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Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 17:10
by asdfjkl
candyslim wrote:Ok. I'll be sure to ask Shannon next time I bump into him, We use the same dealer in case you were wondering ;-)
I didn't even know Shannon could drive a car, still remarkeble you met him buying a car at the cardealer and expect it to happen again.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 17:14
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote:
candyslim wrote:Ok. I'll be sure to ask Shannon next time I bump into him, We use the same dealer in case you were wondering ;-)
I didn't even know Shannon could drive a car, still remarkeble you met him buying a car at the cardealer and expect it to happen again.
Pretty remarkable you heard dealer and thought "cardealer" :lol:

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 18:47
by marvelous marv
Negron is 6'6 a very large heavy with power. Fights similar to Breazeale. He was the A side of the fight the Rossy fight. Not sure how he ever made cruiser but he won't be going down to that weight ever again. He is a handful for any heavyweight and I expect him to be ranked soon.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 00:00
by asdfjkl
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
candyslim wrote:Ok. I'll be sure to ask Shannon next time I bump into him, We use the same dealer in case you were wondering ;-)
I didn't even know Shannon could drive a car, still remarkeble you met him buying a car at the cardealer and expect it to happen again.
Pretty remarkable you heard dealer and thought "cardealer" :lol:
What's remarkeble about that :s

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 02:23
by candyslim
I deliberately left it open about "dealer" I definitely wouldn't want Briggs mad at me :D

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 02:42
by asdfjkl
candyslim wrote:I deliberately left it open about "dealer" I definitely wouldn't want Briggs mad at me :D
Briggs just likes fame and shows all about his life on dayly base, so I don't think he'll have any problems with it.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 10:57
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I didn't even know Shannon could drive a car, still remarkeble you met him buying a car at the cardealer and expect it to happen again.
Pretty remarkable you heard dealer and thought "cardealer" :lol:
What's remarkeble about that :s
In the States, most of the time dealer refers to a drug dealer.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 12:03
by asdfjkl
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Pretty remarkable you heard dealer and thought "cardealer" :lol:
What's remarkeble about that :s
In the States, most of the time dealer refers to a drug dealer.
I don't think Briggs does such things, especially with his history, but casuals probably don't have a clue about that.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 12:27
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: What's remarkeble about that :s
In the States, most of the time dealer refers to a drug dealer.
I don't think Briggs does such things, especially with his history, but casuals probably don't have a clue about that.
He definitely has been on Steroids before, and I'd be quite surprised if he's never had the occasional joint in his life.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:22
by asdfjkl
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
In the States, most of the time dealer refers to a drug dealer.
I don't think Briggs does such things, especially with his history, but casuals probably don't have a clue about that.
He definitely has been on Steroids before, and I'd be quite surprised if he's never had the occasional joint in his life.
His parents were drugsaddicts, he was born as a 2 pound baby with underdeveloped lungs, he took testosterone as a part to help with his asm problems, that's also why he had a positive test and that's also why he appeals. If you're born as a baby with addicted parents you don't touch such stuff, ask Zlatan, ask Briggs whenever you meet him.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 01:40
by asdfjkl
world ranked wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Hughie vs Parker is now scheduled at 23/9, so I assume Wilder vs Stiverne will be scheduled around early december to waste as much time as possible again.

I hope Stiverne will survive, even though I expect him to lose against most rank 200 ish cruiserweights.
I think your clearly overblowing how bad Stiverne is.
26 june, I hope you're right.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:32
by Lackeos
You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that boxing deaths are common and can be predicted in advance. Both of those things are false. Also, Stiverne's lack of motivation these past few years implies that he's unlikely to try to gut out a win against Wilder, so he'll probably go out easy in 7 or 8 rounds without taking anything close to a life-threatening beating.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 00:20
by ldlamb
I would be more worried about guys like this, than the Stivernes of the world.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/353826

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 11:55
by asdfjkl
ldlamb wrote:I would be more worried about guys like this, than the Stivernes of the world.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/353826
He once won against
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/353825

But indeed remarkeble.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 12:17
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote: His parents were drugsaddicts, he was born as a 2 pound baby with underdeveloped lungs, he took testosterone as a part to help with his asm problems, that's also why he had a positive test and that's also why he appeals. If you're born as a baby with addicted parents you don't touch such stuff, ask Zlatan, ask Briggs whenever you meet him.
I'm sure every single athlete that has ever lived that has tested positive for a Performance Enhancing Drugs would lie to you, and tell you they've never took the stuff.

Or at least 95% of 'em.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 14:28
by Tony1244
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I don't think Briggs does such things, especially with his history, but casuals probably don't have a clue about that.
He definitely has been on Steroids before, and I'd be quite surprised if he's never had the occasional joint in his life.
His parents were drugsaddicts, he was born as a 2 pound baby with underdeveloped lungs, he took testosterone as a part to help with his asm problems, that's also why he had a positive test and that's also why he appeals. If you're born as a baby with addicted parents you don't touch such stuff, ask Zlatan, ask Briggs whenever you meet him.

I've met people who've met Briggs, and Shannon likes the cannabis. He also tested positive for PEDs. Perhaps he kept away from heroin, coke.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 14:35
by asdfjkl
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
He definitely has been on Steroids before, and I'd be quite surprised if he's never had the occasional joint in his life.
His parents were drugsaddicts, he was born as a 2 pound baby with underdeveloped lungs, he took testosterone as a part to help with his asm problems, that's also why he had a positive test and that's also why he appeals. If you're born as a baby with addicted parents you don't touch such stuff, ask Zlatan, ask Briggs whenever you meet him.

