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Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 13:47
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tanzio wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Great win by Nery!!

I do not agree that it was a FOTY candidate..
:lol:
:roll: Not even close.
I didn't say it was. :roll:

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 13:58
by Tanzio
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
:lol:
:roll: Not even close.
I didn't say it was. :roll:
. . . and?

It wasn't that great in the first two rounds either. Nice boxing by Nery while figuring Yamanaka out. Definitely my kind of excellent boxing match but I saw no evidence of a possible FOTY.

If Yamanaka could have survived the fourth and made a back and forth war of it then it could have I suppose, but that did not happen. Yamanaka clearly edged the first three rounds, imo. Nery figured him out and pounded him into submission in the fourth.

Great win, that I did not expect, for Nery. Love his style, gifts, skill, and toughness. He is formidable.

Hopefully Yamanaka retires.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:04
by Tanzio
Datsue wrote:@Tanzio: I agree with everything apart from the "stopped it early" thing.

Yamanaka had taken about forty full-blooded bombs, couldn't defend himself properly & was reeling all over the place. Furthermore, he didn't complain, needed to be helped back to his corner & (most tellingly) didn't seem to know what was going on.

I genuinely thought he was so out of it in the corner afterwards that he simply could not tell why Nery was bouncing all over the ropes; at one point he's taking a drink & then he looks up at Nery climbing the ropes & he asks his cornerman something & you can see genuine surprise register on his face when the dude leans down & whispers in his ear.

I think if a guy's sustained enough damage to not know where he is/what's going on & his corner stop it, that's a good, justified stoppage. Wish more boxers' corners cared about their charges enough to do so.
Fair enough. I have no problem with it, and I certainly am not interested in a great champion like Yamanaka being seriously damaged at the end of his career.

At the moment I thought he might make it through the round. I did not watch much post fight at all. Nery was in control. I suppose that I was hoping that a great champion could turn it around for an epic win.

Another great case for consciously taking a knee at the right time like I believe that AJ had the ring sense to do when pole axed by Wlad.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tanzio wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tanzio wrote: :roll: Not even close.
I didn't say it was. :roll:
. . . and?

It wasn't that great in the first two rounds either. Nice boxing by Nery while figuring Yamanaka out. Definitely my kind of excellent boxing match but I saw no evidence of a possible FOTY.

If Yamanaka could have survived the fourth and made a back and forth war of it then it could have I suppose, but that did not happen. Yamanaka clearly edged the first three rounds, imo. Nery figured him out and pounded him into submission in the fourth.

Great win, that I did not expect, for Nery. Love his style, gifts, skill, and toughness. He is formidable.

Hopefully Yamanaka retires.

Annnnd you disagreed with something I never said. Whatever, far be it for you to admit you read something wrong. Carry on, fight never appeared like it could be special. :roll:

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:12
by Tanzio
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
I didn't say it was. :roll:
. . . and?

It wasn't that great in the first two rounds either. Nice boxing by Nery while figuring Yamanaka out. Definitely my kind of excellent boxing match but I saw no evidence of a possible FOTY.

If Yamanaka could have survived the fourth and made a back and forth war of it then it could have I suppose, but that did not happen. Yamanaka clearly edged the first three rounds, imo. Nery figured him out and pounded him into submission in the fourth.

Great win, that I did not expect, for Nery. Love his style, gifts, skill, and toughness. He is formidable.

Hopefully Yamanaka retires.

Annnnd you disagreed with something I never said. Whatever, far be it for you to admit you read something wrong. Carry on, fight never appeared like it could be special. :roll:
. . . and far be from you to be anything but an asswipe, lately.

Whatever your personal issues are, fix them.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:13
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tanzio wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tanzio wrote: . . . and?

It wasn't that great in the first two rounds either. Nice boxing by Nery while figuring Yamanaka out. Definitely my kind of excellent boxing match but I saw no evidence of a possible FOTY.

If Yamanaka could have survived the fourth and made a back and forth war of it then it could have I suppose, but that did not happen. Yamanaka clearly edged the first three rounds, imo. Nery figured him out and pounded him into submission in the fourth.

Great win, that I did not expect, for Nery. Love his style, gifts, skill, and toughness. He is formidable.

Hopefully Yamanaka retires.

Annnnd you disagreed with something I never said. Whatever, far be it for you to admit you read something wrong. Carry on, fight never appeared like it could be special. :roll:
. . . and far be from you to be anything but an asswipe, lately.

Whatever your personal issues are, fix them.
I'll take lately over perpetually, which is what you are. My personal life is none of your business, cuuunt.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:17
by Blodhemn
:lol:

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:19
by javier_83
it was a good techincal fight!!

and a very good victory for the young mexican!! i was able to watch live the fight!! we have a new world champion!!

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:22
by SaadOffTheDeck
I thought yamanaka's straight shots would beat Nery's wide ones. Yamanaka was straight up with his head on a tee for them, amazing he never went down. Nery reminds me of a much bigger punching Fortuna.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:28
by Deno1986
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:
HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:
Keep us updated if you can. Wanna know the result but at work.
X2. Thanks Saad
Sorry guys, it was 6 am and I was watching in bed, rolled back over after it was over. Crazy fight.
No worries. As it turns out I only found out the result an hour ago because something came up in work.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:32
by Tanzio
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Annnnd you disagreed with something I never said. Whatever, far be it for you to admit you read something wrong. Carry on, fight never appeared like it could be special. :roll:
. . . and far be from you to be anything but an asswipe, lately.

Whatever your personal issues are, fix them.
I'll take lately over perpetually, which is what you are. My personal life is none of your business, cuuunt.
Says the grownup sized vulva parsing posts.

It wasn't an FOTY candidate and it never showed any evidence of possibly being an FOTY candidate. Clear enough for you, Professor Skidmark?

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
If only you could express yourself properly the first time you might avoid your profound similarities to Trump. A big time CEO bragging about all of his properties and businesses all over the world while digging in for his of so fulfilling internet battles where he gets to use classics like skidmark to try and get under a grown mans skin. Maybe if you get more upset I can get one of your ridiculously lame nicknames. Half the time nobody knows who the fornicate you're talking about.

Ramming Speed! Oh so clever, Mr. Trump.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:55
by Tangerine
i had yamanaka up 2-1.i dont think it went on long enough to be considered a FOTY contender but it had the makings of one just needed 3 or 4 more rounds.

that first round yamanaka was the one forcing it he was sticking the jab into nerys face and that straight left was still snappy.then into the second Nery has flipped it round and hes the one forcing it,Yamanaka now on the backfoot.3rd round Yamanaka turns it round again,theres a 5 second flurry from nery in that round but i think Yamanaks jab and the straight lefts were far better work for 2 and half minutes.

it was a good stoppage by the corner as Yamanaka was taking a hell of a lot of big shots,too brave for his own good when he shouldve taken a knee at least.Not sure what the score is with Yamanakas corner running in the ring to stop the fight...?I might be wrong here but isnt that a DQ?unless the ref waved it off first :maybe:

the great camera work straight after the stoppage it never leaves Yamanakas face and you can almost read his thoughts as hes sat on his stool with the realisation slowly setting in of what just happened after defending his title 13 times with nery circling the ring on his coaches shoulders walking into shot.great drama!!! :yay:

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 14:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
LancashireLoyal wrote:i had yamanaka up 2-1.i dont think it went on long enough to be considered a FOTY contender but it had the makings of one just needed 3 or 4 more rounds.

that first round yamanaka was the one forcing it he was sticking the jab into nerys face and that straight left was still snappy.then into the second Nery has flipped it round and hes the one forcing it,Yamanaka now on the backfoot.3rd round Yamanaka turns it round again,theres a 5 second flurry from nery in that round but i think Yamanaks jab and the straight lefts were far better work for 2 and half minutes.

