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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 11:12
by crusader
Of course opinions are often swayed based on who one likes more, and we can see that some people try to maintain that theyre being fair and impartial when they obviously arent. It's especially clear when someone deems pretty much the same factors (e.g. age/being past best and lack of clout against a bigger draw) to be laughable excuses when people mention them for GGG-Canelo, yet fair play and worth immediately mentioning for this fight.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 06:49
by crusader
https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 9329790977

Has there ever been a pro fight between multiple time Olympic gold medalists?

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 08:00
by marvelous marv
I don't see this as a winnable fight for Rigo. He employs a defensive style partly in my opinion due to a suspect chin. He may get seriously exposed.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 12:09
by davie
marvelous marv wrote:I don't see this as a winnable fight for Rigo. He employs a defensive style partly in my opinion due to a suspect chin. He may get seriously exposed.
If anyone has the ability to do that it's Loma but does he have the power. The weight difference may be telling.

I can see Rigo being very hard to hit and being edged out on points

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 12:45
by greg
NateJR wrote:
This is laughable, Loma is great but he isn't and will never be better than Mayweather. You live in you fairytale world, but Loma isn't all that.
..may I enquire why not? have you got that crystal ball we haven't? :o ...may I assume it's because he won't have that hometown advantage..or is that because of that loss and he's got a huge blemish on his record? :OhYes:

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 20:49
by NateJR
greg wrote:
NateJR wrote:
This is laughable, Loma is great but he isn't and will never be better than Mayweather. You live in you fairytale world, but Loma isn't all that.
..may I enquire why not? have you got that crystal ball we haven't? :o ...may I assume it's because he won't have that hometown advantage..or is that because of that loss and he's got a huge blemish on his record? :OhYes:
Because he's simple not as good as Floyd. Skill wise, speed wise, defensively, power, ring smarts. I can't think of one quality I'd give Lomachenko a edge over Floyd on other than work rate, but you put this current version of Lomachenko in the ring with any version of Floyd past 20 years old, Floyd beats him.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 01:46
by ClivePatrickLyons
Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:11
by victor-romeo
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
2 Olympic gold medals, win over Gary Russell jr all hype ...

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:32
by davie
What weight class is this being fought at?
Featherweight?

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:36
by ClivePatrickLyons
victor-romeo wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
2 Olympic gold medals, win over Gary Russell jr all hype ...

What the efff has gold medals got to do with professional boxing and Garry Russel jr well that will f.cking do me what was I thinking :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:36
by crusader
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
How will you rate Loma if he beats Rigo? You didnt seem to be be any more positive about him after you said Walters would beat him and he proved you wrong.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:37
by ClivePatrickLyons
victor-romeo wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
2 Olympic gold medals, win over Gary Russell jr all hype ...


Victor-Romeo this is professional boxing Garry Russell won't change my mind :OhYes: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:40
by ClivePatrickLyons
crusader wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
How will you rate Loma if he beats Rigo? You didnt seem to be be any more positive about him after you said Walters would beat him and he proved you wrong.


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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:43
by ClivePatrickLyons
Crusader you love him mate that's your problem :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 02:44
by crusader
So how will you rate Loma if he proves you wrong again and beats Rigo? Was it that hard of a question?

I think some people do overrate him, but you seem so rattled by their opinions that you're going just as far the other way, and are unwilling to change your view of him even when he wins fights you picked him to lose (like 'Walters in 5'). You're no better than the ones responsible for the excessive hype, and you are just deeming him to be worse than he is instead of better than he is.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 07:26
by Evander
Any word when they might be making the official announcement ?

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 07:47
by Lackeos
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
Lomachenko's got some serious hype about him. But don't count on Rigondeaux to beat him. They are of similar abilities and Lomachenko has a 2-division advantage in size. Should be similar to Mayweather - Marquez; little dude never stood a chance.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 08:56
by Badhusker
With Rigo having to jump two weight classes to finally get the fight, it tells me he wasn't the one putting up roadblocks....it was Arum. Both sides have blamed the other for it not happening. If it was at 126 and 2-3 years ago I would have picked Rigo. If the fight does actually happen, which I am hopeful of but still doubt, Loma should win and possibly stop Rigo. He won't get much credit for it though.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:48
by IKSRTFO
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
It won't happen though. IMO Rigo is a big hype job based off his win over Donaire. You take that away then what is he?

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 10:26
by squiggy
IKSRTFO wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
It won't happen though. IMO Rigo is a big hype job based off his win over Donaire. You take that away then what is he?
Just your run of the mill world-class talent, I suppose.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 10:36
by IKSRTFO
squiggy wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Loma is one of the biggest hype jobs the last 40 years :wave: I really hope and believe Rigo kicks his ass :yay:
It won't happen though. IMO Rigo is a big hype job based off his win over Donaire. You take that away then what is he?
Just your run of the mill world-class talent, I suppose.

As far as his level of opponents, he really is the level of Gamboa.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 12:25
by Ezzard
Both are fantastic fighters. I really want Loma-Davis...but this is the next best thing.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 12:30
by gilgamesh
Ezzard wrote:Both are fantastic fighters. I really want Loma-Davis...but this is the next best thing.
Not really.

Salido 2, Berchelt, Francisco Vargas...all would be more challenging fights than Rigo is gonna be.

The name Rigondeaux is gonna carry more weigh to people though due to his P4P status and unbeaten record. The other 3 would be harder fights for Loma I think.

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 12:51
by apollo creed
gilgamesh wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Both are fantastic fighters. I really want Loma-Davis...but this is the next best thing.
Not really.

Salido 2, Berchelt, Francisco Vargas...all would be more challenging fights than Rigo is gonna be.

The name Rigondeaux is gonna carry more weigh to people though due to his P4P status and unbeaten record. The other 3 would be harder fights for Loma I think.
Agree. Rigo may be a 'cherrypick' for Loma. :OhYes:

Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux Fight Now Inches Away From Reality

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:08
by tiny_acres
I still don't think it'll be Rigo as the opponent.
I could be wrong but tba is normally a stiff. I doubt it will be any major opponent