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greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

greg wrote: surely, boxing fans have enough reasons to do that..

I don’t judge an entire community based on the actions of a small minority.

..it's a boxing forum, even if it's a small minority and they follow the rules of this forum, they have the right to be heard, all the more so if their claims are legit, simple as that..you don't like them, put them/us on the ignore...

Mmmm… where I’m from, in legal terms, nationality is considered a racial group, so if the same set of people from this forum persistently criticise all Americans for a variety of unsubstantiated reasons, then their voices shouldn’t "be heard", even if I do have the technical capability to ignore their posts.

I obviously don’t have the capability to persuade someone to change their bigoted minds in order to prevent them from persistently behaving in a derogatory manner (without reason) towards specific racial group(s), so I won’t even try… I’ll just mock them instead.

Enlightened-One wrote:.

I obviously don’t have the capability to persuade someone to change their minds when they persistently behave in a derogatory manner (without reason) towards specific racial group(s), so I won’t even try… I’ll just mock them instead.

.. make sure you don't make a mockery of yourself in the process

greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:.

I obviously don’t have the capability to persuade someone to change their minds when they persistently behave in a derogatory manner (without reason) towards specific racial group(s), so I won’t even try… I’ll just mock them instead.

.. make sure you don't make a mockery of yourself in the process

You need to explain the punchline of that joke.

Enlightened-One wrote:

greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:.

I obviously don’t have the capability to persuade someone to change their minds when they persistently behave in a derogatory manner (without reason) towards specific racial group(s), so I won’t even try… I’ll just mock them instead.

.. make sure you don't make a mockery of yourself in the process

You need to explain the punchline of that joke.

sorry, but to a lot of posters here it's self-explanatory

greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

greg wrote: .. make sure you don't make a mockery of yourself in the process

You need to explain the punchline of that joke.

sorry, but to a lot of posters here it's self-explanatory

So you’re saying that anyone that attempts to make a mockery of fúckíng racists is more likely to portray themselves as an idiot? This would only be the case is the vast majority of people that frequents this forum are fúckíng racists.

Enlightened-One wrote:

greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: You need to explain the punchline of that joke.

sorry, but to a lot of posters here it's self-explanatory

So you’re saying that anyone that attempts to make a mockery of fúckíng racists is more likely to portray themselves as an idiot? This would only be the case is the vast majority of people that frequents this forum are fúckíng racists.

...not that you need my advice, but still: don't look for the racists where there is none, and stick to the thread...if you don't/won't you put yourself in a danger of being mocked...

greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

greg wrote: surely, boxing fans have enough reasons to do that..

I don’t judge an entire community based on the actions of a small minority.

..it's a boxing forum, even if it's a small minority and they follow the rules of this forum, they have the right to be heard, all the more so if their claims are legit, simple as that..you don't like them, put them/us on the ignore...

Agree 100%

greg wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

greg wrote: sorry, but to a lot of posters here it's self-explanatory

So you’re saying that anyone that attempts to make a mockery of fúckíng racists is more likely to portray themselves as an idiot? This would only be the case is the vast majority of people that frequents this forum are fúckíng racists.

...not that you need my advice, but still: don't look for the racists where there is none, and stick to the thread...if you don't/won't you put yourself in a danger of being mocked...

I've only commented on the nature of the alarming comments expressed by some of the posts in this thread.

I didn't simply bark some sort of random sentence in an unfortunate keyboard Tourette's Syndrome-like manner!

lol...I think I got lumped into that group be cause I told caldo that his characterization of Povetkin being a boring holder was inaccurate. I also agreed with Boxing Writer's post that praised Pov for his ability and the long career he's had as a top HW. BTW, thanks greg, Lackeos, and tarkus for their compliments; you're all among the top posters on this site so your approval outweighs any criticism from caldo by about 100000x.

For the record:


-Do I think Povetkin is a good fighter? Yes
-Would he beat AJ? No
-Has he had a good career? Yes
-Is He an ATG? No
-Have I generally found him entertaining? Yes
-Was he the victim of a xenophobic conspiracy? No
-Was it Wilder's fault their fight fell through? No

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:There are some dudes on the povetkin payroll no doubt.
I hope it is money, because that level of free dedication would be sick.

Ya, it reminds me of the Haymon warriors. I've been following the sport for about 15 years, and I've never previously seen that many people become fanboys for an advisor. For a lot of them, his involvement seems to have become the number one criterion for whether they support a fighter.

crusader wrote:lol...I think I got lumped into that group be cause I told caldo that his characterization of Povetkin being a boring holder was inaccurate. I also agreed with Boxing Writer's post that praised Pov for his ability and the long career he's had as a top HW. BTW, thanks greg, Lackeos, and tarkus for their compliments; you're all among the top posters on this site so your approval outweighs any criticism from caldo by about 100000x.

