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crusader wrote:Pac won 3, 8, and 9 unanimously on the rescore; Horn 1,6, and 12.

Thank you for posting that.
I was wondering what the outcome was.
And according to 5 judges and the original 3 it wasn't a robbery.
Add to that the poll on here was 60/40 that Horn won. And 15 out if that 40% are the lunatic fringe anyway.

KiwiRider wrote:

crusader wrote:Pac won 3, 8, and 9 unanimously on the rescore; Horn 1,6, and 12.

Thank you for posting that.
I was wondering what the outcome was.
And according to 5 judges and the original 3 it wasn't a robbery.
Add to that the poll on here was 60/40 that Horn won. And 15 out if that 40% are the lunatic fringe anyway.

Wrong poll, numbskull.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=211981

JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:

KiwiRider wrote:

crusader wrote:Pac won 3, 8, and 9 unanimously on the rescore; Horn 1,6, and 12.

Thank you for posting that.
I was wondering what the outcome was.
And according to 5 judges and the original 3 it wasn't a robbery.
Add to that the poll on here was 60/40 that Horn won. And 15 out if that 40% are the lunatic fringe anyway.

Wrong poll, numbskull.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=211981

That was my thread and it was if anyone was interested in the fight.
The poll regarding a robbery I was referring to is in the British and Irish section.
And I watched the fight after an 11th hour managemental decision to get the PPV otherwise I would have given it a pass.
As they say Mr Van Dumb, inside every engine there is a dipstick

KiwiRider wrote:

JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:

KiwiRider wrote:

Thank you for posting that.
I was wondering what the outcome was.
And according to 5 judges and the original 3 it wasn't a robbery.
Add to that the poll on here was 60/40 that Horn won. And 15 out if that 40% are the lunatic fringe anyway.

Wrong poll, numbskull.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=211981

That was my thread and it was if anyone was interested in the fight.
The poll regarding a robbery I was referring to is in the British and Irish section.
And I watched the fight after an 11th hour managemental decision to get the PPV otherwise I would have given it a pass.
As they say Mr Van Dumb, inside every engine there is a dipstick

Who cares? This place is filled with crackpots and trolls.

Great company you clowns keep, with the one-man island, Paulie Tardinaggi.



Full scores:

Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Steve Bunce (allegedly) – 115-113 Horn

Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan Songalia (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

BS – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:

KiwiRider wrote:

JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:


Wrong poll, numbskull.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=211981

That was my thread and it was if anyone was interested in the fight.
The poll regarding a robbery I was referring to is in the British and Irish section.
And I watched the fight after an 11th hour managemental decision to get the PPV otherwise I would have given it a pass.
As they say Mr Van Dumb, inside every engine there is a dipstick

Who cares? This place is filled with crackpots and trolls.

Great company you clowns keep, with the one-man island, Paulie Tardinaggi.



Full scores:

Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Steve Bunce (allegedly) – 115-113 Horn

Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan Songalia (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

BS – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

The problem with quoting the media scores that you plagiarised from the ‘Pundit Arena’ website is that a biased person can represent a perception that fits their own narrative.

I’ll give you an example: someone posted similar information about the first Kovalev-Ward bout, which strongly suggested that nearly everyone thought that Sergey deserved the victory.

However, I then supplied an extra thirty media scores (which only took about ten minutes’ worth of effort)… and this undermined this notion, since a lot more people actually believed that the American had earned his “W” (with these scores being excluded from the original poll).

I’m not saying that Pacquiao-Horn decision wasn’t controversial… and nor am I disagreeing with the scores that you’ve quoted… it’s just that I disagree with you quoting media scores to support your claims, since it's an unreliable barometer.

If Horn won this fight then Pacquiao won the Mayweather fight.

IKSRTFO wrote:If Horn won this fight then Pacquiao won the Mayweather fight.

Pacquiao won them both by the simple fact he landed more punches in both fights.

Ricky_ wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:If Horn won this fight then Pacquiao won the Mayweather fight.

Pacquiao won them both by the simple fact he landed more punches in both fights.

But he never landed more punches than Mayweather..

So the WBO have now had 8 judges score the fight. 6 of the 8 judges thought Horn won r2 x100.

Ruthless-RKO wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:If Horn won this fight then Pacquiao won the Mayweather fight.

Pacquiao won them both by the simple fact he landed more punches in both fights.

But he never landed more punches than Mayweather..

He clearly did.