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Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 17:34
by 3132DW
mickey1975 wrote:KiwiRider wrote:When Manny agreed to fight Horn at Brisbane and didn't take it seriously.
Ohara Davis thinking he could throw his defence out the window and attack Taylor recklessly like the last few easy beats he was up against.
Ohara for signing for that fight.
He got £150-£175k - can't knock him for taking that - big purse for domestic fight.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 17:55
by mickey1975
KiwiRider wrote:mickey1975 wrote:KiwiRider wrote:When Manny agreed to fight Horn at Brisbane and didn't take it seriously.
Ohara Davis thinking he could throw his defence out the window and attack Taylor recklessly like the last few easy beats he was up against.
Ohara for signing for that fight.
He had to step up in the UK before going to EU level. I thought it was about the right time. It was sheer carelessness and overconfidence that led to his undoing. He could have won that fight on the outside, as everyone expected him to.
And that's coming from a Tartan Terror fan (me

)
He couldn't have. He was second best in all departments.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 17:57
by crusader
mickey1975 wrote:KiwiRider wrote:mickey1975 wrote:
Ohara for signing for that fight.
He had to step up in the UK before going to EU level. I thought it was about the right time. It was sheer carelessness and overconfidence that led to his undoing. He could have won that fight on the outside, as everyone expected him to.
And that's coming from a Tartan Terror fan (me

)
He couldn't have. He was second best in all departments.
Agreed....just not on the same level at all and never was. Bit of a hypejob IMO...
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 17:58
by Counter-puncher
KiwiRider wrote: He could have won that fight on the outside, as everyone expected him to.
Totally disagree. Nothing he did from the outside convinced me had could beat Taylor with any kind of gameplan
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 19:32
by Taansend
handsofstone wrote:Yusuf Mack when he took a sip of that drink in a house full of bulking strangers

Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 19:33
by Douglas Pink
Counter-puncher wrote:KiwiRider wrote: He could have won that fight on the outside, as everyone expected him to.
Whose everyone, your workmates
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 19:34
by Taansend
Douglas Pink wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:KiwiRider wrote: He could have won that fight on the outside, as everyone expected him to.
Whose everyone, your workmates
His workmates are farmyard animals
![[icon_knockout.gif] :KO:](./images/smilies/icon_knockout.gif)
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 20:14
by jameswilson
Taansend wrote:Douglas Pink wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:
Whose everyone, your workmates
His workmates are farmyard animals
![[icon_knockout.gif] :KO:](./images/smilies/icon_knockout.gif)
Ironically so is Douglas Pink.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 20:15
by KiwiRider
Taansend wrote:Douglas Pink wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:
Whose everyone, your workmates
His workmates are farmyard animals
![[icon_knockout.gif] :KO:](./images/smilies/icon_knockout.gif)
Border Collies are pretty smart

Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 20:22
by KiwiRider
Douglas Pink wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:KiwiRider wrote: He could have won that fight on the outside, as everyone expected him to.
Whose everyone, your workmates
Have a look who backed him for yourself;
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... ara+davies
I'm not going to name names

Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 00:26
by forcefraser
Paul Smith after refusing to take off his fat suit
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 03:10
by mickey1975
Looking at that, almost everyone tipped Taylor! Some, myself included, were very surprised OD took it. Crusader had it down to a tee from the second it was signed!
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 05:30
by Matt W
Donald Curry when he agreed to stay at welter and fight Lloyd Honeyghan.
Meldrick Taylor when Richard Steele stopped the fight with JCC (although chances are he would never have been the same again anyway after the punishment he took that night).
David Reid when he knocked down Tito Trinidad.
Kelly Pavlik when he agreed to fight Bernard Hopkins.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 05:55
by PredatorHayds
When Joe Gallagher and Scott Quigg got told the Sky scorecard after 6 rounds against Frampton.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 07:40
by Rexob
crusader wrote:Groves's career hasn't gone tits up at all...the Froch fights helped his profile if anything.
Hes done well to get his prestigious interim WBA belt but you can't get much worse than getting ktfo in front of
80 thousand people.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 08:16
by Taansend
Rexob wrote:crusader wrote:Groves's career hasn't gone tits up at all...the Froch fights helped his profile if anything.
Hes done well to get his prestigious interim WBA belt but you can't get much worse than getting ktfo in front of
80 thousand people.
Getting knocked out in front of 80,000 people against an all time great British fighter for a huge purse is much better than getting knocked out in front of 300 people in a small town show in Warwickshire (nothing against Warwickshire).
You could do a lot worse than Groves career. In fact 99% of boxers do do a lot worse.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 08:49
by black panther
Taansend wrote:Rexob wrote:crusader wrote:Groves's career hasn't gone tits up at all...the Froch fights helped his profile if anything.
Hes done well to get his prestigious interim WBA belt but you can't get much worse than getting ktfo in front of
80 thousand people.
Getting knocked out in front of 80,000 people
When and where and by whom? I wasn't aware this happened or has ever been mentioned.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 09:11
by thepocketrocket
Rexob wrote:crusader wrote:Groves's career hasn't gone tits up at all...the Froch fights helped his profile if anything.
Hes done well to get his prestigious interim WBA belt but you can't get much worse than getting ktfo in front of
80 thousand people.
Interim? He has the super belt. i hate the proliferation of belts but this is the top rung one. If you are going to make a cheap joke at a fighters expense, you may as well make sure your punchline is correct.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 11:13
by ElJefe
When Price failed to finish off Thompson after the knockdown in the 2nd fight.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 13:06
by Boxerbeetle
mickey1975 wrote:
Looking at that, almost everyone tipped Taylor! Some, myself included, were very surprised OD took it. Crusader had it down to a tee from the second it was signed!
Billy Nelson got it absolutely spot on.
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 13:22
by crusader
Before it was signed, and when it was first signed, Taylor was a sizable favourite it seemed--most people saw levels between him and Davies. By fight night it had somehow turned into a 50/50...
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 13:49
by Kilsby
Eubank Srn...
When Collins said he had been hypnotised and couldn't/wouldn't feel pain.
With what had gone on with Watson, that was Eubank done right there and then.... Especially when Collins was hurt it the first fight and Eubank didn't step on the gas!
Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 13:51
by Kilsby
When Michael Spinks signed to fight Tyson!

Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 13:55
by Kilsby
When GGG believed he could beat a ginger haired Mexican without nailing him to the canvas for 10 seconds.....
Not a hope in hell of winning this one on the cards!

Re: The Moment It All Went Wrong......
Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 15:55
by KiwiRider
Kilsby wrote:When GGG believed he could beat a ginger haired Mexican without nailing him to the canvas for 10 seconds.....
Not a hope in hell of winning this one on the cards!

I'm not so sure if it was a bad decision.
It's going to be GGG's biggest payday, and even if he loses, he dosent lose all his belts so he still has a viable career afterwards.
And if he wins?
Rematch with an even bigger payday?
PPV star?
Huge world wide exposure no matter what the outcome. And nice chunk of cash towards his retirement.