For the record:


-Do I think Povetkin is a good fighter? Yes
-Would he beat AJ? No
-Has he had a good career? Yes
-Is He an ATG? No
-Have I generally found him entertaining? Yes
-Was he the victim of a xenophobic conspiracy? No
-Was it Wilder's fault their fight fell through? No

-Did Wilder actually want this fight? No
-Did Wilder know beforehand the fight would never happen? Yes

And I do think he's a victim of xenophobic conspiracy actually.

asdfjkl wrote:

crusader wrote:lol...I think I got lumped into that group be cause I told caldo that his characterization of Povetkin being a boring holder was inaccurate. I also agreed with Boxing Writer's post that praised Pov for his ability and the long career he's had as a top HW. BTW, thanks greg, Lackeos, and tarkus for their compliments; you're all among the top posters on this site so your approval outweighs any criticism from caldo by about 100000x.

For the record:


-Do I think Povetkin is a good fighter? Yes
-Would he beat AJ? No
-Has he had a good career? Yes
-Is He an ATG? No
-Have I generally found him entertaining? Yes
-Was he the victim of a xenophobic conspiracy? No
-Was it Wilder's fault their fight fell through? No

-Did Wilder actually want this fight? No
-Did Wilder know beforehand the fight would never happen? Yes

And I do think he's a victim of xenophobic conspiracy actually.

Yeah but that's because you're really stupid

joe strong wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Lackeos wrote:crusader is a better poster than you, though.

I don't know the guy that good, but guys who think like this:

caldo2025 wrote: I've been calling this for years...Arum is going to exploit Manny until he extracts the last penny from the boxer that built Top Rank himself. That's who Bob Arum is. He's probably ecstatic about the results last night. Now he's got a good looking, WHITE, champion to market now instead of an old "senator". Arum comes from the racist years of the great white hope BS...he knows finding a great white boxer is like seeing bigfoot. It's rare. There's no way he just stumbled onto this one....this was premeditated and I think he saw someone that could beat Manny. I'm sure he played it up to Manny like it was a definite KO. Can't stand this guy.

Seems to me like a bit delusional and racist, most white people don't care where a boxer comes from, just if he's good, nice, and fair.
Everybody likes Parker, everybody thinks AJ is the best, and Klitschko used to be the best, got nothing to do with someone's skincolor, TBH I think you're a bit sad if you really think like that. On the other side, I see a lot of Americans thinking, or acting like they think, someone from Russia uses doping, despite all evidence out there shows he's not. This topic is just another example of that, and finally proven wrong, everybody should shut his mouth and/or get banned...

This guy does make a point. Bob Arum was promoting Tye Fields as a "great white hope" for a few years & he stated it several times in post fight interviews on tv. He's big, he's WHITE were his 2 favourite lines describing Fields. Of course he dumped him as soon as Barrett splattered him on the canvas...

Very TRUE... Both Emmanuel Steward and Bob Arum thought they'd make millions with Tye Fields...when it was already obvious he had Primo Carnera's chin.

gilgamesh wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

crusader wrote:lol...I think I got lumped into that group be cause I told caldo that his characterization of Povetkin being a boring holder was inaccurate. I also agreed with Boxing Writer's post that praised Pov for his ability and the long career he's had as a top HW. BTW, thanks greg, Lackeos, and tarkus for their compliments; you're all among the top posters on this site so your approval outweighs any criticism from caldo by about 100000x.

For the record:


-Do I think Povetkin is a good fighter? Yes
-Would he beat AJ? No
-Has he had a good career? Yes
-Is He an ATG? No
-Have I generally found him entertaining? Yes
-Was he the victim of a xenophobic conspiracy? No
-Was it Wilder's fault their fight fell through? No

-Did Wilder actually want this fight? No
-Did Wilder know beforehand the fight would never happen? Yes

And I do think he's a victim of xenophobic conspiracy actually.

Yeah but that's because you're really stupid

Dude great response...

If you go back before the ped tests. I was one of the biggest Povetkin supporters on the forum.
But the over the top conspiracy theories drive me nuts.

Only one poster is so over the top that know one can have an entertaining debate with.
The rest of them don't bother me.

I still hope the mods extend the block list from 5 posters to 10. I constantly find myself juggling 8 posters or so monthly, depending on what topic is beaten into the F'n ground that month.

gilgamesh wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

crusader wrote:lol...I think I got lumped into that group be cause I told caldo that his characterization of Povetkin being a boring holder was inaccurate. I also agreed with Boxing Writer's post that praised Pov for his ability and the long career he's had as a top HW. BTW, thanks greg, Lackeos, and tarkus for their compliments; you're all among the top posters on this site so your approval outweighs any criticism from caldo by about 100000x.

For the record:


-Do I think Povetkin is a good fighter? Yes
-Would he beat AJ? No
-Has he had a good career? Yes
-Is He an ATG? No
-Have I generally found him entertaining? Yes
-Was he the victim of a xenophobic conspiracy? No
-Was it Wilder's fault their fight fell through? No

-Did Wilder actually want this fight? No
-Did Wilder know beforehand the fight would never happen? Yes

And I do think he's a victim of xenophobic conspiracy actually.

