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Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:38
by crusader
Your failure to address them shows me they're not crap :TU:

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:42
by Horse
crusader wrote:Your failure to address them shows me they're not crap :TU:
Kovalev ducked Stevenson. Stevenson did not duck Kovalev.

Kovalev running away to cruiserweight is a puss move and everyone knows it.

Either fight Stevenson or retire.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:46
by crusader
Another argument duck from Horse

Stevenson already has a mandatory, and he hasn't faced him despite the fight being ordered for two years. Further, one fighter withdrawing from a purse bid does not mean the other fighter was actually going to take the bout. Kov has just been in fights with someone who is better than Adonis and anyone Adonis has faced, while Stevenson has spent the last few years bottomfeeding. If there is someone who needs to man up, it's Stevenson, and at nearly 40 he should do it quickly.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:49
by Horse
crusader wrote:Another argument duck from Horse

Stevenson already has a mandatory, and he hasn't faced him despite the fight being ordered for two years. Further, one fighter withdrawing from a purse bid does not mean the other fighter was actually going to take the bout. Kov has just been in fights with someone who is better than Adonis and anyone Adonis has faced, while Stevenson has spent the last few years bottomfeeding. If there is someone who needs to man up, it's Stevenson, and at nearly 40 he should do it quickly.
Kovalev is afraid of Stevenson, because he thinks that he will spark him senseless.

Stevenson's recent career silliness should not excuse Kovalev from being a goddamned chicken!

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:51
by chinarich
Ossyrules wrote:
chinarich wrote:Smart move to move up, I mean, he just got stopped by a SMW...
I think ward has looked stronger at 175 than he did at 168
The sarcasm in my post is still valid...

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:53
by Horse
chinarich wrote:The sarcasm in my post is still valid...
Yeah, Kovalev is a massive chicken.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:56
by crusader
Why the silliness if Adonis is actually willing to fight elite opposition? He won't even fight the decent B-level guy who has been his mandatory for two years.

Kov has fought someone better than Adonis and would be taking a step down in opposition; he's not the one who needs to man up.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 13:58
by boxing_rocks
Is Horse Tanzio's alt ?

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 14:01
by Horse
crusader wrote:Why the silliness if Adonis is actually willing to fight elite opposition? He won't even fight the decent B-level guy who has been his mandatory for two years.

Kov has fought someone better than Adonis and would be taking a step down in opposition; he's not the one who needs to man up.
Kovalev had his chance to fight Stevenson and he declined.

Unlike his possibly homosexual fanboys, I'm unwilling to give him the benefit of the doubt until he shows his balls and actually fights the opponent that he ducked.

Kovalev does need to man up and stop avoiding the man he is clearly most afraid of.

Kovalev is a chicken until he proves otherwise.

Stop clucking boy and face your destiny!

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 14:04
by Ossyrules
chinarich wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
chinarich wrote:Smart move to move up, I mean, he just got stopped by a SMW...
I think ward has looked stronger at 175 than he did at 168
The sarcasm in my post is still valid...
Haha got me

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 14:10
by Jaywheel
Horse wrote:
crusader wrote:Why the silliness if Adonis is actually willing to fight elite opposition? He won't even fight the decent B-level guy who has been his mandatory for two years.

Kov has fought someone better than Adonis and would be taking a step down in opposition; he's not the one who needs to man up.
Kovalev had his chance to fight Stevenson and he declined.

Unlike his possibly homosexual fanboys, I'm unwilling to give him the benefit of the doubt until he shows his balls and actually fights the opponent that he ducked.

Kovalev does need to man up and stop avoiding the man he is clearly most afraid of.

Kovalev is a chicken until he proves otherwise.

Stop clucking boy and face your destiny!
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Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 14:21
by Blodhemn
I don't think Sergey has much of a choice. His stamina has gotten progressively worse over the last few fights and has become part of the battle, a bigger part than it should be. He'd be an interesting addition to the stacked CW division, much more interesting than a drained stay at LHW.
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Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:10
by KiwiRider
Horse wrote:No, he cannot move to cruiserweight!

He has to fight Stevenson!

Is he a chicken or something?

Is Kovalev a coward?!
Whooah horsie. Easy big fella.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:24
by victor-romeo
KiwiRider wrote:
Horse wrote:No, he cannot move to cruiserweight!

He has to fight Stevenson!

Is he a chicken or something?

Is Kovalev a coward?!
Whooah horsie. Easy big fella.
:lol:

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:28
by victor-romeo
Kovalev ought to see if he can get Lomachenko dad to train him.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:29
by DannyMCR
Perhaps if he didn't put on weight between fights, making 175 wouldn't be an issue

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:29
by Ilya Muromets
I like Kovalev and I think he actually won both fights with Ward, but why does he want to move up? Is he having trouble making weight? Cruiserweight is an extremely strong division right now. I don't think it's a good idea. I'd rather see a third fight with Ward, but this time in Russia or at least a neutral country, with an honest referee.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:41
by Horse
x2x wrote:I like Kovalev and I think he actually won both fights with Ward, but why does he want to move up? Is he having trouble making weight? Cruiserweight is an extremely strong division right now. I don't think it's a good idea. I'd rather see a third fight with Ward, but this time in Russia or at least a neutral country, with an honest referee.
He should fight the division's pimp daddy: Adonis Stevenson.

That's more interesting than Kovalev vs Ward III.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:45
by PsychoGamerTwo
I don't think its an good idea. He's been the only dominator at LHW (with Adonis as 2nd) but at CW, there are serious killers. He could beat solid CW's like Huck or Glowacki, but Briedis? Usyk? Gassiev? I certainly wouldn't see him as a fav in there. But hey, a fight with Kudryashov would sure be fun...

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:59
by boxing_rocks
x2x wrote:I like Kovalev and I think he actually won both fights with Ward, but why does he want to move up? Is he having trouble making weight? Cruiserweight is an extremely strong division right now. I don't think it's a good idea. I'd rather see a third fight with Ward, but this time in Russia or at least a neutral country, with an honest referee.
He feels that he was weakened by weight cut.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:07
by Ilya Muromets
:verysad:
boxing_rocks wrote:
x2x wrote:I like Kovalev and I think he actually won both fights with Ward, but why does he want to move up? Is he having trouble making weight? Cruiserweight is an extremely strong division right now. I don't think it's a good idea. I'd rather see a third fight with Ward, but this time in Russia or at least a neutral country, with an honest referee.
He feels that he was weakened by weight cut.


Maybe so. Before the last fight I looked at him and said his arms looked thin.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:10
by MachoTime
Horse wrote:
x2x wrote:I like Kovalev and I think he actually won both fights with Ward, but why does he want to move up? Is he having trouble making weight? Cruiserweight is an extremely strong division right now. I don't think it's a good idea. I'd rather see a third fight with Ward, but this time in Russia or at least a neutral country, with an honest referee.
He should fight the division's pimp daddy: Adonis Stevenson.

That's more interesting than Kovalev vs Ward III.
I agree Kovalev should fight Stevenson. Maybe Kovalev has a weight issue in making 175. If so then it's better for Kovalev career to move up. It's not like he has that much Boxing Time left. With his name he should get a title shot after 1 or 2 fights at cruiserweight. If he wins.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:19
by Horse
MachoTime wrote:I agree Kovalev should fight Stevenson. Maybe Kovalev has a weight issue in making 175. If so then it's better for Kovalev career to move up. It's not like he has that much Boxing Time left. With his name he should get a title shot after 1 or 2 fights at cruiserweight. If he wins.
It's a 25 lbs leap in weight.

It's a bad move and he shouldn't do it unless he really has to.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:33
by ScottDetonator
I don't fancy Kovalev's chances up at CW.

CW is stacked with talent at the moment.

Saying that though, Kovalev vs Lebedev in Russia, has a nice ring to it.

Re: Kovalev moving to Cruiser ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:33
by Ossyrules
It's a real difficult jump for the 175ers when they're struggling to make weight. They go from that to fighting small heavies really at cruiserweight.

It's crazy really that a super middle goes up 7lbs but the light heavies go 25lbs up.

He's got the pedigree to still be a handful at 200lb but faces some physical challenges.