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Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Jip wrote:
He has atg power regardless who he beats. Garry russel doesnt need to fight a very good opponent for me to judge if he has fast hands or not. It is visible. The same goes for punching power, it is visible if somebody got good or phenomenal power. Davis got it.

He certainly has power. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he has ATG power. I'm not saying his punches are weak or anything, but there have been some PHENOMENAL punchers throughout the sports history. He's got a ways to go before he matches up with the best of them.

He's not even in the biggest puncher in the division right now in his own time.

Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

Francisco Vargas, Miguel Berchelt, Jhonny Gonzalez...probably Nicholas Walters too.

I think he'd beat most if not all of those guys, but I don't think he hits harder than them.

Aint davis a lightweight.

Johnny got atg power, same has davis. Johnny might punch harder yes. Berchelt, Walthers etc no.

Jip wrote:Aint davis a lightweight.

Johnny got atg power, same has davis. Johnny might punch harder yes. Berchelt, Walthers etc no.

Yeah he's about to be I figure. He hasn't previously been a Lightweight though.

I'll just let Davis' record speak for itself as his career goes on. The knockouts are gonna dry up once the level of competition increases.

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Jip wrote:
He has atg power regardless who he beats. Garry russel doesnt need to fight a very good opponent for me to judge if he has fast hands or not. It is visible. The same goes for punching power, it is visible if somebody got good or phenomenal power. Davis got it.

He certainly has power. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he has ATG power. I'm not saying his punches are weak or anything, but there have been some PHENOMENAL punchers throughout the sports history. He's got a ways to go before he matches up with the best of them.

He's not even in the biggest puncher in the division right now in his own time.

Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

He doesn't have ATG power but he does have a dig. ATG power is like McLennan, golovkin, foreman, Hearns etc

And punching power is developed expert. Manny steward turned Hearns from rangey awkward boxer into massive puncher.

Ossyrules wrote:

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
He certainly has power. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he has ATG power. I'm not saying his punches are weak or anything, but there have been some PHENOMENAL punchers throughout the sports history. He's got a ways to go before he matches up with the best of them.

He's not even in the biggest puncher in the division right now in his own time.

Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

He doesn't have ATG power but he does have a dig. ATG power is like McLennan, golovkin, foreman, Hearns etc

And punching power is developed expert. Manny steward turned Hearns from rangey awkward boxer into massive puncher.

Sure is power developed. Julian jackson, had he wasted his prime years watching tv and eating 10 cheeseburger a day he wouldve not been an atg puncher.

But you can develop power just to a certain level. Paulie can develop and train as hardcore as he wants he ll never be a good puncher. Davis aint a good puncher, he is phenomenal one nd he was born with it and training was the key to unlock the door, but just for him and a few other. Weak puncher can train all they want, they ll never unlock the door cause they werent born with it.

Hearns always had fantastic power. He t/ko 17 of his first 17 opponents. So shut up and be quiet if you dont know what you talking about.

Jip wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Jip wrote:
Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

He doesn't have ATG power but he does have a dig. ATG power is like McLennan, golovkin, foreman, Hearns etc

And punching power is developed expert. Manny steward turned Hearns from rangey awkward boxer into massive puncher.

Sure is power developed. Julian jackson, had he wasted his prime years watching tv and eating 10 cheeseburger a day he wouldve not been an atg puncher.

But you can develop power just to a certain level. Paulie can develop and train as hardcore as he wants he ll never be a good puncher. Davis aint a good puncher, he is phenomenal one nd he was born with it and training was the key to unlock the door, but just for him and a few other. Weak puncher can train all they want, they ll never unlock the door cause they werent born with it.

Hearns always had fantastic power. He t/ko 17 of his first 17 opponents. So shut up and be quiet if you dont know what you talking about.

You're a lost cause jip

gilgamesh wrote:

Jip wrote:Aint davis a lightweight.

Johnny got atg power, same has davis. Johnny might punch harder yes. Berchelt, Walthers etc no.

Yeah he's about to be I figure. He hasn't previously been a Lightweight though.

I'll just let Davis' record speak for itself as his career goes on. The knockouts are gonna dry up once the level of competition increases.

He wasn't a big Featherweight. This is alarming, a lot of these kids that make it out of life or death poverty find it hard to maintain that drive and focus when they become millionaires.

Oh, and he's a very fast and sharp puncher. Nothing near all time power, but Jip is rarely correct rating anything. Par for the course.

Ossyrules wrote:

Jip wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
He doesn't have ATG power but he does have a dig. ATG power is like McLennan, golovkin, foreman, Hearns etc

And punching power is developed expert. Manny steward turned Hearns from rangey awkward boxer into massive puncher.

Sure is power developed. Julian jackson, had he wasted his prime years watching tv and eating 10 cheeseburger a day he wouldve not been an atg puncher.

But you can develop power just to a certain level. Paulie can develop and train as hardcore as he wants he ll never be a good puncher. Davis aint a good puncher, he is phenomenal one nd he was born with it and training was the key to unlock the door, but just for him and a few other. Weak puncher can train all they want, they ll never unlock the door cause they werent born with it.

Hearns always had fantastic power. He t/ko 17 of his first 17 opponents. So shut up and be quiet if you dont know what you talking about.

You're a lost cause jip

I am 100 % right and sometimes it is better to say "you right" (i did it numerous time even to poster i dislike) instead of doing what you did

Damn dude, add math with Geography and Boxing for subpar subjects for you. You're at least 90% wrong.

