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Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 20:28
by watsupdoc87
Was never a fan of Nelson as a commentator but seen him on that ifl afew times and he was quite honest and laid into afew people in the boxing community which was great. I don't watch boxing through sky anymore, so don't know how he still commentates. Does he give his own honest opinion or does he just tow the sky bandwagon? :bag:

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 21:03
by Tarkus
Bellew: Noone gave me a chance against Haye but I've done it. Floyd is getting smashed. Simple as that!

Nelson: Floyd is still relatively fresh. Take me for example, I am 50 and I can still beat Marco Huck. He didn't want it.

Froch: It depends if Floyd still has a hunger, if he still can get up at 4 am and do the runs, chop down few trees. If I still had a desire and a nose I would come back and knock out Callum Smith in front of 85000.

Eddie: This shows Mayweather is still the biggest draw in boxing, so we still have some work to do, hehe. I spoke to Al and helped negotiating this fight on behalf of Sky.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 04:09
by rm1
Autobarn wrote:
rm1 wrote:Yup Nelson has sold his soul to the corporate devil which is Sky. Whish is a shame as when he is serious he is ok at the job.
If the commentators are being performance micro managed, as it appears they for the past 8 or 9 years, what else can they do if they want to keep their nice job?
Be genuinely good or funny ?
I understand why they do it but I don't talk bollocks to get on in my job so I feel justified in calling others who do.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 04:20
by Andrew
Tarkus wrote:Bellew: Noone gave me a chance against Haye but I've done it. Floyd is getting smashed. Simple as that!

Nelson: Floyd is still relatively fresh. Take me for example, I am 50 and I can still beat Marco Huck. He didn't want it.

Froch: It depends if Floyd still has a hunger, if he still can get up at 4 am and do the runs, chop down few trees. If I still had a desire and a nose I would come back and knock out Callum Smith in front of 85000.

Eddie: This shows Mayweather is still the biggest draw in boxing, so we still have some work to do, hehe. I spoke to Al and helped negotiating this fight on behalf of Sky.
I actually think Bellew will slate the event. I'm not Tony's biggest fan at all but he doesn't strike me as some to "tow the company line"

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 10:15
by Tarkus
Naandrew wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Bellew: Noone gave me a chance against Haye but I've done it. Floyd is getting smashed. Simple as that!

Nelson: Floyd is still relatively fresh. Take me for example, I am 50 and I can still beat Marco Huck. He didn't want it.

Froch: It depends if Floyd still has a hunger, if he still can get up at 4 am and do the runs, chop down few trees. If I still had a desire and a nose I would come back and knock out Callum Smith in front of 85000.

Eddie: This shows Mayweather is still the biggest draw in boxing, so we still have some work to do, hehe. I spoke to Al and helped negotiating this fight on behalf of Sky.
I actually think Bellew will slate the event. I'm not Tony's biggest fan at all but he doesn't strike me as some to "tow the company line"
I dont think so. He himself become a circus act recently, so how can he slate others. And he will have to say, ye but nobody expected me to beat Haye either.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 11:50
by ewenhay
It will depend if they are showing the fight or not. If they get it everyone will be told to get behind it and talk it up. If they don't get it they will probably ignore it completely.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 12:20
by Counter-puncher
The thread title implies there are people at Smatchroom Boxing that have integrity left to lose? :maybe:

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 12:56
by ElJefe
Here's Glenn's thoughts...

https://twitter.com/Glenn_McCrory/statu ... 9761771522

Jim Watt would almost certainly have gone with "What a load of nonsense!"

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 13:02
by CaptainSpacerod
Sky's boxing pundits have seemingly turned en masse into cheerleading media trained monkeys over the last few years and it's fvcking awful to see. I can understand the likes of Nelson and Moore and Barker et al sticking to the company script because frankly they need the money but to see Froch behave likewise upsets me. He is financially secure and doesn't need the cash.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 15 Jul 2017, 13:17
by Autobarn
rm1 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
rm1 wrote:Yup Nelson has sold his soul to the corporate devil which is Sky. Whish is a shame as when he is serious he is ok at the job.
If the commentators are being performance micro managed, as it appears they for the past 8 or 9 years, what else can they do if they want to keep their nice job?
Be genuinely good or funny ?
I understand why they do it but I don't talk bollocks to get on in my job so I feel justified in calling others who do.
One day in the mid-late 2000s they just started with a relentless focus on positivity. Clearly they were no longer allowed to criticise their product.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 16 Jul 2017, 16:24
by rhino222
Boxerbeetle wrote:For all their faults, Glenn and Jim would have fvcking slammed this event.
Glenn would have slammed a dozen tequilas given half the chance...... shortly before going on air!!

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 12:15
by Flump
So the answer to my original question is Macklin, Nelson and Adam Smith. So far....

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 12:34
by tony1234
Flump wrote:So the answer to my original question is Macklin, Nelson and Adam Smith. So far....
Embarrassing watching the 3 of them hyping the PPV

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 11:29
by tony1234
I don't think they'll be asking Ryan Burnett on SSN for his opinion on the 'fight' again

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 11:55
by Flump
tony1234 wrote:I don't think they'll be asking Ryan Burnett on SSN for his opinion on the 'fight' again
No I suspect not! Bellew waa pretty honest too, without going as far as saying it's a scam.

As someone predicted they keep roping in MMA fighters to talk McGregor up.

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 14:40
by Andrew
Flump wrote:
tony1234 wrote:I don't think they'll be asking Ryan Burnett on SSN for his opinion on the 'fight' again
No I suspect not! Bellew waa pretty honest too, without going as far as saying it's a scam.

As someone predicted they keep roping in MMA fighters to talk McGregor up.
Said bellew would slate it on another post. What did Burnett say ?

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 16:51
by tony1234
Basically said it was a farce

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 21:39
by Wales
Flump wrote:I may be jumping the gun here but assuming that Sky pick up the Mayweather - McGregor mismatch, which of their pundits do you expect to sacrifice their integrity and credibility by trying to sell this as a sporting contest?

I would like to think that Froch and Bellew would actually call it for what it is, but will they given that they would be expected to sell the event?
Great question. Who'll sell their soul to the devil

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 02:08
by Oiky
I can see all of them being involved tbh :lol:

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 13:12
by Nightmare Roy

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 14:38
by Oiky
Nightmare Roy wrote:....and we are off!

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... han-boxers

:clap:
That is just silly talk from Johnny

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 14:54
by milpool
Nightmare Roy wrote:....and we are off!

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... han-boxers

:clap:
Actual LOL!

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 17:16
by coneye
I think in general they are fit , BUT punch fit is different , , unless they have got a boxing background and done a lot of boxing , they will wear out quickly , until they learn to move and punch , and breath correctly , not punching through stiff arms , once they can relax , yeh it will work for them , but generaly there fitness level is high , you train for what you do

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 17:34
by Oiky
Credit where it's due MMA men are obviously fit & healthy men but nowhere near as fighting fit as boxers

The conditioning for the two sports is very different and both sports are clearly more demanding than most but boxers are fitter Johnny needs to go & lay himself down in a dark room and have a think, coming out with silly talk like that

Re: Sky Pundits:Who Will Sacrifice Their Integrity?

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 18:26
by ElJefe
I think people probably tire doing what they're not used to. As coneye said, MMA fighters are stiff when they punch and mostly uncomfortable on the feet so they'll burn energy more easily. Put a boxer on the ground where he's uncomfortable and doesn't know how to use his energy efficiently and it'd be much the same imo.