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Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 23:17
by tiny_acres
asdfjkl wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about @bad guy

@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.

@taansend, Yes I have, in fact I never lost, but that was in highschool against other 17 year olds with 0 experience. I have a very short reach somehow, so I would never make it to the top. I am quite strong btw, especially at the time. It destroyed me somehow, I was completely out of breath within a minit.
Please shut the fukc up
You have no experience in boxing and zero knowledge of the sport.
Shut the fukc up and let the adults talk. You might learn something

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 23:26
by Lackeos
asdfjkl wrote:@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.
That's not honest. If you said YOU were a coward and Whyte wasn't a coward, you would be 200% honest. Right now, you're completely the opposite. Whyte fought Anthony Joshua. In absolute terms, Anthony Joshua is the most formidable boxer in the entire world.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 02:18
by Ruthless-RKO
Lackeos wrote:IMO, Mansour's callouts are too ambitious for where he sits in the actual, non-ABC rankings. You beat Travis Kauffman, that's nice (I'm being a little bit sarcastic and patronizing). Beating Kauffman doesn't earn you a shot at champions. He simply doesn't have the right to bemoan the types of fighters who are rejecting him. If someone in the top 15 rejects Mansour, it's because Mansour is a gnat who hasn't earned the right to be in the ring with fighters like that. If he really wants to complain about rejections of legitimate offers, he should be making offers to Helenius, Teper, Kownacki, Jarrell Miller, Ustinov, Wawrzyk, Dimitrenko, maybe even Chisora and Takam. That's the level of opponent you've earned after you beat Kauffman, and it's a list of fighters who can't simply say "I've got bigger fish to fry," because they don't.

I know that Mansour is getting old and doesn't have a lot of time left to get paid, but he just hasn't earned it. He needs to focus on securing the best opponent that he can actually get, instead of wasting all of his focus chasing down opponents he can't get.
Whilst I don't disagree with you, you made a good point. He is chasing Wilder, and has been for a few fights, assuming why he fights for their regional belts. Even if he was ranked top 15, I don't think Wilder picks him as a voluntary. He's a tough guy, that Wilder will most likely stop tbh.

He should try the WBA rankings, they literally gave Briggs a top 5 ranking for no reason.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 04:30
by asdfjkl
Lackeos wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.
That's not honest. If you said YOU were a coward and Whyte wasn't a coward, you would be 200% honest. Right now, you're completely the opposite. Whyte fought Anthony Joshua. In absolute terms, Anthony Joshua is the most formidable boxer in the entire world.
If Whyte offers me 4,5 mil I'll gladly accept it. If Mansour offers me 450k I'll gladly accept it. If anyone who obviously has 0 chance in beating me, or even injure me, offers me over 10k I'll accept it. If you hear me claiming I'm better, while I don't box that boxer, then you can consider it as a duck, especially if I have nothing better to do.

@Tiny, please join PTBF so you can show your knowledge, because at this moment you're pretty much exactly my definition of a coward, you got big talks, but you show absolutely nothing.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 07:13
by Taansend
asdfjkl wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about @bad guy

@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.

@taansend, Yes I have, in fact I never lost, but that was in highschool against other 17 year olds with 0 experience. I have a very short reach somehow, so I would never make it to the top. I am quite strong btw, especially at the time. It destroyed me somehow, I was completely out of breath within a minit.
So you claim be boxer who thinks other boxers are COWARDS?

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 07:33
by asdfjkl
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about @bad guy

@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.

@taansend, Yes I have, in fact I never lost, but that was in highschool against other 17 year olds with 0 experience. I have a very short reach somehow, so I would never make it to the top. I am quite strong btw, especially at the time. It destroyed me somehow, I was completely out of breath within a minit.
So you claim be boxer who thinks other boxers are COWARDS?
I'm not a boxer lol, I'm not a footballer or a basketballer, or anything like that, you asked me if I ever boxer a minit in my life, yes I did, that's all.
And yes, ofcourse there are cowards, you make yourself look like a guy who admires Charlie Zelenoff or something. I look at the boxer and watch his skills, I don't listen to a boxer and believe him automatically. A boxer may have talks, but if he can't back it up, then he just shouldn't have spread his lies.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 08:09
by tiny_acres
asdfjkl wrote:
Lackeos wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.
That's not honest. If you said YOU were a coward and Whyte wasn't a coward, you would be 200% honest. Right now, you're completely the opposite. Whyte fought Anthony Joshua. In absolute terms, Anthony Joshua is the most formidable boxer in the entire world.
If Whyte offers me 4,5 mil I'll gladly accept it. If Mansour offers me 450k I'll gladly accept it. If anyone who obviously has 0 chance in beating me, or even injure me, offers me over 10k I'll accept it. If you hear me claiming I'm better, while I don't box that boxer, then you can consider it as a duck, especially if I have nothing better to do.

@Tiny, please join PTBF so you can show your knowledge, because at this moment you're pretty much exactly my definition of a coward, you got big talks, but you show absolutely nothing.
You are pathetic

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 11:06
by Taansend
asdfjkl wrote:
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about @bad guy

@Lackeos I prefere to be honest, if you only accept fights you can't lose, while having the biggest talks out there,! then you're a coward, that's just the way it is.

