7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
I won't be buying any of those. I'll get the GGG fight for no extra charge as I subscribe to BN. The rest are a joke as PPV.
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kbackup408
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
luck you pal good fight !SteveDow wrote:I won't be buying any of those. I'll get the GGG fight for no extra charge as I subscribe to BN. The rest are a joke as PPV.
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
BN is well worth the 12 quid a month fee.kbackup408 wrote:luck you pal good fight !SteveDow wrote:I won't be buying any of those. I'll get the GGG fight for no extra charge as I subscribe to BN. The rest are a joke as PPV.
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
What channel is Parker v Fury on ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Parker v Fury is farcically on youtube for a tenner!CaptainSpacerod wrote:What channel is Parker v Fury on ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
CaptainSpacerod wrote:What channel is Parker v Fury on ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
Parker/ Fury is apparently going to be a Youtube PPV. WTF, a Heavyweight Title match featuring a British challenger with the Fury surname & that's the best they can do? Surely they'll be so many streams of that it will be ridiculous, not that I'm condoning that sort of thing obviously.
As for Groves/ Cox & the Eubanks fight, the recent PPV success seem to back up that casuals will buy an event for a name they recognise regardless of the quality of the opposition.
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Amazing. Which fkn genius came up with that idea. Mick Hennessey probablySteveDow wrote: Parker v Fury is farcically on youtube for a tenner!
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
What PPV success. If you mean Floyd Conor I think that had a lot of angles from which to draw punters.moogie101 wrote: As for Groves/ Cox & the Eubanks fight, the recent PPV success seem to back up that casuals will buy an event for a name they recognise regardless of the quality of the opposition.
The Groves and Eubank fights are only of interest to "serious" fans for want of a better phrase
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
I didn't mean Conor/ Mayweather, I was referring to some of the shite that has been put on PPV over the last few years that has made money & now every fighter expects to be a PPV Star.CaptainSpacerod wrote:What PPV success. If you mean Floyd Conor I think that had a lot of angles from which to draw punters.moogie101 wrote: As for Groves/ Cox & the Eubanks fight, the recent PPV success seem to back up that casuals will buy an event for a name they recognise regardless of the quality of the opposition.
The Groves and Eubank fights are only of interest to "serious" fans for want of a better phrase
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Lets face it hughie is virtually unknown in the uk.moogie101 wrote:CaptainSpacerod wrote:What channel is Parker v Fury on ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
Parker/ Fury is apparently going to be a Youtube PPV. WTF, a Heavyweight Title match featuring a British challenger with the Fury surname & that's the best they can do? Surely they'll be so many streams of that it will be ridiculous, not that I'm condoning that sort of thing obviously.
As for Groves/ Cox & the Eubanks fight, the recent PPV success seem to back up that casuals will buy an event for a name they recognise regardless of the quality of the opposition.
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Lets face it hughie is virtually unknown in the uk.moogie101 wrote:CaptainSpacerod wrote:What channel is Parker v Fury on ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
Parker/ Fury is apparently going to be a Youtube PPV. WTF, a Heavyweight Title match featuring a British challenger with the Fury surname & that's the best they can do? Surely they'll be so many streams of that it will be ridiculous, not that I'm condoning that sort of thing obviously.
As for Groves/ Cox & the Eubanks fight, the recent PPV success seem to back up that casuals will buy an event for a name they recognise regardless of the quality of the opposition.
Yeah I agree he's not a big name, but as I said if they can't drum up some TV interest with a World Heavyweight title fight, and a British Challenger who is related to Tyson Fury then everyone involved in promoting this fight needs to think of changing careers.
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kbackup408
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
i've had the hump all evening pal once I found out ITV box office is showing the WBSS makes me so frustrated because I actually liked the tournament and its formatCaptainSpacerod wrote:What channel is Parker v Fury on ?
Nobody's heard of either of them, how can that be PPV ?
Groves v Cox - the mind boggles. Cox on his results probably falls short of British level.
Eubank v who - the mind explodes.
How can it be viable to put these on PPV. Will they even sell 10k ?
