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Impractical Poster wrote:Hell if I know. Them offering and Mayweather rejecting would be nothing more than a formality.

Horse wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Was Frampton willing to step forward? LSC? GTank?

Were any of them offered the fight?

Why are you mentioning fighters from the division below anyway?

Tanzio wrote:Sosa was a credible belt holder who fought gamely.

Look, I coined the dude Lomassiah. I think he is nearly as overrated as 3G was for about 5 years there. But let's be fair, he is staying busy. I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, given Salido fell through.

Sosa was a joke of a title holder and was not a credible opponent for Lomachenko.

Lomachenko should have been negotiating with more fighters than just Salido.

This opponent is inexcusable.

Tanzio wrote:Why is it inexcusable? Do you know all of the background on this decision?

Nobody is genuflecting in the direction of your stall multiple times a day, Mr. Ed. Get over yourself.

Horse wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Was Frampton willing to step forward? LSC? GTank?

Were any of them offered the fight?

Why are you mentioning fighters from the division below anyway?

Tanzio wrote:Sosa was a credible belt holder who fought gamely.

Look, I coined the dude Lomassiah. I think he is nearly as overrated as 3G was for about 5 years there. But let's be fair, he is staying busy. I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, given Salido fell through.

Sosa was a joke of a title holder and was not a credible opponent for Lomachenko.

Lomachenko should have been negotiating with more fighters than just Salido.

This opponent is inexcusable.

Horse wrote:

DannyMCR wrote:Rigo after this or 135 please

What's the point of him moving up to 135 lbs if he's not going to fight the best there either?

There are plenty of good opponents at his current weight.

Have they all ducked him?

How much were they offered?

Horse wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Why is it inexcusable? Do you know all of the background on this decision?

Nobody is genuflecting in the direction of your stall multiple times a day, Mr. Ed. Get over yourself.

I don't need to know the details.

This opponent is pathetic for a top 10 P4P fighter to be facing.

Shameful.

jockpunk wrote:Have you asked every single Victoria's secret model out on a date? Why not?

Naandrew wrote:Mayweather would not let Davis fight him.

The other top guys are all fighting on July 15th on HBO.

Horse wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:It's pretty clear Mayweather does not want Davis in with Loma.

http://www.BS.com/mayweather-n ... ko--112697

But is Lomachenko looking to fight Davis?

Have they made an offer?

Horse wrote:

Naandrew wrote:Mayweather would not let Davis fight him.

The other top guys are all fighting on July 15th on HBO.

Why not ask Davis if he wants to fight?

There are plenty of fighters better than Marriaga that don't have fights scheduled. How many of them were asked?

This fight is awful and it should not be defended even by his nuthuggers.

Enlightened-One wrote:Orlando Salido is a veteran seeking one final big payday before he retires. He wants to be paid his worth, because he can boast about being in possession of a rare commodity, which is the proud owner of being the only man that has ever defeated Vasyl Lomachenko in the pro ranks.

The Mexican is clearly not scared about suffering defeats or even slightly concerned about sharing the ring with Lomachenko. He’s made a business decision and is simply holding about for a better payday.

If Vasyl's handlers' desperately want him to avenge his sole defeat, then they should made to pay handsomely for the opportunity to do so.

Salido is almost 37 years of age and will be retiring shortly. And when this happens, fight fans are not going to continue giving him money during his retirement to help put food on the table and also provide a roof over the heads of his family, so I hope that his gamble pays off.

Tarkus wrote:Maywhether is on record saying he won't let Davies fight Loma for some time. No point offering fight when you KNOW you will get refused. Wastemen looking for something to bitch about on a boxing forum inst a reason for busyness decisions.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Horse wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:First off, it's debatable whether the likes of Pedraza, Smith, Uchiyama, or Vargas are better than Marriaga. Very debatable. Wasn't Mayweather on record saying that Davis is not ready for Loma quite yet?

It's only debatable with Smith. The rest are all former world champions and are worth far more on his record than Marriaga, who is a no mark.

Was Mayweather asked about a Davis fight by Lomachenko's team? If they reject a fair offer or refuse to negotiate then fine, but ask them.

How long does it take to send off an email, make a phone call or even send off a tweet?

His team doesn't have 5 minutes between them to try to get one of the best fights in the division made?

It's pretty clear Mayweather does not want Davis in with Loma.

http://www.BS.com/mayweather-n ... ko--112697

Tanzio wrote:I am defending it and I think that Lomassiah is a prima dona worshipped prematurely.

Tanzio wrote:Again, what do you know about who they asked? Why should they publish some kind of report card for you?

