Will the World Boxing Super Series flop?

Oiky
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I don't think it'll flop, I think it's a decent set up :box:
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Usyk v Huck is in less than. three weeks
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Naandrew wrote:Usyk v Huck is in less than. three weeks
This is 8 days away and no to deal for the UK.

Smith v Skoglund is 15 days away.

With the Groves and Cox presser happening in London I was expecting Uk TV to be confirmed today.

Need to sort this out !
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Naandrew wrote:
Naandrew wrote:Usyk v Huck is in less than. three weeks
This is 8 days away and no to deal for the UK.

Smith v Skoglund is 15 days away.

With the Groves and Cox presser happening in London I was expecting Uk TV to be confirmed today.

Need to sort this out !
Both Sauerlands said deal imminent - it's a media rights company selling the packages.
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Deal is imminent and he mentioned ITV that sounded like a slip.
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Tarkus wrote:Deal is imminent and he mentioned ITV that sounded like a slip.
Would ITV show some free and Groves/Eubank PPV for example - wonder how they'd package it.
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These fights are too good to not be televised, it would be a real shame for boxing fans. I think it's a good opportunity to put some £10 PPVs out, each of them would probably do ok, but I think they might get greedy and want more. Be excellent if they did some free, some PPV, but the promoters have spent big on this tournament so I assume they're going to go down the PPV route.
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3132DW wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Deal is imminent and he mentioned ITV that sounded like a slip.
Would ITV show some free and Groves/Eubank PPV for example - wonder how they'd package it.
Sounds like that's what's planned for the German TV rights:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/08/med ... er-series/

If it's ITV I'd expect the whole cruiserweight tournament to be free to air due to the lack of Brits in it. In terms of the super middleweight side of things it'll probably be a combination of free to air and PPV. Callum Smith fights on 16th September, Chris Eubank on the 7th October and George Groves on 14th October. Can't see ITV doing PPV for all of these shows, it'd be 3 PPV's in 4 weeks! You've also got a couple of significant clashes in terms of boxing fixtures. Callum Smith Vs. Erik Skoglund is on the same night as Billy Joe Saunders Vs. Willie Munroe Jr. and Canelo Vs. Golovkin. Chris Eubank Jr. Vs. Avni Yildirim is on the same night as Anthony Crolla Vs. Ricky Burns. If I had to guess I'd say Groves Vs. Cox will be PPV.
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chad wrote:
3132DW wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Deal is imminent and he mentioned ITV that sounded like a slip.
Would ITV show some free and Groves/Eubank PPV for example - wonder how they'd package it.
Sounds like that's what's planned for the German TV rights:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/08/med ... er-series/

If it's ITV I'd expect the whole cruiserweight tournament to be free to air due to the lack of Brits in it. In terms of the super middleweight side of things it'll probably be a combination of free to air and PPV. Callum Smith fights on 16th September, Chris Eubank on the 7th October and George Groves on 14th October. Can't see ITV doing PPV for all of these shows, it'd be 3 PPV's in 4 weeks! You've also got a couple of significant clashes in terms of boxing fixtures. Callum Smith Vs. Erik Skoglund is on the same night as Billy Joe Saunders Vs. Willie Munroe Jr. and Canelo Vs. Golovkin. Chris Eubank Jr. Vs. Avni Yildirim is on the same night as Anthony Crolla Vs. Ricky Burns. If I had to guess I'd say Groves Vs. Cox will be PPV.

Can you really see the Eubanks taking a step back & not being seen as a PPV fighter? Plus the audience they'll be going after won't even know who Crolla or Burns are!! I reckon that & Groves/Cox will be on PPV if shown on ITV.

Can't believe how half-assed this is, a tournament with some genuine world talent, three of which are domestic names & Groves & Eubanks Jr both seen as "PPV Stars" & yet still no announcement of a TV deal. Doesn't look great.
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14 days until Callum SMith fight, still nothng in the UK? You'd have thought they'd have got their ducks in a row for this before announcing the fights even.
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chad wrote:I love the concept but have concerns it's going to be a disaster.