@taansend, Yes I have, in fact I never lost, but that was in highschool against other 17 year olds with 0 experience. I have a very short reach somehow, so I would never make it to the top. I am quite strong btw, especially at the time. It destroyed me somehow, I was completely out of breath within a minit.
So you claim be boxer who thinks other boxers are COWARDS?
I'm not a boxer lol, I'm not a footballer or a basketballer, or anything like that, you asked me if I ever boxer a minit in my life, yes I did, that's all.
And yes, ofcourse there are cowards, you make yourself look like a guy who admires Charlie Zelenoff or something. I look at the boxer and watch his skills, I don't listen to a boxer and believe him automatically. A boxer may have talks, but if he can't back it up, then he just shouldn't have spread his lies.
I've never heard of Charlie Zelanov.

So you are saying Whyte is a coward based on something Mansour said even though you don't automatically believe what Mansour said.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 15:45
by asdfjkl
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Taansend wrote:
So you claim be boxer who thinks other boxers are COWARDS?
I'm not a boxer lol, I'm not a footballer or a basketballer, or anything like that, you asked me if I ever boxer a minit in my life, yes I did, that's all.
And yes, ofcourse there are cowards, you make yourself look like a guy who admires Charlie Zelenoff or something. I look at the boxer and watch his skills, I don't listen to a boxer and believe him automatically. A boxer may have talks, but if he can't back it up, then he just shouldn't have spread his lies.
I've never heard of Charlie Zelanov.

So you are saying Whyte is a coward based on something Mansour said even though you don't automatically believe what Mansour said.
If you actually follow the sport you start learning the people involved better, you know their reactions, you realise who's a lier and who isn't, things like that. You'll recognice behaviour and you know automatically which things most likely did happen and what things are most likely a lie.

It's not that surprising that Povetkin turned out to be innocent, twice and it's not that surprising that Wilder and the WBC act like he is, it's all very predictable actually, once you start watching and following boxing.
Within the heavyweigth league I'm usually right, sometimes it just takes a while before the evidence is there and yes that's sometimes very annoying, especially if there are retards that only follow the mainstream media who spread bullshit, usually it's like, the more evidence, the more easy I can show I'm right, somehow the evidence is not always there straight away.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 17:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
Are you dwarf weight?

There isn't money for Mansour/Whyte on this card. Whyte, Jennings & Walters aren't even on the broadcast. It's stay busy fights for Arum and Hearn.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 23:39
by Taansend
asdfjkl wrote:
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I'm not a boxer lol, I'm not a footballer or a basketballer, or anything like that, you asked me if I ever boxer a minit in my life, yes I did, that's all.
And yes, ofcourse there are cowards, you make yourself look like a guy who admires Charlie Zelenoff or something. I look at the boxer and watch his skills, I don't listen to a boxer and believe him automatically. A boxer may have talks, but if he can't back it up, then he just shouldn't have spread his lies.
I've never heard of Charlie Zelanov.

So you are saying Whyte is a coward based on something Mansour said even though you don't automatically believe what Mansour said.
If you actually follow the sport you start learning the people involved better, you know their reactions, you realise who's a lier and who isn't, things like that. You'll recognice behaviour and you know automatically which things most likely did happen and what things are most likely a lie.

It's not that surprising that Povetkin turned out to be innocent, twice and it's not that surprising that Wilder and the WBC act like he is, it's all very predictable actually, once you start watching and following boxing.
Within the heavyweigth league I'm usually right, sometimes it just takes a while before the evidence is there and yes that's sometimes very annoying, especially if there are retards that only follow the mainstream media who spread bullshit, usually it's like, the more evidence, the more easy I can show I'm right, somehow the evidence is not always there straight away.
I know English isn't your first language, so I'll try again.

I'm asking you why you think it's ok to call Dillian Whyte a COWARD and you're talking about someone named Charlie Zelanov and then talking about Povetkin. Neither of which is relevant to you calling Whyte a coward.

So again, why are you calling Dillian Whyte a Coward?

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 03:01
by asdfjkl
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Taansend wrote:
I've never heard of Charlie Zelanov.

So you are saying Whyte is a coward based on something Mansour said even though you don't automatically believe what Mansour said.
If you actually follow the sport you start learning the people involved better, you know their reactions, you realise who's a lier and who isn't, things like that. You'll recognice behaviour and you know automatically which things most likely did happen and what things are most likely a lie.

It's not that surprising that Povetkin turned out to be innocent, twice and it's not that surprising that Wilder and the WBC act like he is, it's all very predictable actually, once you start watching and following boxing.
Within the heavyweigth league I'm usually right, sometimes it just takes a while before the evidence is there and yes that's sometimes very annoying, especially if there are retards that only follow the mainstream media who spread bullshit, usually it's like, the more evidence, the more easy I can show I'm right, somehow the evidence is not always there straight away.
I know English isn't your first language, so I'll try again.