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
It's unbelievable the sh1te that gets put on PPV these days.kbackup408 wrote:
i've had the hump all evening pal once I found out ITV box office is showing the WBSS makes me so frustrated because I actually liked the tournament and its format
I think the tournament itself, while a decent idea, is a bit 2nd division with regard to the 168 boys. I don't know that much about the cruisers but apparently their tourn has a more stellar line up. Is that PPV as well ?
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kbackup408
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
yes pal the Groves fight is on PPV and i've heard the Smith fight will be on PPV. Honestly things like this make you fall outta love with a sport, having to dish out an extra £20/30/40 quid on fights along side SKY and Virgin is daylight robbery !CaptainSpacerod wrote:It's unbelievable the sh1te that gets put on PPV these days.kbackup408 wrote:
i've had the hump all evening pal once I found out ITV box office is showing the WBSS makes me so frustrated because I actually liked the tournament and its format
I think the tournament itself, while a decent idea, is a bit 2nd division with regard to the 168 boys. I don't know that much about the cruisers but apparently their tourn has a more stellar line up. Is that PPV as well ?
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Surely the cruiserweight tournament won't be PPV. None of the fighters are British and whilst it'll be great to watch, there are no household names involved either.
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
PPV and the question of what fights are 'worth' it is based entirely on how many people are willing to pay for it. It's just basic economics. If you make cars and people will pay a hundred grand for one, that's what they're worth.
Joshua is obviously 'worth' PPV because he keeps getting put on them, doing good figures and making everyone involved loads of money. But someone like Anthony Crolla or Luke Campbell wouldn't, hence they're not.
Which is why I find the Hughie thing so odd. You're not a PPV fighter by virtue of your ability, or record, or anything else beyond your ability to sell, and he just doesn't. I'd be surprised if he makes any real money from the fight whatsoever.
Joshua is obviously 'worth' PPV because he keeps getting put on them, doing good figures and making everyone involved loads of money. But someone like Anthony Crolla or Luke Campbell wouldn't, hence they're not.
Which is why I find the Hughie thing so odd. You're not a PPV fighter by virtue of your ability, or record, or anything else beyond your ability to sell, and he just doesn't. I'd be surprised if he makes any real money from the fight whatsoever.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
They figure they're going to lose money anyway, nobody would pay them for the fight, so any number of buys helps the bottom line.dirk2686 wrote:PPV and the question of what fights are 'worth' it is based entirely on how many people are willing to pay for it. It's just basic economics. If you make cars and people will pay a hundred grand for one, that's what they're worth.
Joshua is obviously 'worth' PPV because he keeps getting put on them, doing good figures and making everyone involved loads of money. But someone like Anthony Crolla or Luke Campbell wouldn't, hence they're not.
Which is why I find the Hughie thing so odd. You're not a PPV fighter by virtue of your ability, or record, or anything else beyond your ability to sell, and he just doesn't. I'd be surprised if he makes any real money from the fight whatsoever.
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Callum smith is on ITV4kbackup408 wrote:Evening lads, I don't mind occasionally paying for a fight but you really are pushing the boundaries when you put so many PPV's one after the another.
I was under the impression the WBSS would be on free to air TV but this is taking the mick!
What do you guys feel or am I just over reacting and this is the norm in boxing now?
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leejonesjnr
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Meh.
Buying a PPV is £20 or less and allows a person to watch a show with a better view for significantly less than buying tickets, fuel, taking time out to travel etc.
Of course everyone would prefer more free to view boxing but I'm not onboard with the idea that stealing PPVs by watching streams and using boxes etc is ok. If you want £16 more than you want to see a show, don't watch it.
Buying a PPV is £20 or less and allows a person to watch a show with a better view for significantly less than buying tickets, fuel, taking time out to travel etc.
Of course everyone would prefer more free to view boxing but I'm not onboard with the idea that stealing PPVs by watching streams and using boxes etc is ok. If you want £16 more than you want to see a show, don't watch it.
