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Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 10:36
by CaptainSpacerod
mickey1975 wrote:
Hughie Fury.
I was thinking of Tyson.
It's debatable whether Hughie has the skills or not but I don't think he's physically strong enough to ward off a big lump like Miller. His energy would get sapped pretty quickly and he'd end up shipping punishment on the ropes.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 12:05
by PredatorHayds
Washington would be a cracking HW if he had more pop, more importantly confidence/heart. He didn't fancy the Miller fight after 30 seconds.
Miller doesn't hit hard enough and gets hit far to easy.
The best of these USA Hw's around the #10-25 mark is Breazeale by a million miles.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 14:09
by crusader
I'm not really sure that Breazeale is better than Miller. I still think Kassi had a strong case for beating DB, and the latter's best wins were life and deaths with C+ level guys. He didn't actually win a round against Masnour (50-44 x3)...
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 14:47
by Autobarn
Tomasino wrote:
Skelton looks as bad kickboxing as he did boxing.
Yes he was messy and a spoiler
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 15:31
by Oiky
KiwiRider wrote:Oiky wrote:Not really too impressed with Miller just yet tbh
He is 29. If he was under 25 I would say give him time and less cheeseburgers. But at 29 your possibly looking at the finished product and the finished product is set for a recall the first time he jumps in the ring with a half decent opponent, or anyone with decent power.
I agree mate
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 15:46
by KiwiRider
CaptainSpacerod wrote:TheCobra wrote:
He just gave up very early on. Someone with the skillset of Washington + some belief + some stamina would have been able to just outbox Miller and win on points. Washington was intimidated and gave up.
It's not very often you'll see a heavyweight have the stamina to dance for ten rounds against a bigger opponent. Whenever Wash engaged him he'd land nice punches but Miller just walked through em.
Who of the current crop could see off Miller just by outboxing him ?
Joseph Parker's last three went 12 rounds - Takem, Ruiez and Cojanu.
Ruiez's workrate was as high as Washington's was in the first two rounds except Andy dit that for 10 of the 12, Takem got a bit gassed toward the 9-11 round mark but finished well in the 12th. Wlad and AJ would have easilly done 12 if not for the stoppage. Wilder always shows up supremely fit, and as long as he dosent get hit too much would be there for 10 or 12. Whyte and Chisora went 10 sometimes ponderous rounds. Adam baby face could do 10 with a high work rate, the list goes on...
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 06:51
by PredatorHayds
crusader wrote:I'm not really sure that Breazeale is better than Miller. I still think Kassi had a strong case for beating DB, and the latter's best wins were life and deaths with C+ level guys. He didn't actually win a round against Masnour (50-44 x3)...
He's showed heart in every fight I've seen him in.
In a weird way he impressed me in the Mansour fight. Even though he was losing rounds he showed heart and grit. I know Mansour suffered a injury but I thought Breazeale would of pulled it off anyway.
Similar to Ugonoh fight. Went down, showed heart and fought through.
He's no world beater but always in good fights. I'd enjoy watching Miller-Breazeale. Personally I'd favour Breazeale.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 16:09
by BitPlayer
PredatorHayds wrote:Washington would be a cracking HW if he had more pop, more importantly confidence/heart. He didn't fancy the Miller fight after 30 seconds.
Miller doesn't hit hard enough and gets hit far to easy.
The best of these USA Hw's around the #10-25 mark is Breazeale by a million miles.
Breazeale has to be one of the slowest boxers I've ever seen, I amazed he seems to get rated so highly.
If nothing else, Mansour by all rights should have beaten him, so he'd be the best.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 16:21
by PredatorHayds
BitPlayer wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Washington would be a cracking HW if he had more pop, more importantly confidence/heart. He didn't fancy the Miller fight after 30 seconds.
Miller doesn't hit hard enough and gets hit far to easy.
The best of these USA Hw's around the #10-25 mark is Breazeale by a million miles.
Breazeale has to be one of the slowest boxers I've ever seen, I amazed he seems to get rated so highly.
If nothing else, Mansour by all rights should have beaten him, so he'd be the best.
But he didn't beat him.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 16:57
by BitPlayer
PredatorHayds wrote:BitPlayer wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Washington would be a cracking HW if he had more pop, more importantly confidence/heart. He didn't fancy the Miller fight after 30 seconds.
Miller doesn't hit hard enough and gets hit far to easy.
The best of these USA Hw's around the #10-25 mark is Breazeale by a million miles.
Breazeale has to be one of the slowest boxers I've ever seen, I amazed he seems to get rated so highly.
If nothing else, Mansour by all rights should have beaten him, so he'd be the best.
But he didn't beat him.
Yeah because of an issue with Mansour's gumgaurd and his cold. Despite which he still was battering him.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 06:45
by PredatorHayds
He's been easy to outbox but found a way to win on two occasions now.
Yes Mansour was ahead but he bit through his tongue after Breazeale landed a punch.
It was a accident but still caused by Breazeale.
I can't rate Mansour above Breazeale just because he was ahead. At the end of the day Breazeale beat him.
I can see them trying to get a Breazeale-Wilder fight down the line after their hotel fracas.
Miller-Breazeale would be a good fight.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 08:22
by moogie101
Surprised at all the positive comments here as I thought he looked slow & sluggish myself.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 08:35
by Bard of Boxrec
Miller looked dreadful. By today's standard's of course he just looked average.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 19:27
by KiwiRider
Riddick Blowe wrote:Miller looked dreadful. By today's standard's of course he just looked average.
If he looked dreadful in shorts, imagine him in a G-string!
Miller took aim at unified Heavyweight champion, Anthony Joshua (19-0, 19 KO’s).
“Anthony Joshua, I can’t stand him,” Miller said. “That Calvin Klein G-string wearing bum
I often think my missus could picture AJ in one, but Miller in one would have her feeling queezy
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 08 Aug 2017, 03:42
by olij999
The phrase "Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb" made me smile - it's faint praise indeed, and says it all about a lot of heavyweight contenders.
Re: Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb
Posted: 08 Aug 2017, 11:45
by kbackup408
olij999 wrote:The phrase "Miller moves around nicely for someone at 298lb" made me smile - it's faint praise indeed, and says it all about a lot of heavyweight contenders.
cheers pal first thing that popped into my ed while watching that bout haha!