I'm asking you why you think it's ok to call Dillian Whyte a COWARD and you're talking about someone named Charlie Zelanov and then talking about Povetkin. Neither of which is relevant to you calling Whyte a coward.

So again, why are you calling Dillian Whyte a Coward?
Because he ducked Mansour... You really didn't read the article did you? Also, please read my actual post about it, because you're putting words in my mouth, which is a kind of sad.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 04:01
by Enlightened-One
asdfjkl wrote:
Taansend wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: If you actually follow the sport you start learning the people involved better, you know their reactions, you realise who's a lier and who isn't, things like that. You'll recognice behaviour and you know automatically which things most likely did happen and what things are most likely a lie.

It's not that surprising that Povetkin turned out to be innocent, twice and it's not that surprising that Wilder and the WBC act like he is, it's all very predictable actually, once you start watching and following boxing.
Within the heavyweigth league I'm usually right, sometimes it just takes a while before the evidence is there and yes that's sometimes very annoying, especially if there are retards that only follow the mainstream media who spread bullshit, usually it's like, the more evidence, the more easy I can show I'm right, somehow the evidence is not always there straight away.
I know English isn't your first language, so I'll try again.

I'm asking you why you think it's ok to call Dillian Whyte a COWARD and you're talking about someone named Charlie Zelanov and then talking about Povetkin. Neither of which is relevant to you calling Whyte a coward.

So again, why are you calling Dillian Whyte a Coward?
Because he ducked Mansour... You really didn't read the article did you? Also, please read my actual post about it, because you're putting words in my mouth, which is a kind of sad.
Whyte didn't duck Mansour.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 11:57
by asdfjkl
Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Taansend wrote:
I know English isn't your first language, so I'll try again.

I'm asking you why you think it's ok to call Dillian Whyte a COWARD and you're talking about someone named Charlie Zelanov and then talking about Povetkin. Neither of which is relevant to you calling Whyte a coward.

So again, why are you calling Dillian Whyte a Coward?
Because he ducked Mansour... You really didn't read the article did you? Also, please read my actual post about it, because you're putting words in my mouth, which is a kind of sad.
Whyte didn't duck Mansour.
So you call Mansour a lier?

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 12:10
by tiny_acres
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Because he ducked Mansour... You really didn't read the article did you? Also, please read my actual post about it, because you're putting words in my mouth, which is a kind of sad.
Whyte didn't duck Mansour.
So you call Mansour a lier?
So Povetkin ducked Mansour by your reasoning.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 12:44
by Ruthless-RKO
tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: Whyte didn't duck Mansour.
So you call Mansour a lier?
So Povetkin ducked Mansour by your reasoning.
Why not? Mansour is a tough fight for a lot of HW's..

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 12:57
by asdfjkl
tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: Whyte didn't duck Mansour.
So you call Mansour a lier?
So Povetkin ducked Mansour by your reasoning.
Povetkin fought a higher ranked guy and on top of that realised that the WBC was ruined by criminals and fake bullshit. Next to that, Povetkin fights max once every 6 months for years and years in a row now.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 13:35
by Enlightened-One
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Because he ducked Mansour... You really didn't read the article did you? Also, please read my actual post about it, because you're putting words in my mouth, which is a kind of sad.
Whyte didn't duck Mansour.
So you call Mansour a lier?
Are you mentally deranged or something similar? We've had this discussion on this thread before!

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 14:04
by marvelous marv
I love how you are conveniently ignoring the fact that Mansour says Povetkin is ducking him, he is willing to travel to fight in Russia.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 14:16
by Ruthless-RKO
marvelous marv wrote:I love how you are conveniently ignoring the fact that Mansour says Povetkin is ducking him, he is willing to travel to fight in Russia.
Also, Whyte doesn't have fish to fry.. he still hasn't fried Chisora. He's the one goin around begging.. apart from Mansour, I haven't seen anyone call out Whyte.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 14:17
by crusader
Mansour doesn't have much to offer top HWs. He's not a draw and he isn't a big win given that he's 44, lacks notable victories himself, and barely got past Travis Kauffman last time.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 14:18
by Blodhemn
Expected a shitty thread and wasn't disappointed. Thank you RKO for providing yet another venue of quality discussion.

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 14:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Blodhemn wrote:Expected a shitty thread and wasn't disappointed. Thank you RKO for providing yet another venue of quality discussion.
I hardly post or get in to discussions in my OWN threads. Certain individuals don't know when a debate is over.

You're welcome btw :TU:

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 15:03
by Blodhemn
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Blodhemn wrote:Expected a shitty thread and wasn't disappointed. Thank you RKO for providing yet another venue of quality discussion.
I hardly post or get in to discussions in my OWN threads. Certain individuals don't know when a debate is over.

You're welcome btw :TU:
Shifting blame for distribution. Your hands 'is dirty!

Re: Amir Mansour Calls Out Heavyweight Division!

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 18:06
by Best Coast
When a guy as non-descript as Mansour "calls out the HW division" the rational response would be for the rest of the HWs to ignore him. Beating a fellow scrub like Kauffman does nothing for your mediocre credentials!! :zzz: