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Re: Crawford vs Indongo
Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 17:43
by ldlamb
imaioral wrote:Ossyrules wrote:imaioral wrote:
Yeah, the IBO is consider the highest of minor bodies and I see it as a soon to be a recognized world title body (between the 4 major ones), so what? So all boxers who achieved it may throw it in the garbage because you say "it is not considered"? So Lara, GGG, Joshua, Rigondeaux, Eubank Jr., Indongo efforts made their path for achieving it for nothing? If it is there, it worth something, even being the highest value of minor boxing bodies, it is as tough as any of the 4 major ones to achieve. Fu.ck you. .l.
IBO isn't a world title. That's recognised. That's a fact. It's nothing more than a tool to market fights like the Eubanks have taken advantage of. In days gone by itd be a ranking fight for a shot at the title or be somewhere in the mix. Now the phoneys and the wise guys can play it off as a world title fight. It's bollocks. Sure other great champs have been awarded this belt at times during there career, but let's be straight, they fight for the recognised belt and this fake belt is just collateral along the way
Nice, so let's all of us make a protest to take it off as it is fake and many great champions also (have) had it... We were all fooled, damn!

Let's warn them all to not strive for a decorative belt.
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Sounds like only you were fooled.
Re: Crawford vs Indongo
Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 18:00
by Badhusker
I see Indongo as a harder puncher, but not as good of a boxer and less accomplished than Postol. About the same size of Postol, and has a puncher's chance, that is all. His resume is weak, with only 2 notable wins. I don't see this as a huge test for Crawford like most. The real tests for Crawford lie at 147. Right now I can only see Spence beating him there, imo. Crawford has the wheels and skill to make it a good fight too though. Spence is bigger and stronger, and relentless.My guess is he will stay at 140 for now with hopes of a Garcia/Broner winner or Pac/Horn winner fight.
Re: Crawford vs Indongo
Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 18:17
by RScarf1
The IBO has decent men's champions, but hardly any women's champs. Even the World Boxing Federation has more women's champs. When the IBO title is held by a champion, I wonder why he would want to pay their sanctioning fee if he had belts from other sanctioning bodies. The IBO is not a major boxing organization because it is not recognized by the International Boxing Hall of Fame or Ring Magazine. Even though someone could make an argument that a belt from the IBO has the same prestige as an IBF belt because of the IBO's unbiased computerized ratings, it has not reached this status in the minds of the powers that be. The money is mainly in men's boxing and when the IBO has a good men's or women's champ, it is usually because that champ also has one or more belts from major sanctioning bodies. Whether the IBO will ever be considered a major organization, I have no idea.
Re: Crawford vs Indongo
Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 20:20
by imaioral
Badhusker wrote:I see Indongo as a harder puncher, but not as good of a boxer and less accomplished than Postol. About the same size of Postol, and has a puncher's chance, that is all. His resume is weak, with only 2 notable wins. I don't see this as a huge test for Crawford like most. The real tests for Crawford lie at 147. Right now I can only see Spence beating him there, imo. Crawford has the wheels and skill to make it a good fight too though. Spence is bigger and stronger, and relentless.My guess is he will stay at 140 for now with hopes of a Garcia/Broner winner or Pac/Horn winner fight.
Definitely Indongo is a good and a bit above average boxer whom gives trouble and has decent power, speed, counter punching, luck and one or other good skill and is a boxer who is quiet and making his way until now for his biggest challenge yet. I don't see him giving super trouble to Crawford but some counterpunches will shake Crawford a bit. If succeed this huge feat, Crawford will have very few opponents to give trouble in his class, the most probable is Rances Barthelemy and the closer one is rising prospect Sergey Lipinets. But probably after this feat Crawford will definitely move to 147, he already knows he is the top of the division and that there is nobody to stand against him there. And I don't see Mikey Garcia fighting Crawford, there are at least 5 good to top boxers on LW to face him.
Antonio Orozco is good, but I see Lipinets better than him in general skills. I have never seen Anthony Yigit fighting so I can't tell about him, but as his resume is on average he seem to be a good boxer. I saw Josh Taylor, he is good and skilled, is "stoning" his skills more and more and will give trouble to many of the guys in his division, but until there Crawford is out.
Re: Crawford vs Indongo
Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 20:25
by imaioral
RScarf1 wrote:The IBO has decent men's champions, but hardly any women's champs. Even the World Boxing Federation has more women's champs. When the IBO title is held by a champion, I wonder why he would want to pay their sanctioning fee if he had belts from other sanctioning bodies. The IBO is not a major boxing organization because it is not recognized by the International Boxing Hall of Fame or Ring Magazine. Even though someone could make an argument that a belt from the IBO has the same prestige as an IBF belt because of the IBO's unbiased computerized ratings, it has not reached this status in the minds of the powers that be. The money is mainly in men's boxing and when the IBO has a good men's or women's champ, it is usually because that champ also has one or more belts from major sanctioning bodies. Whether the IBO will ever be considered a major organization, I have no idea.
Interesting and sensible words.