Tanzio wrote:No more pathetic than John Molina Jr and Henry Lundy.

Horse wrote:

Tarkus wrote:Maywhether is on record saying he won't let Davies fight Loma for some time. No point offering fight when you KNOW you will get refused. Wastemen looking for something to bitch about on a boxing forum inst a reason for busyness decisions.

Yes, there is a point in offering him the fight.

Lomachenko seems happy enough fighting nobodies. They don't seem to be trying very hard at all to get good opponents for Loma.

Tarkus wrote:Whats trying hard, pretending you are doing something by making futile offers? Ridiculous. Offering whooping 750K to Salido is making effort. Offering the portion of your purse to Walters is making effort. You can never make trolls and idiots happy whatever you do.

Horse wrote:

Tarkus wrote:Whats trying hard, pretending you are doing something by making futile offers? Ridiculous. Offering whooping 750K to Salido is making effort. Offering the portion of your purse to Walters is making effort. You can never make trolls and idiots happy whatever you do.

So what if the offers are "futile"?

They could spend two hours of their time making initial offers to the 20 best possible opponents and see what happens.

What's the worst that could happen? Everyone says no?!

If Lomachenko is a badass who everyone is ducking then fine, fight a few bums.

But if they are not even asking the best possible opponents if they want to fight him, then they can't honestly claim that Lomachenko is getting ducked.

Kalan wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:Orlando Salido is a veteran seeking one final big payday before he retires. He wants to be paid his worth, because he can boast about being in possession of a rare commodity, which is the proud owner of being the only man that has ever defeated Vasyl Lomachenko in the pro ranks.

The Mexican is clearly not scared about suffering defeats or even slightly concerned about sharing the ring with Lomachenko. He’s made a business decision and is simply holding about for a better payday.

If Vasyl's handlers' desperately want him to avenge his sole defeat, then they should made to pay handsomely for the opportunity to do so.

Salido is almost 37 years of age and will be retiring shortly. And when this happens, fight fans are not going to continue giving him money during his retirement to help put food on the table and also provide a roof over the heads of his family, so I hope that his gamble pays off.

His financial desires were MET!!! Can you read??? ... Then there was hand problems and weight problems... He doesn't want to get his ass knocked out cold, which happened to his friend Rocky Martinez who was completely dominated and knocked stiff -- and a guy who Salido lost to... There're also a lot of North American Boxing interests who don't want him facing Lomachenko... That robbery loss is the only thing they have over Lomachenko... They won't even give Gary Russell the Santa Cruz, Selby, or Frampton fights because Gary knocking those clowns out would make Lomachenko look good.

Horse wrote:

DannyMCR wrote:Rigo after this or 135 please

What's the point of him moving up to 135 lbs if he's not going to fight the best there either?

There are plenty of good opponents at his current weight.

Have they all ducked him?

How much were they offered?

Horse wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:I wouldn't consider Marriaga a bottom feeder by any means. He just isn't elite. He will beat everyone except the best guys. So, it's safe to say he won't be winning this fight.

Who could they have found that was better t this point in time? Vargas, Davis? Mayweather certainly isn't putting his star fighter in with Loma. The other top 130 pounders are scheduled to fight already. Marriaga is a solid, but overmatched opponent. But, it's going to be difficult to find Loma an opponent who will not be over matched... who wants to fight anyhow. Loma will most likely have to move up in weight to get any worth while fights.

Francisco Vargas - Was he asked?
Gervonta Davis - Was he asked?
Takashi Uchiyama - Was he asked?
Jose Pedraza - Was he asked?
Stephen Smith - Was he asked?

How many of the currently unavailable fighters had fights lined up 2.5 months ago right after Lomachenko's last fight?

Lomachenko's team should be talking to all of the top fighters in the division to try to get these fights made now or in the future.

How many of the top 10 ranked fighters in the division have even been offered the fight in the first place so they can reject it?

crusader wrote:Stephen Smith

Ya, because he'd be such a big improvement over Marriaga; there could be no disappointment if that fight had been made instead

Tarkus wrote:

Horse wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:It's pretty clear Mayweather does not want Davis in with Loma.

http://www.BS.com/mayweather-n ... ko--112697

But is Lomachenko looking to fight Davis?

Have they made an offer?

Maywhether is on record saying he won't let Davies fight Loma for some time. No point offering fight when you KNOW you will get refused. Wastemen looking for something to bitch about on a boxing forum inst a reason for busyness decisions.

Horse wrote:

crusader wrote:Stephen Smith

Ya, because he'd be such a big improvement over Marriaga; there could be no disappointment if that fight had been made instead

I'd enjoy the fight more.

At least he's a super featherweight.