The way they are selling the rights may hold them back. You've got to buy both tournaments meaning 14 fight nights over 8 months. Are HBO or Showtime likely to pick this up in America? It's becoming very clear that the tournament is unlikely to be picked up by SKY Sports in the UK even though Eddie Hearn has 3 fighters in the tournament. How much interest does this tournament really have outwith Europe? 13 of the 16 fighters are European. The Super Middleweight tournament doesn't really feature the biggest names and champions of the division.

The Cruiserweight tournament, to hardcord boxing fans, is fantastic but it's Eastern European heavy. To those who follow the sport this is the tournament that will crown the most legitimate champion. Problem is the Cruiserweight division has always been a hard sell. I can't see any big broadcaster being excited about most of the fights at an early stage.

So many fights over such a short period. There is bound to be injuries, pull outs and controversy along the way. I just can't see the tournament running the course without fights being called off, rescheduled or fighters being replaced.

If big broadcasters don't invest where does the money come from? I know there is big financial backers but if it flops from the start I can't see many more of these taking place.

Until I start seeing the big TV deals being confirmed, I have little hope in the venture.

of course it can ,but
i think it is real fighting no matter what , as long as winners face the winners , but like you say with the injures and time for recovery it could flop in excitement, who knows , every fight could flop but that is sport,take the good with the bad i guess , as long as they don't change the rules and stuff and we have a clear winner. i think it will be a success
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ITV have got it all :box:
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It's also been picked up here in Canada by the Super Channel. Apparently no US deal yet though.
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That's a great result for boxing fans without SKY & B0xnati0n. Sure we'll see some fights on ITV Box Office but the majority of the tournament will be on ITV4 and ITV.
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Any word on the Usyk/Huck fight this Saturday?
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handsofstone wrote:Any word on the Usyk/Huck fight this Saturday?
Nothing yet - they do hopefully have ITV2,3,4 so hopefully on somewhere.

That's what I just said elsewhere - Sat night slots with X-Factor restarted will be rare.
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As long as it's only Eubank vs Smith/Groves or Smith vs Groves on PPV, then I think we'll have a good deal. Unfortunately will miss Usyk vs Huck.

I do hope the undercards are covered, there's a couple of interesting fights on Smith/Skoglund, but I noticed it's 9.30pm start.
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The way they are doing this tournament is ridiculous. Having a bunch of individual fights spread across weeks or months, one at a time and piecemeal, instead of having them concentrated on a few cards on a popular tv channel that they could hype up in advance is such a poor strategy. There is no U.S. tv deal yet, and even if they get one, the whole thing is just a bunch of disconnected single bouts with undercards at seemingly random times and happening in random places. Considering the quality of the participants, this tournament is completely ill conceived and non-marketed.
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TheGingerBomber wrote:As long as it's only Eubank vs Smith/Groves or Smith vs Groves on PPV, then I think we'll have a good deal. Unfortunately will miss Usyk vs Huck.

I do hope the undercards are covered, there's a couple of interesting fights on Smith/Skoglund, but I noticed it's 9.30pm start.
The 9:30 start will be just for the main event, the undercard will no doubt be on one of itv's other channels during x factor.
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TheGingerBomber wrote:As long as it's only Eubank vs Smith/Groves or Smith vs Groves on PPV, then I think we'll have a good deal. Unfortunately will miss Usyk vs Huck.

I do hope the undercards are covered, there's a couple of interesting fights on Smith/Skoglund, but I noticed it's 9.30pm start.
Usyk v huck is on free on the box office channel for itv
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Yh Usyk-Huck is free this Saturday
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Great tournaments. Really looking forward to both. Very excited and feel lucky these are happening.
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Oiky wrote:Yh Usyk-Huck is free this Saturday
Delayed broadcast which is pretty shit
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Didn't they say during the football that ITV 4 was showing the Callum Smith fight?
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