it was a good stoppage by the corner as Yamanaka was taking a hell of a lot of big shots,too brave for his own good when he shouldve taken a knee at least.Not sure what the score is with Yamanakas corner running in the ring to stop the fight...?I might be wrong here but isnt that a DQ?unless the ref waved it off first :maybe:

the great camera work straight after the stoppage it never leaves Yamanakas face and you can almost read his thoughts as hes sat on his stool with the realisation slowly setting in of what just happened after defending his title 13 times with nery circling the ring on his coaches shoulders walking into shot.great drama!!! :yay:
Agreed, you could see it was going to break out. Nery got rid of him before it escalated to that level. Also thought it was good stoppage, he was fighting back while eating one flush shot after another. Nery couldn't miss him.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 12:30
by Lackeos
Nery (age 22) is now the youngest fighter in boxrec's p4p top 10 by 3 years. We have found the future king.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 12:38
by Datsue

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 13:39
by gilgamesh
Lackeos wrote:Nery (age 22) is now the youngest fighter in boxrec's p4p top 10 by 3 years. We have found the future king.
He's not P4P Top 10. He's not P4P Top 40.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 12:29
by Andrew
gilgamesh wrote:
Lackeos wrote:Nery (age 22) is now the youngest fighter in boxrec's p4p top 10 by 3 years. We have found the future king.
He's not P4P Top 10. He's not P4P Top 40.
He has to be within p4p top 40 surely.

Most people would have had Yamanaka around top 10 p4p at least top 20. Ring had him 9 or 10.

Nery just destroyed the unbeaten Lineal Champion and clear number 1 Bantamweight in their home country. There aren't 40 active fighters who have done that.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 13:22
by gilgamesh
Naandrew wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Lackeos wrote:Nery (age 22) is now the youngest fighter in boxrec's p4p top 10 by 3 years. We have found the future king.
He's not P4P Top 10. He's not P4P Top 40.
He has to be within p4p top 40 surely.

Most people would have had Yamanaka around top 10 p4p at least top 20. Ring had him 9 or 10.

Nery just destroyed the unbeaten Lineal Champion and clear number 1 Bantamweight in their home country. There aren't 40 active fighters who have done that.
Yeah you're probably right. I don't expect his reign is gonna last long though. He's a wild fighter.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 13:29
by crusader
I think he can reign for a while. He is open and can be a bit crude, but he's also very strong and I imagine that he'd overwhelm most of the guys ranked by the WBC.

August rankings:

1 .- Luis Nery (Mexico)
2 .- Emmanuel Rodriguez (P. Rico) LATINO
3 .- Petch Sor Chitpattana (Thai)
4 .- Nordine Ouabaali (France) SILVER
5 .- Mark John Yap (Phil) OPBF
6 .- Karim Guerfi (France) EBU
7 .- Juan Carlos Payano (Dom. R.)
8 .- Lee Haskins (GB) * CBP/P
9 .- Rodrigo Guerrero (Mexico)
10 .- Arthur Villanueva (Phil)
11 .- Michael Dasmarinas (Phil)
12 .- Oscar Negrete (Colombia/US) NABF * CBP/P
13 .- Duke Micah (Ghana) COMM/INTL * CBP/P
14 .- Shohei Omori (Japan) * CBP/P
15 .- Mzuvukile Magwaca (South Africa) * CBP/P

I wouldn't say that any of the other champs at 118 are clearly better than him either.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 23 Aug 2017, 17:38
by Andrew

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 23 Aug 2017, 17:41
by crusader
Ah, that good ole' Mexican meat again...

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 23 Aug 2017, 18:06
by asdfjkl
Luis Nery is a Mexican right? Then they will probably let him get away with it.

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 23 Aug 2017, 20:24
by Boxing Prospect
What's interesting about this is Nery almost seemed to brag about his ability to put weight on.
As for Nery his comments to the media was about his ability to put weight back on and he's stated that he will put on around 18lbs between this morning's weigh in and fight time, essentially making him a Lightweight in the ring.
http://www.asianboxing.info/asian-news/ ... -at-118lbs

Would be very interesting to see his ACTUAL weight on the night as a 15% increase is bloody huge! It might not seem like a major isue, but in a way cheating the scales, in a similar (but reverse I guess) manner to using a diuretic

Re: Yamanaka/Nery

Posted: 23 Aug 2017, 21:31
by boxing_rocks
Didn't Nery just test positive for steroids?

Found it: https://www.ringtv.com/514971-wbc-nery- ... aka-fight/