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Kalan wrote:Al Haymon isn't a promoter... He calls himself an "adviser" and takes 10% or so from about 150 boxers so he is getting rich.

But many of his boxers languish because he has his favorites and his unfavorites. Gary Russell is the best Featherweight, but he's getting crap fights. Beterbiev is getting nothing. Haymon has people working for him that make phone calls and help him put together matches. He's come up with all of Wilder's opponents, but for a Heavyweight Champion with 6 Heavyweight Championship fights, Wilder hasn't made a lot of money.

Wilder has yet to face a top Heavyweight. Now that Haymon has both Oritz and Wilder maybe that fight will be made because Ortiz is 38. It's fight that would be high profile and keep the title under the Haymon banner. It's the kind of fight Haymon puts together. However Russell, Santa Cruz, Frampton, and Selby all use Haymon I believe.. You would think Russell would get a chance to knock those guys out, but he's not getting a thing.. A lot of boxers think Haymon is the magic pill they need -- but it just ties them up contractually and doesn't work out for them. When you have so many boxers how the Hell can you pay attention to all of them? It's an impossible situation for Beterbiev.

Badhusker wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Why did Haymon not make dozens of potential great matchups available to him? I'll tell you why. Because he's a sh*tty promoter.

He tries to make his money in the Boxing game through shady backdoor deals and loopholes instead of actually putting out a worthwhile product most of the time.

I didn't think Haymon was a promoter? Or is he both?

I think he is responsible for putting together some pretty good fights over the last year or two, as compared to the other big promoters....but yeah, he sure could do more.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Why did Haymon not make dozens of potential great matchups available to him? I'll tell you why. Because he's a sh*tty promoter.

He tries to make his money in the Boxing game through shady backdoor deals and loopholes instead of actually putting out a worthwhile product most of the time.

I didn't think Haymon was a promoter? Or is he both?

I think he is responsible for putting together some pretty good fights over the last year or two, as compared to the other big promoters....but yeah, he sure could do more.

Legally he can't be a promoter and an adviser, but he arranges the fights and just has a figurehead as promoter. Like Floyd used to do with GBP.

Badhusker wrote:

Kalan wrote:Al Haymon isn't a promoter... He calls himself an "adviser" and takes 10% or so from about 150 boxers so he is getting rich.

But many of his boxers languish because he has his favorites and his unfavorites. Gary Russell is the best Featherweight, but he's getting crap fights. Beterbiev is getting nothing. Haymon has people working for him that make phone calls and help him put together matches. He's come up with all of Wilder's opponents, but for a Heavyweight Champion with 6 Heavyweight Championship fights, Wilder hasn't made a lot of money.

Wilder has yet to face a top Heavyweight. Now that Haymon has both Oritz and Wilder maybe that fight will be made because Ortiz is 38. It's fight that would be high profile and keep the title under the Haymon banner. It's the kind of fight Haymon puts together. However Russell, Santa Cruz, Frampton, and Selby all use Haymon I believe.. You would think Russell would get a chance to knock those guys out, but he's not getting a thing.. A lot of boxers think Haymon is the magic pill they need -- but it just ties them up contractually and doesn't work out for them. When you have so many boxers how the Hell can you pay attention to all of them? It's an impossible situation for Beterbiev.

Didn't Haymon get Russell a fight with Lomachenko? That's a pretty high profile fight. Maybe Haymon doesn't think he is ready for Cruz, Frampton, etc. Maybe he could try to get Rigo?

KiwiRider wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Question to boxing fans... Why did Al Haymon not match Stevenson vs Beterbiev in a Lt Hwt superfight? Was he protecting his one preferred fraud star from a bona fide Russian beast? Or was it just a coincidence that Haymon never got the idea to match Stevenson vs Beterbiev?

Already our learnered posters have given many good and some rather bizzare reasons why not.
I think the most simple reason is probably closest to the truth.
Money.
There is no money in it.
We know who Betatape is, the general public don't.