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The biggest prize in kickboxing when I followed it was $400k for winning the K1 heavyweight GP. There was decent money in it for the very best heavyweights, but nowhere near what the top boxers get, and the kickboxers had to go through grueling schedules where they faced tough opponent after tough opponent. I remember when K1 started the MAX division (essentially a JMW division) the winner of that GP didn't even get $100k, and the level of competition was insane.

K1 was incredible to watch--filled with wars, KTFOs, and hands down more consistently entertaining than boxing and what I've seen of MMA.

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: I've not seen a single fan on any prestigious forum saying that. No one at the forum I frequent thinks that, and this forum has a lot of trolls and blatantly stupid posters.

Mayweather vs. McGregor in a boxing ring is like putting the #1 Iron Man World Champion in a sprinting match with Usain Bolt. It's a futile effort. At the very least, K1 rules would be them meeting in the middle. Hell, IIRC (not sure if it was kickboxing or Muay Thai), Ruenroeng fought under those rules a while back.

Spot on. People don't understand that is an unfair contest and the middle way would've been a k1 contest. Yeah Conor will make a ton of money but this show would've worth the money if it would be on k1 rules.

There'd probably be less money in it if it weren't a Boxing match ironically. I've never heard of Kickboxers getting paid ANYWHERE NEAR what Floyd or Conor are making for this.

Hell the Prize Money for winning the K-1 Grand Prix used to be like 250,000.

I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
Spot on. People don't understand that is an unfair contest and the middle way would've been a k1 contest. Yeah Conor will make a ton of money but this show would've worth the money if it would be on k1 rules.

There'd probably be less money in it if it weren't a Boxing match ironically. I've never heard of Kickboxers getting paid ANYWHERE NEAR what Floyd or Conor are making for this.

Hell the Prize Money for winning the K-1 Grand Prix used to be like 250,000.

I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

gilgamesh wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
There'd probably be less money in it if it weren't a Boxing match ironically. I've never heard of Kickboxers getting paid ANYWHERE NEAR what Floyd or Conor are making for this.

Hell the Prize Money for winning the K-1 Grand Prix used to be like 250,000.

I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

No one is buying this fight strictly because they're boxing. It's the personalities. You think any of the people interested in this fight know who the hell Juan Francisco Estrada or Guillermo Rigondeaux are?

And someone would definitely be begging to get that done. You're kidding yourself.

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

No one is buying this fight strictly because they're boxing. It's the personalities. You think any of the people interested in this fight know who the hell Juan Francisco Estrada or Guillermo Rigondeaux are?

And someone would definitely be begging to get that done. You're kidding yourself.

I'm not saying people are buying it because they're boxing. I'm saying no promoter would put the money into the event to make it happen in the first place if they WEREN'T boxing.

Let's say it was the other way around and Mayweather was gonna fight Conor in the UFC...the reason why THAT ain't happening is because the UFC couldn't even pay them 25% of what they're making here.

Boxing is the only one of the 3 major combat sports where THIS kinda money is there.

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

No one is buying this fight strictly because they're boxing. It's the personalities. You think any of the people interested in this fight know who the hell Juan Francisco Estrada or Guillermo Rigondeaux are?

And someone would definitely be begging to get that done. You're kidding yourself.

at some people! So, Floyd is doing the right way with boxing rules since people from a boxing community are saying that is the correct way for Floyd to have all the advantages on his side and take all that big money with less risk?!

apollo creed wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

No one is buying this fight strictly because they're boxing. It's the personalities. You think any of the people interested in this fight know who the hell Juan Francisco Estrada or Guillermo Rigondeaux are?

And someone would definitely be begging to get that done. You're kidding yourself.

at some people! So, Floyd is doing the right way with boxing rules since people from a boxing community are saying that is the correct way for Floyd to have all the advantages on his side and take all that big money with less risk?!

Floyd had zero interest in Conor McGregor till McGregor started taking shit about beating Floyd in a boxing ring. And you think Floyd should go and fight him at kickboxing?

You're not very bright.

gilgamesh wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
There'd probably be less money in it if it weren't a Boxing match ironically. I've never heard of Kickboxers getting paid ANYWHERE NEAR what Floyd or Conor are making for this.

Hell the Prize Money for winning the K-1 Grand Prix used to be like 250,000.

I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

This fight would've sold even if it was on wrestling or judo rules! It'a only about the NAMES!

apollo creed wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

No one is buying this fight strictly because they're boxing. It's the personalities. You think any of the people interested in this fight know who the hell Juan Francisco Estrada or Guillermo Rigondeaux are?

And someone would definitely be begging to get that done. You're kidding yourself.

at some people! So, Floyd is doing the right way with boxing rules since people from a boxing community are saying that is the correct way for Floyd to have all the advantages on his side and take all that big money with less risk?!

Who said Floyd is doing it the right way?

He's doing it the only way he'd have done it. That's just a fact. It either goes down in a Boxing ring as a Boxing match or it doesn't happen at all. I'd have been just fine with it not happening at all, I'm just fine with it happening as a Boxing match. It's no skin off my ass either way.

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: I think it'd actually make more. I'd actually buy it if they met in the middle with standup.

I doubt it. Who'd promote it? Who'd be ponying up the money to pay the fighters? You think Haymon is gonna invest in a kickboxing match?

This fight would've sold even if it was on wrestling or judo rules! It'a only about the NAMES!

I know...but in a Wrestling or Judo match, who's gonna pony up the dough?

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: No one is buying this fight strictly because they're boxing. It's the personalities. You think any of the people interested in this fight know who the hell Juan Francisco Estrada or Guillermo Rigondeaux are?

