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HomicideHenry wrote:Because, since time immemorial... Irish vs English has always sold... From Donnelly vs Cooper in the Curragh of Kildare, to Eubank vs Collins... It's always sold. Put that fight on at Croke Park or Royal Albert Hall and it'll sell out in minutes.

Rubbish.

Covfefe wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:Because, since time immemorial... Irish vs English has always sold... From Donnelly vs Cooper in the Curragh of Kildare, to Eubank vs Collins... It's always sold. Put that fight on at Croke Park or Royal Albert Hall and it'll sell out in minutes.

Rubbish.

In this day and age bro, you gotta admit, anything sells. It doesn't really take much at all to drum up interest in a big way. That's how boring boxing has become anymore. How else do you expect the McGregor fight blew away all records in viewership and distribution?

HomicideHenry wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:Because, since time immemorial... Irish vs English has always sold... From Donnelly vs Cooper in the Curragh of Kildare, to Eubank vs Collins... It's always sold. Put that fight on at Croke Park or Royal Albert Hall and it'll sell out in minutes.

Rubbish.

In this day and age bro, you gotta admit, anything sells. It doesn't really take much at all to drum up interest in a big way. That's how boring boxing has become anymore. How else do you expect the McGregor fight blew away all records in viewership and distribution?

The amount of fights that would have been made to cash in on this alleged English-Irish thing is massive, facts are Irish boxers sell better in the States. That's why most of them go there, Michael Conlan has just turned over, first two fights in the States, do you think he'd be doing that if he could make the same money over here?

Duddy did it, Lee did it, and even Collins tried it. There's an in built following over your way, even Hatton tried to tap into that Irish support over there, it wasn't by accident his first big stateside fight was in Boston.

I'm not trying to argue for no reason, there just is no big sell on Irish-English over here. Unless if they were both top of their game pros. They didn't even try that angle for Frampton-Quigg. It just doesn't matter here anymore.

I think it would sell well and lots of people would buy it. At the end of the day Conor was losing against the best boxer of our era and even he last 10 rounds in there with Floyd. Oscar or Loeffler would jump at this opportunity in a second.

Ossyrules wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:It'd only sell IF McGregor defeats a credible boxer first. He's got that opportunity because Paulie Malignaggi wants it. If he beats Paulie Malignaggi, maybe he could fight someone like Amir Khan who is smaller than Mayweather, etc.. and if he could somehow someway beat him... Then a showdown with GGG, Canelo or Pacquiao could be marketable. But definitely not at present time.

Khan would crucify mcgregor

Mcgregor had zero power. So khans big weakness being chinny is mostly neutralised.

Add into the fact that Khan is naturally more attacking than Mayweather, has quicker hands. Mcgregor wouldn't know what's hit him in that match up

Let's get realistic... 1% any of these hypotheticals actually happen

Khan would beat him easy - but I would bet Khan would love the fight.

He sold his chin Oscar for Canelo, he took that cheque knowing he finishes the fight flat on his back imo - so earning even more money against a novice would be a dream ticket.

I think the UFC are desperate to get McGregor back in the Octagon. Not sure how much he makes there, but i reckon McGregor could probably sell out a stadium in Dublin for Malignaggi, and if he won convincingly, then they could sell out Wembley for Kahn.

Ricky_ wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:It'd only sell IF McGregor defeats a credible boxer first. He's got that opportunity because Paulie Malignaggi wants it. If he beats Paulie Malignaggi, maybe he could fight someone like Amir Khan who is smaller than Mayweather, etc.. and if he could somehow someway beat him... Then a showdown with GGG, Canelo or Pacquiao could be marketable. But definitely not at present time.

Khan would crucify mcgregor

Mcgregor had zero power. So khans big weakness being chinny is mostly neutralised.

Add into the fact that Khan is naturally more attacking than Mayweather, has quicker hands. Mcgregor wouldn't know what's hit him in that match up

Let's get realistic... 1% any of these hypotheticals actually happen

Khan would beat him easy - but I would bet Khan would love the fight.

He sold his chin Oscar for Canelo, he took that cheque knowing he finishes the fight flat on his back imo - so earning even more money against a novice would be a dream ticket.

I think the UFC are desperate to get McGregor back in the Octagon. Not sure how much he makes there, but i reckon McGregor could probably sell out a stadium in Dublin for Malignaggi, and if he won convincingly, then they could sell out Wembley for Kahn.

This scenario sounds more plausible than mine.

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:I mean he would probably get KTFO but could he make more money than in a big UFC fight ?

So you reckon there would be genuine interest from mainstream casual fight fans to see a fighter that was walked down, dominated and then stopped by a forty year old past-his-prime welterweight that hadn’t competed for two years, would be regarded as a genuine threat to physically bigger and far more powerful middleweights like Canelo and GGG?

Yep, there's enough of misinformed MMA fans that probably think McGregor would have a chance because he won more rounds against Floyd than Canelo and that GGG doesn't have as good as defense as Floyd. And McGregor is bigger than any names either could fight.

Ricky_ wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:It'd only sell IF McGregor defeats a credible boxer first. He's got that opportunity because Paulie Malignaggi wants it. If he beats Paulie Malignaggi, maybe he could fight someone like Amir Khan who is smaller than Mayweather, etc.. and if he could somehow someway beat him... Then a showdown with GGG, Canelo or Pacquiao could be marketable. But definitely not at present time.

Khan would crucify mcgregor

Mcgregor had zero power. So khans big weakness being chinny is mostly neutralised.

Add into the fact that Khan is naturally more attacking than Mayweather, has quicker hands. Mcgregor wouldn't know what's hit him in that match up

Let's get realistic... 1% any of these hypotheticals actually happen

Khan would beat him easy - but I would bet Khan would love the fight.

