough to compensate that. Also, if Ward is allowed to freely punch Usyk's nuts, the outcome will be the same as with Kovalev.

Yes, Usyk is much bigger, and a little bit better than Ward, and I can not imagine Ward's attempts to hold and wrestle with Usyk, it would be useless. I do not want to think and write about low-blows, I am fed up.....

Tarkus wrote:I want Ward vs Bellew for the heavyweight championship of the world.

That would require either Bellew or Ward to actually hold a heavyweight championship of the world.

klitoris wrote:

Tarkus wrote:I want Ward vs Bellew for the heavyweight championship of the world.

That would require either Bellew or Ward to actually hold a heavyweight championship of the world.

1. I will spend next weekend with Monica Belluci.
2. Bellew and Ward will become HW champions.

Possibility = 0

Certainly far from 0% that Bellew can call himself a Heavyweight champion. For God's sake, Briggs or Oquendo was about to have that honor.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Certainly far from 0% that Bellew can call himself a Heavyweight champion. For God's sake, Briggs or Oquendo was about to have that honor.

WBA "Regular" or "Interim" straps don't count as real championships.

klitoris wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Certainly far from 0% that Bellew can call himself a Heavyweight champion. For God's sake, Briggs or Oquendo was about to have that honor.

WBA "Regular" or "Interim" straps don't count as real championships.

You said a championship, not the. I couldn't care less about any of them. They count them up, bellew could get one same as Charles Martin did.

klitoris wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Certainly far from 0% that Bellew can call himself a Heavyweight champion. For God's sake, Briggs or Oquendo was about to have that honor.

WBA "Regular" or "Interim" straps don't count as real championships.

Of course, don't count....

So what? Martin/glazkov was for a full title. He could beat either of them.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Certainly far from 0% that Bellew can call himself a Heavyweight champion. For God's sake, Briggs or Oquendo was about to have that honor.

I think both of them beat Bellew.

boxing_rocks wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Certainly far from 0% that Bellew can call himself a Heavyweight champion. For God's sake, Briggs or Oquendo was about to have that honor.

I think both of them beat Bellew.

Maybe, they're certainly not 100% favorites.

Making a pretty big assumption about ward at 200lb, but if he were fast and strong I'd say he could hustle a decision

Uh, Usyk would completely demoralize and destroy Ward. He'd also beat AJ in the same night too.

Top light heavyweights don't fight top cruiserweights very often, given the 25-pound weight difference. Would be stupid to do unless said light heavyweight starts by fighting intermediate-level competition and catchweights.

Usyk is "better" than Ward? Based on WHAT? Besides blind nationalism of course? You guys have to stop with this crap. He's
Bigger. Surely. Better? Stop with this nonsense. The only reason he could beat Ward is he might just be too big. There's reason there are weight classes. Ward just came up from super middleweight and now you want him fighting guys who will ultimately be heavyweights.

Lackeos wrote:Top light heavyweights don't fight top cruiserweights very often, given the 25-pound weight difference. Would be stupid to do unless said light heavyweight starts by fighting intermediate-level competition and catchweights.

That's what Ward did at LHW, and that's what I think he will do at CW. He will milk RNS fighting a couple of 200-lb nobodies and only then take on a top CW.

diddy wrote:Usyk is "better" than Ward? Based on WHAT? Besides blind nationalism of course? You guys have to stop with this crap. He's
Bigger. Surely. Better? Stop with this nonsense. The only reason he could beat Ward is he might just be too big. There's reason there are weight classes. Ward just came up from super middleweight and now you want him fighting guys who will ultimately be heavyweights.

If anything, an eye test says that Usyk is worse in every aspect (except punching power and possibly chin), even in punching technique.

These friggin euros are always looking to the "next one" as "the guy". It's funny.

Give Ward his due. You may not like him for your own reasons but he's a marvelous fighter. He's Floyd Mayweather without the outside the ring baggage.

Ward has beaten a who's who of opponents.

diddy wrote:These friggin euros are always looking to the "next one" as "the guy". It's funny.

Give Ward his due. You may not like him for your own reasons but he's a marvelous fighter. He's Floyd Mayweather without the outside the ring baggage.

Ward has beaten a who's who of opponents.

I wouldn't compare him to Floyd. Young Floyd was a killer. Ward has always been a boring one.

ValMar wrote:

klitoris wrote:

Tarkus wrote:I want Ward vs Bellew for the heavyweight championship of the world.

That would require either Bellew or Ward to actually hold a heavyweight championship of the world.

1. I will spend next weekend with Monica Belluci.
2. Bellew and Ward will become HW champions.

Possibility = 0

My point exactly.