Yeah but that's because you're really stupid

Povetkin is the victim of a conspiracy to keep one Heavyweight Title in American hands -- and keep it OUT of Russian Hands... And keep Heavyweight Championship Fight venues in the United States -- and keep them out of Russia... And to get back at Ryabinsky for destroying American promoters purse bids by offering the boxers so much more money than American promoters offered -- and destroy Russia as a budding venue for Heavyweight Championship Fights.

Didn't read past Crusaders name. He's been one of the best posters here for a long time.

Take a break caldo, if you don't like posts either don't click them or go elsewhere.

armageto wrote:I still hope the mods extend the block list from 5 posters to 10. I constantly find myself juggling 8 posters or so monthly, depending on what topic is beaten into the F'n ground that month.

At least 10. Sometimes I would want to block 20

tiny_acres wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: -Did Wilder actually want this fight? No
-Did Wilder know beforehand the fight would never happen? Yes

And I do think he's a victim of xenophobic conspiracy actually.

Yeah but that's because you're really stupid

Dude great response...

If you go back before the ped tests. I was one of the biggest Povetkin supporters on the forum.
But the over the top conspiracy theories drive me nuts.

Only one poster is so over the top that know one can have an entertaining debate with.
The rest of them don't bother me.

But if you just follow the wada rules and realise that exactly the lab who tested Povetkin got suspended abd a different lab says Povetkin is innocent, there should at least flash a light that says hmmm that's a kind of very remarkeble. And we ain't even talking about Wilder and Stiverne both spotted having drugs around them, but never tested positive for anything? And also tested by that same lab? And right now, both Wilder and Stiverne are free, but both don't schedule any fight now their lab is closed? And everything I predicted months and months before the evidence was there, eventually turned out to be true? Now ofcourse you can call me uncredebly lucky with that, or simply open your eyes and try to understand what you see.

crusader wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:There are some dudes on the povetkin payroll no doubt.
I hope it is money, because that level of free dedication would be sick.

Ya, it reminds me of the Haymon warriors. I've been following the sport for about 15 years, and I've never previously seen that many people become fanboys for an advisor. For a lot of them, his involvement seems to have become the number one criterion for whether they support a fighter.

Haymon warrriors? Here? I have not seen any, other than Montreal Superstupid, that bashes Haymon at every turn.

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Yeah but that's because you're really stupid

Dude great response...

If you go back before the ped tests. I was one of the biggest Povetkin supporters on the forum.
But the over the top conspiracy theories drive me nuts.

Only one poster is so over the top that know one can have an entertaining debate with.
The rest of them don't bother me.

But if you just follow the wada rules and realise that exactly the lab who tested Povetkin got suspended abd a different lab says Povetkin is innocent, there should at least flash a light that says hmmm that's a kind of very remarkeble. And we ain't even talking about Wilder and Stiverne both spotted having drugs around them, but never tested positive for anything? And also tested by that same lab? And right now, both Wilder and Stiverne are free, but both don't schedule any fight now their lab is closed? And everything I predicted months and months before the evidence was there, eventually turned out to be true? Now ofcourse you can call me uncredebly lucky with that, or simply open your eyes and try to understand what you see.

I'd bet if you were on the Wilder vs. Povetkin civil trial jury it would be 11-1 instead of 12-0. You would be the 1 vote for Povetkin.

handsofstone wrote:Povetkin looks like a fat lesbian

caldo2025 wrote:
Did he do steroids...Did he not do steroids...Does Povetkin molest collies...does he not....WHO THE F CARES!?????

Molest Collies? As in collie dogs? I'd care, wouldn't be happy about that TBH

MachoTime wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:
Dude great response...

If you go back before the ped tests. I was one of the biggest Povetkin supporters on the forum.
But the over the top conspiracy theories drive me nuts.

Only one poster is so over the top that know one can have an entertaining debate with.
The rest of them don't bother me.

But if you just follow the wada rules and realise that exactly the lab who tested Povetkin got suspended abd a different lab says Povetkin is innocent, there should at least flash a light that says hmmm that's a kind of very remarkeble. And we ain't even talking about Wilder and Stiverne both spotted having drugs around them, but never tested positive for anything? And also tested by that same lab? And right now, both Wilder and Stiverne are free, but both don't schedule any fight now their lab is closed? And everything I predicted months and months before the evidence was there, eventually turned out to be true? Now ofcourse you can call me uncredebly lucky with that, or simply open your eyes and try to understand what you see.

I'd bet if you were on the Wilder vs. Povetkin civil trial jury it would be 11-1 instead of 12-0. You would be the 1 vote for Povetkin.

You expect everyone in the jury to ignore facts and expect them to be racists? You could very well be right actually.

Wales wrote:

handsofstone wrote:Povetkin looks like a fat lesbian

that looks as much like Povetkin as it looks like Wilder or Stiverne... I guess all white folks look the same to some people.