I've met people who've met Briggs, and Shannon likes the cannabis. He also tested positive for PEDs. Perhaps he kept away from heroin, coke.
Doesn't make him a dealer, still, he did took something he wasn't allowed to and he shouldn't have. So I'd have to admit, Briggs downgraded a lot for me since he did that. I still think he could have beated guys like Stiverne easely without it. I'm really disappointed in Briggs, he used to be the guy that had a serious chance to create a great boxing story and I feel really sad it had to turn this way.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 14:43
by Tony1244
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: His parents were drugsaddicts, he was born as a 2 pound baby with underdeveloped lungs, he took testosterone as a part to help with his asm problems, that's also why he had a positive test and that's also why he appeals. If you're born as a baby with addicted parents you don't touch such stuff, ask Zlatan, ask Briggs whenever you meet him.

I've met people who've met Briggs, and Shannon likes the cannabis. He also tested positive for PEDs. Perhaps he kept away from heroin, coke.
Doesn't make him a dealer, still, he did took something he wasn't allowed to and he shouldn't have. So I'd have to admit, Briggs downgraded a lot for me since he did that. I still think he could have beated guys like Stiverne easely without it. I'm really disappointed in Briggs, he used to be the guy that had a serious chance to create a great boxing story and I feel really sad it had to turn this way.

Never called him a dealer. I didn't participate in that part of the discussion. Interesting how you believe in Briggs' PED guilt but not Ortiz' or Povetkin's.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 15:34
by asdfjkl
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:

I've met people who've met Briggs, and Shannon likes the cannabis. He also tested positive for PEDs. Perhaps he kept away from heroin, coke.
Doesn't make him a dealer, still, he did took something he wasn't allowed to and he shouldn't have. So I'd have to admit, Briggs downgraded a lot for me since he did that. I still think he could have beated guys like Stiverne easely without it. I'm really disappointed in Briggs, he used to be the guy that had a serious chance to create a great boxing story and I feel really sad it had to turn this way.
Never called him a dealer. I didn't participate in that part of the discussion. Interesting how you believe in Briggs' PED guilt but not Ortiz' or Povetkin's.
Ortiz has been tested by vada for years, never any problems and now all of a sudden the medicines he's taking for years aren't allowed any more? It's a joke, an expected joke. Povetkin had an absolute microdosis left like 6 months after taking meldonium, a substance where hasn't even been proven from that it has any positive effects at all for a boxer. And Wilder and his team knew this months beforehand as well, according to nowadays standards, which proves that Povetkin was right all the time, the amount Povetkin had left 4 months after the ban would still be allowed two years after the ban date. Stiverne, a drugs user who skipped his last dopingtestdate that I know of, even ducked him as well, while Povetkin his team proved there was nothing that wasn't allowed in Povetkin's body at all. But it simply got ignored and retarded brainwashed Americans keep continuing to act like these innocent victims did anything wrong.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 15:55
by Tony1244
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Doesn't make him a dealer, still, he did took something he wasn't allowed to and he shouldn't have. So I'd have to admit, Briggs downgraded a lot for me since he did that. I still think he could have beated guys like Stiverne easely without it. I'm really disappointed in Briggs, he used to be the guy that had a serious chance to create a great boxing story and I feel really sad it had to turn this way.
Never called him a dealer. I didn't participate in that part of the discussion. Interesting how you believe in Briggs' PED guilt but not Ortiz' or Povetkin's.
Ortiz has been tested by vada for years, never any problems and now all of a sudden the medicines he's taking for years aren't allowed any more? It's a joke, an expected joke. Povetkin had an absolute microdosis left like 6 months after taking meldonium, a substance where hasn't even been proven from that it has any positive effects at all for a boxer. And Wilder and his team knew this months beforehand as well, according to nowadays standards, which proves that Povetkin was right all the time, the amount Povetkin had left 4 months after the ban would still be allowed two years after the ban date. Stiverne, a drugs user who skipped his last dopingtestdate that I know of, even ducked him as well, while Povetkin his team proved there was nothing that wasn't allowed in Povetkin's body at all. But it simply got ignored and retarded brainwashed Americans keep continuing to act like these innocent victims did anything wrong.

:lol:

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 18:42
by Lackeos
ldlamb wrote:I would be more worried about guys like this, than the Stivernes of the world.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/353826
The combined record of the 20 opponents he's beaten is: 0-2

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 10 Oct 2017, 16:53
by asdfjkl
Nice troll WBC, they are not worried about Stiverne his health, but they now admit Ortiz is innocent, but say with that that they are worried about his health.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 23:56
by asdfjkl
I just heard I was right again, ko 1 win for Wilder, but I haven't seen the match. Is Stiverne still alive?

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 00:01
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote: 04 Nov 2017, 23:56 I just heard I was right again, ko 1 win for Wilder, but I haven't seen the match. Is Stiverne still alive?

Yeah he's fine, just got shook up a little. Happens when you don't train at all.

Re: Stiverne fighting still save?

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 00:12
by asdfjkl
gilgamesh wrote: 05 Nov 2017, 00:01
asdfjkl wrote: 04 Nov 2017, 23:56 I just heard I was right again, ko 1 win for Wilder, but I haven't seen the match. Is Stiverne still alive?

Yeah he's fine, just got shook up a little. Happens when you don't train at all.
Happy to hear that, I still think it's ridiculous from the WBC, but I'm happy Wilder is not that heavy fisted.