Jip wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Jip wrote:
Sure is power developed. Julian jackson, had he wasted his prime years watching tv and eating 10 cheeseburger a day he wouldve not been an atg puncher.

But you can develop power just to a certain level. Paulie can develop and train as hardcore as he wants he ll never be a good puncher. Davis aint a good puncher, he is phenomenal one nd he was born with it and training was the key to unlock the door, but just for him and a few other. Weak puncher can train all they want, they ll never unlock the door cause they werent born with it.

Hearns always had fantastic power. He t/ko 17 of his first 17 opponents. So shut up and be quiet if you dont know what you talking about.

You're a lost cause jip

I am 100 % right and sometimes it is better to say "you right" (i did it numerous time even to poster i dislike) instead of doing what you did

If you are right I'll happily admit it.

One day that day will come

Lackeos wrote:Too many people in this thread saying he's too small for lightweight when he's the same height as Cotto.

I dont think he is. Look at pictures of Cotto with Mayweather, then compare them with pictures of Davis and Mayweather. He looks about 5'5 to me...

If this is a indication of Gervonta being exposed, Lomachenko would take his head off. We shall see how he does at a higher weight class.

gilgamesh wrote:

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
He certainly has power. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he has ATG power. I'm not saying his punches are weak or anything, but there have been some PHENOMENAL punchers throughout the sports history. He's got a ways to go before he matches up with the best of them.

He's not even in the biggest puncher in the division right now in his own time.

Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

Francisco Vargas, Miguel Berchelt, Jhonny Gonzalez...probably Nicholas Walters too.

I think he'd beat most if not all of those guys, but I don't think he hits harder than them.

Mexi-Box wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Jip wrote:
Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

Francisco Vargas, Miguel Berchelt, Jhonny Gonzalez...probably Nicholas Walters too.

I think he'd beat most if not all of those guys, but I don't think he hits harder than them.

Something funny?

The guy I saw tonight loses to Miguel Berchelt.

I was told if you've got nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all but this is 2017 and this is the internet so it doesn't apply. Tank Davis is the new Adrien Broner, I found his clowning and general fight behaviour ridiculous. He needs to grow up. I wish they had put Badou Jack Cleverly the one before the main. Jack handled himself with class and rose to the occasion, a true professional, one to watch out for.

I liked Gervonta Davis, but i was shocked by his unsportsmanlike behavior yesterday. He will end up like Broner, trust me. Too many Mayweathers wannabies today.

I think that GTank hungout with FMJ too much in training. An ATG fighting an over hyped UFC fighter can get away with that. A 22 year old who has proven nothing? Not so much.

Hopefully he gets straightened out. Odds are against him.

Davis going down that About Billions path........

Cent0089 wrote:I liked Gervonta Davis, but i was shocked by his unsportsmanlike behavior yesterday. He will end up like Broner, trust me. Too many Mayweathers wannabies today.

How is not being prepared and doing stupid shit inside the ring emulating Mayweather?

Over-rated His all power Loma will ruin him

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:I liked Gervonta Davis, but i was shocked by his unsportsmanlike behavior yesterday. He will end up like Broner, trust me. Too many Mayweathers wannabies today.

How is not being prepared and doing stupid poo inside the ring emulating Mayweather?

This. No matter what Mayweather may be, one thing he is not is unprepared. In 49 fights, he never once showed up out of shape or unprepared. He was a true professional in that ring and in the gym.

punchoutsb wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:I liked Gervonta Davis, but i was shocked by his unsportsmanlike behavior yesterday. He will end up like Broner, trust me. Too many Mayweathers wannabies today.

How is not being prepared and doing stupid poo inside the ring emulating Mayweather?

This. No matter what Mayweather may be, one thing he is not is unprepared. In 49 fights, he never once showed up out of shape or unprepared. He was a true professional in that ring and in the gym.

Thats why im wrote wannabies

punchoutsb wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:I liked Gervonta Davis, but i was shocked by his unsportsmanlike behavior yesterday. He will end up like Broner, trust me. Too many Mayweathers wannabies today.

How is not being prepared and doing stupid poo inside the ring emulating Mayweather?

This. No matter what Mayweather may be, one thing he is not is unprepared. In 49 fights, he never once showed up out of shape or unprepared. He was a true professional in that ring and in the gym.

I think the comment is more about TMT fighters trying to emulate Floyd's media persona for quick profit than the dedicated showing in the ring, which comes from work outside of the spotlight.

Jip wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Broner #2 in making.

No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.

Broner had massive power at 130 and 135 as well.

Jip wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Jip wrote:
Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?

He doesn't have ATG power but he does have a dig. ATG power is like McLennan, golovkin, foreman, Hearns etc

And punching power is developed expert. Manny steward turned Hearns from rangey awkward boxer into massive puncher.

Sure is power developed. Julian jackson, had he wasted his prime years watching tv and eating 10 cheeseburger a day he wouldve not been an atg puncher.

But you can develop power just to a certain level. Paulie can develop and train as hardcore as he wants he ll never be a good puncher. Davis aint a good puncher, he is phenomenal one nd he was born with it and training was the key to unlock the door, but just for him and a few other. Weak puncher can train all they want, they ll never unlock the door cause they werent born with it.

Hearns always had fantastic power. He t/ko 17 of his first 17 opponents. So shut up and be quiet if you dont know what you talking about.

Not entirely true. Emmanuel Steward said plenty of times that he helped Hearns develop his power as a pro and that he wasn't a puncher as an amateur.