He sold his chin Oscar for Canelo, he took that cheque knowing he finishes the fight flat on his back imo - so earning even more money against a novice would be a dream ticket.

I think the UFC are desperate to get McGregor back in the Octagon. Not sure how much he makes there, but i reckon McGregor could probably sell out a stadium in Dublin for Malignaggi, and if he won convincingly, then they could sell out Wembley for Kahn.

Unless UFC restructures their entire payscale, he'll always make more money in boxing. I don't think the UFC has ever paid out 5 million for a single fighter.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
Khan would crucify mcgregor

Mcgregor had zero power. So khans big weakness being chinny is mostly neutralised.

Add into the fact that Khan is naturally more attacking than Mayweather, has quicker hands. Mcgregor wouldn't know what's hit him in that match up

Let's get realistic... 1% any of these hypotheticals actually happen

Khan would beat him easy - but I would bet Khan would love the fight.

He sold his chin Oscar for Canelo, he took that cheque knowing he finishes the fight flat on his back imo - so earning even more money against a novice would be a dream ticket.

I think the UFC are desperate to get McGregor back in the Octagon. Not sure how much he makes there, but i reckon McGregor could probably sell out a stadium in Dublin for Malignaggi, and if he won convincingly, then they could sell out Wembley for Kahn.

Unless UFC restructures their entire payscale, he'll always make more money in boxing. I don't think the UFC has ever paid out 5 million for a single fighter.

Sure they have. There is nothing in boxing that could touch his earnings going back to MMA. He's going to get a piece of the company.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Khan would beat him easy - but I would bet Khan would love the fight.

He sold his chin Oscar for Canelo, he took that cheque knowing he finishes the fight flat on his back imo - so earning even more money against a novice would be a dream ticket.

I think the UFC are desperate to get McGregor back in the Octagon. Not sure how much he makes there, but i reckon McGregor could probably sell out a stadium in Dublin for Malignaggi, and if he won convincingly, then they could sell out Wembley for Kahn.

Unless UFC restructures their entire payscale, he'll always make more money in boxing. I don't think the UFC has ever paid out 5 million for a single fighter.

Sure they have. There is nothing in boxing that could touch his earnings going back to MMA. He's going to get a piece of the company.

Now he can but prior to the Floyd fight, he was their top star and wasn't even getting Cotto type purses. As far as disclosed purses, Mcgregor probably hasn't gotten 5 million in a single fight. He only got 3 mil for UFC 202.
https://www.mmamania.com/2016/8/22/1258 ... ohnson-mma

Disclosed purses are just the tip of the iceberg. He made 10 million or so in his last couple. No boxing fight would pay him that now.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Disclosed purses are just the tip of the iceberg. He made 10 million or so in his last couple. No boxing fight would pay him that now.

He brings MMA fans to boxing but can't do it as much vice versa. You had MMA fans who have never bought a boxing PPV purchasing the Mayweather Mcgregor. I'm sure not as much boxing fans would purchase a Mcgregor UFC fight. McGregor would be the A side because he also brings in MMA fans which is why he could be the top selling guy in combat sports now that Floyd is gone. Canelo and Pacquiao would get him more than 10 million.

The majority of people that bought Floyd/McGregor aren't boxing or MMA fans.

Lol that PAC would get him 10 million. Manny doesn't make that anymore. That fight would be lucky to do 200k.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The majority of people that bought Floyd/McGregor aren't boxing or MMA fans.

HORN or NATE DIAZ ?

Horn. I think McGregor makes more money in boxing than MMA.

Diaz easily over Horn.

RScarf1 wrote:Horn. I think McGregor makes more money in boxing than MMA.

Not after he loses 2 fights in a row he doesn't, and I'm sure he'd be paid more for an MMA fight than he will for his 2nd Boxing match. If you guys are so eager to see Conor lose again just keep following his MMA career. You won't have to wait too long.

RScarf1 wrote:Horn. I think McGregor makes more money in boxing than MMA.

Not even close.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol that PAC would get him 10 million. Manny doesn't make that anymore. That fight would be lucky to do 200k.

Manny doesn't but Mcgregor now as a boxing draw would. That fight would do at lease a 600K just because people want to see what would happen.

MacGregor is best staying 0-1.

For the money he made fighting FW its not worth it, he needs to go back to learning how to box, he can't beat top 50 fighters as it stands so would need a dozen learning fights (2 years) if he wants to challenge and win against top 5 types.

Lennox wrote:MacGregor is best staying 0-1.

For the money he made fighting FW its not worth it, he needs to go back to learning how to box, he can't beat top 50 fighters as it stands so would need a dozen learning fights (2 years) if he wants to challenge and win against top 5 types.

HE'LL NEVER WIN Against Top 20 types. Let alone Top 5 types.

IKSRTFO wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol that PAC would get him 10 million. Manny doesn't make that anymore. That fight would be lucky to do 200k.

Manny doesn't but Mcgregor now as a boxing draw would. That fight would do at lease a 600K just because people want to see what would happen.

Well, any McGregor UFC fight does over a million. So, like I said, no boxing fight is worth his time now. I certainly couldn't care less what would happen. MMA is the bigger sport, he's better at it, the UFC would have to let him box, just doesn't make sense or cents.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol that PAC would get him 10 million. Manny doesn't make that anymore. That fight would be lucky to do 200k.

Manny doesn't but Mcgregor now as a boxing draw would. That fight would do at lease a 600K just because people want to see what would happen.

Well, any McGregor UFC fight does over a million. So, like I said, no boxing fight is worth his time now. I certainly couldn't care less what would happen. MMA is the bigger sport, he's better at it, the UFC would have to let him box, just doesn't make sense or cents.

UFC fights sell more but their fighters don't get more to scale compared to boxing.