And someone would definitely be begging to get that done. You're kidding yourself.

at some people! So, Floyd is doing the right way with boxing rules since people from a boxing community are saying that is the correct way for Floyd to have all the advantages on his side and take all that big money with less risk?!

Floyd had zero interest in Conor McGregor till McGregor started taking poo about beating Floyd in a boxing ring. And you think Floyd should go and fight him at kickboxing?

You're not very bright.

Don't you think this circus would worth 'my' and 'your' hard earned money if it was on a middle ground in terms of rules?

apollo creed wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
at some people! So, Floyd is doing the right way with boxing rules since people from a boxing community are saying that is the correct way for Floyd to have all the advantages on his side and take all that big money with less risk?!

Floyd had zero interest in Conor McGregor till McGregor started taking poo about beating Floyd in a boxing ring. And you think Floyd should go and fight him at kickboxing?

You're not very bright.

Don't you think this circus would worth 'my' and 'your' hard earned money if it was on a middle ground in terms of rules?

No. A fight with kicking is a fight Mayweather can't win. McGregor wanted it this way and he's got it. Why do you give a fornicate?

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
Floyd had zero interest in Conor McGregor till McGregor started taking poo about beating Floyd in a boxing ring. And you think Floyd should go and fight him at kickboxing?

You're not very bright.

Don't you think this circus would worth 'my' and 'your' hard earned money if it was on a middle ground in terms of rules?

No. A fight with kicking is a fight Mayweather can't win. McGregor wanted it this way and he's got it. Why do you give a eff?

It's not completely out of the question that Mayweather couldn't win a fight with kicking but it's pretty damn unlikely, it'd be a much harder night for him. Leg kicks would f*ck his whole world up.

gilgamesh wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
Don't you think this circus would worth 'my' and 'your' hard earned money if it was on a middle ground in terms of rules?

No. A fight with kicking is a fight Mayweather can't win. McGregor wanted it this way and he's got it. Why do you give a eff?

It's not completely out of the question that Mayweather couldn't win a fight with kicking but it's pretty damn unlikely, it'd be a much harder night for him. Leg kicks would f*ck his whole world up.

I don't think he hits hard enough to keep McGregor off him in a fight like that. The kicks would fornicate him up, and I don't think it would be a long fight. In fact, I'd say it is completely out of the question Floyd could win in a fight with kicking.

This is what McGregor begged for and he's getting it. Why anyone thinks this is unfair is beyond me.

Bottom line is I'd have paid for this fight only if it was on 'equal rules' , K1 or Muay Thai rules. It's like a 100m crawl contest between Michael Phelps vs Filip Filipovic or Tony Azevedo.

apollo creed wrote:Bottom line is I'd have paid for this fight only if it was on 'equal rules' , K1 or Muay Thay rules. It's like a 100m crawl contest between Michael Phelps vs Filip Filipovic or Tony Azevedo.

There is no equal rules between to two fighters who compete at different sports like MMA and Boxing.

gilgamesh wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
Don't you think this circus would worth 'my' and 'your' hard earned money if it was on a middle ground in terms of rules?

No. A fight with kicking is a fight Mayweather can't win. McGregor wanted it this way and he's got it. Why do you give a eff?

It's not completely out of the question that Mayweather couldn't win a fight with kicking but it's pretty damn unlikely, it'd be a much harder night for him. Leg kicks would f*ck his whole world up.

The satisfaction of seeing Floyd clueless and desperate would truly worth the money.

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
No. A fight with kicking is a fight Mayweather can't win. McGregor wanted it this way and he's got it. Why do you give a eff?

It's not completely out of the question that Mayweather couldn't win a fight with kicking but it's pretty damn unlikely, it'd be a much harder night for him. Leg kicks would f*ck his whole world up.

The satisfaction of seeing Floyd clueless and desperate would truly worth the money.

So you're not interested in a fair fight; you just want to see Floyd lose?

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:Bottom line is I'd have paid for this fight only if it was on 'equal rules' , K1 or Muay Thay rules. It's like a 100m crawl contest between Michael Phelps vs Filip Filipovic or Tony Azevedo.

There is no equal rules between to two fighters who compete at different sports like MMA and Boxing.

yeah, a bare knuckle boxing match. Floyd's biscuit hands would crack.

Covfefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
It's not completely out of the question that Mayweather couldn't win a fight with kicking but it's pretty damn unlikely, it'd be a much harder night for him. Leg kicks would f*ck his whole world up.

The satisfaction of seeing Floyd clueless and desperate would truly worth the money.

So you're not interested in a fair fight; you just want to see Floyd lose?

A fair fight for both fighters and the people who pay the money. K1 rules or bare knuckle boxing match.

Aside of that big payday Conor is gonna get , he has no business in a boxing match against an elite boxer. Even Horn would fuk up pretty badly Conor in a boxing match.

Sounds to me like MMA fans are terrified and desperate ...

Boxing is ... (by definition) ... the ONLY fair form of fighting ...

... hell ... boxing invented the idea ...

Tarkus wrote:What would be the point? Boxer and MMA fighter competing in kickboxing makes no sense.

It makes plenty of sense for McGregor... Makes no sense for Mayweather -- so it's not going to be allowed... This is a straight up boxing match because Floyd has the gold... And people with the gold make the rules... That is the Golden Rule of the rich... If you want to get some of their gold, it's their rules.

Kalan wrote:

Tarkus wrote:What would be the point? Boxer and MMA fighter competing in kickboxing makes no sense.

It makes plenty of sense for McGregor... Makes no sense for Mayweather -- so it's not going to be allowed... This is a straight up boxing match because Floyd has the gold... And people with the gold make the rules... That is the Golden Rule of the rich... If you want to get some of their gold, it's their rules.

It's what McGregor asked for.