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Someone would pay for the fight if they had a sensible price surely? It seems odd that I can watch Parker Cojanu, Parker Ruiz and Parker Takam on UK television across Sky/BN yet when Parker is actually fighting in the UK, against a British opponent, I have to watch it on YouTube.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They figure they're going to lose money anyway, nobody would pay them for the fight, so any number of buys helps the bottom line.dirk2686 wrote:PPV and the question of what fights are 'worth' it is based entirely on how many people are willing to pay for it. It's just basic economics. If you make cars and people will pay a hundred grand for one, that's what they're worth.
Joshua is obviously 'worth' PPV because he keeps getting put on them, doing good figures and making everyone involved loads of money. But someone like Anthony Crolla or Luke Campbell wouldn't, hence they're not.
Which is why I find the Hughie thing so odd. You're not a PPV fighter by virtue of your ability, or record, or anything else beyond your ability to sell, and he just doesn't. I'd be surprised if he makes any real money from the fight whatsoever.
I don't understand what Hennessy must be doing. In Britain we have a dedicated boxing channel, Sky pick up a fair amount of boxing, Channel 5 show boxing as do channels like Dave. The market is booming thanks to the Joshua effect; yet we're back in Froch territory where he can't seem to cut a deal.
Are we really saying a channel like 5 or Dave would rather show a repeat of Americas Dumbest Rednecks than a live, domestic title fight? Of course not. The reason they will is because Hennessy has presumably got his product valuation absolutely all over the place.
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
This.Boxerbeetle wrote:It's ridiculous, but we've allowed it to happen.
If people didn't buy them, nothing would be PPV.
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kbackup408
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
probably one of the most educated answers i've heard on this forum, I agree the Fury situation has totally gone over my head !dirk2686 wrote:PPV and the question of what fights are 'worth' it is based entirely on how many people are willing to pay for it. It's just basic economics. If you make cars and people will pay a hundred grand for one, that's what they're worth.
Joshua is obviously 'worth' PPV because he keeps getting put on them, doing good figures and making everyone involved loads of money. But someone like Anthony Crolla or Luke Campbell wouldn't, hence they're not.
Which is why I find the Hughie thing so odd. You're not a PPV fighter by virtue of your ability, or record, or anything else beyond your ability to sell, and he just doesn't. I'd be surprised if he makes any real money from the fight whatsoever.
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kbackup408
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
thisILikeBeer wrote:This.Boxerbeetle wrote:It's ridiculous, but we've allowed it to happen.
If people didn't buy them, nothing would be PPV.
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Bigdogsnose
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Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
Smith fight is definitely free to view. Listed as ITV4. ITV has a article on their newspage confirming which are free and which are on box office. Glad ITV's getting involved and that some are free but definitely there making a mistake with the groves v cox fight being ppv, and eubank v the Turkish lad. Build it up, let everyone watch the earlier fights, build an interest and then the later rounds can be ppv (Groves v smith, eubank v groves, smith v eubank, you get the picture). I honestly think groves will see cox off in about 4-5 rounds.kbackup408 wrote:yes pal the Groves fight is on PPV and i've heard the Smith fight will be on PPV. Honestly things like this make you fall outta love with a sport, having to dish out an extra £20/30/40 quid on fights along side SKY and Virgin is daylight robbery !CaptainSpacerod wrote:It's unbelievable the sh1te that gets put on PPV these days.kbackup408 wrote:
i've had the hump all evening pal once I found out ITV box office is showing the WBSS makes me so frustrated because I actually liked the tournament and its format
I think the tournament itself, while a decent idea, is a bit 2nd division with regard to the 168 boys. I don't know that much about the cruisers but apparently their tourn has a more stellar line up. Is that PPV as well ?
Re: 7 PPV's in 5 weeks
If people didn't pay for boxing then boxing would ultimately end.kbackup408 wrote:thisILikeBeer wrote:This.Boxerbeetle wrote:It's ridiculous, but we've allowed it to happen.
If people didn't buy them, nothing would be PPV.
Look, I'm like anyone else; I'd rather it was all free to air, with tickets a couple of quid on the door for shows I want to go to. But it won't be. I accept PPV 'works' as a business model now and it's not going to change.
But, there are still legitimate questions to be asked. Joshua has just done 1.5m+ buys. Of course he's going to be PPV. Hughie? That's simply ridiculous.