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crusader wrote:How can you not remember Wlodarczyk? He's been on the world scene for a decade, fought and beaten a number of good opponents, and taken part in some excellent fights.

I admited - my fault...
There is something strange about my boxing memory - I remember almost all HW fights almost perfectly, it is not the case considering other weight divisions. And, there is another thing - I live on Balkan, and I have not been always in possibility to watch boxing on tv............

I believe that Wlodarczyk's fight and other CW championship fights were rarely showed on American TV too.

dagilechia wrote:I believe that Wlodarczyk's fight and other CW championship fights were rarely showed on American TV too.

Right now, situation is much, much better. We may watch all (almost all) fights on the top level, and it is very, very cheap (cable tv).

dagilechia wrote:What is your actual CW top 10? it is the best division right now in my opinion.

1.Oleksandr Usyk
2.Murat Gassiev
3.Mairis Briedis
4.Krzysztof Glowacki
5.Denis Lebedev
6.Yunier Dorticos
7.Dmitry Kudryashov
8.Maksim Vlasov
9.Michael Hunter
10.Krzysztof Wlodarczyk

next are Huck, Makabu, Lerena, Gevor, Kalenga, Masternak and maybe Perez (it depends how he shows up vs Briedis), my list does not include Bellew as he is not a CW now and more of a boxing celebrity than a real boxer now

After 3 of 4 quarterfinals i have some changes

1.Oleksandr Usyk
2.Yunier Dorticos
3.Murat Gassiev (it depends on how he beats Włodarczyk, has a good shot to enter #2)
4.Denis Lebedev
5.Mairis Briedis
6.Krzysztof Głowacki (Glowacki did not impressed me vs this Italian guy but he had a left hand injury)
7.Maxim Vlasov
8.Michael Hunter
9.Krzysztof Włodarczyk
10.Mike Perez

kudryshov blows in this quality of field. he'd flatter any of the other fighters and i dont think dorticos should jump several places for beating him. kudryshov also has style and weaknesses that mean hes gonna lose spectacularly whenever he loses. dont think it showed that dorticos anything special.

yeah but Dorticos is big hits hard and is pretty fast, i can see him beating Glowacki, Lebedev or Briedis, i'd possibly favour Gassiev over him but i prefer to see him vs Wlodarczyk first

yes dorticos is good but i dont know if he deserves that much of a jump. kudrashov didnt belong in this tournmanet and wouldve flattered anyone with all his weaknesses.even durodola already knocked him out in 2 just a few fights ago, almost exact same time it took dorticos. dorticos actually had better previous win against kalenga in a tough battle.

the result of his jump is mostly caused by unimpressive show ups by Briedis and Glowacki (he fought injured though)

ok thats fair. briedis did put on a good display of hugging though.

Yesterday's results didn't change anything for me.

Dorticos jumped up to #5 with his KO of Kudryashov though

Briedis should have been disqualified yesterday. I suppose he is still top 5 CW, but, I have no more respect for him.

1-3. Gassiev, Usyk, Dorticos. An order to be defined by the tournament
4. Briedis
5. Lebedev
6. Perez
7-9. Vlasov, Glowacki, Wlod

Glowacki was the best cruiser I saw yesterday.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Glowacki was the best cruiser I saw yesterday.

Because he fought a no-hoper.

boxing_rocks wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Glowacki was the best cruiser I saw yesterday.

Because he fought a no-hoper.

No, because he looked better than the other fighters.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Glowacki was the best cruiser I saw yesterday.

Because he fought a no-hoper.

No, because he looked better than the other fighters.

It is easy to look good against no-hopers. That is what happens with a bunch of boxers: they look good but then face somebody good or tricky and get exposed. I am pretty sure both Briedis and Perez would beat him yesterday.

Glowacki looked not good yesterday in my opinion but he had hand injury http://www.ringpolska.pl/images/stories ... dlonnn.jpg
not injured Glowacki could beat yesterday version of Briedis

boxing_rocks wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote: Because he fought a no-hoper.

No, because he looked better than the other fighters.

It is easy to look good against no-hopers. That is what happens with a bunch of boxers: they look good but then face somebody good or tricky and get exposed. I am pretty sure both Briedis and Perez would beat him yesterday.

I'm glad you're sure. Glowacki is not some unproven prospect.

boxing_rocks wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Glowacki was the best cruiser I saw yesterday.

Because he fought a no-hoper.

1. Usyk
2. Gassiev
3. Briedis
4. Lebedev
5. Glowacki
6. Dorticos
7. Vlasov
8. Perez
9. Tabiti
10. Wlodarczyk

I pushed down Briedis. That was an awful performance against an unproven cruiserweight like Perez. Perez gets pushed up because he held his own against Briedis. Kudryashov always had a puncher's chance against anyone. It was a good win, but I wouldn't put him above Glowacki or Lebedev because of it. Dorticos would need to do more than that to get above either of the former #1 cruiserweights.

Gassiev and Briedis are interchangeable, but I think Gassiev will have his position more secure if he looks great in beating Wlodarczyk.

dagilechia wrote:

dagilechia wrote:What is your actual CW top 10? it is the best division right now in my opinion.

1.Oleksandr Usyk
2.Murat Gassiev
3.Mairis Briedis
4.Krzysztof Glowacki
5.Denis Lebedev
6.Yunier Dorticos
7.Dmitry Kudryashov
8.Maksim Vlasov
9.Michael Hunter
10.Krzysztof Wlodarczyk

next are Huck, Makabu, Lerena, Gevor, Kalenga, Masternak and maybe Perez (it depends how he shows up vs Briedis), my list does not include Bellew as he is not a CW now and more of a boxing celebrity than a real boxer now

After 3 of 4 quarterfinals i have some changes

1.Oleksandr Usyk
2.Yunier Dorticos
3.Murat Gassiev (it depends on how he beats Włodarczyk, has a good shot to enter #2)
4.Denis Lebedev
5.Mairis Briedis
6.Krzysztof Głowacki (Glowacki did not impressed me vs this Italian guy but he had a left hand injury)
7.Maxim Vlasov
8.Michael Hunter
9.Krzysztof Włodarczyk
10.Mike Perez

1.Oleksandr Usyk
2.Murat Gassiev
3.Yunier Dorticos
4.Denis Lebedev
5.Mairis Briedis
6.Krzysztof Glowacki
7.Maxim Vlasov
8.Michael Hunter
9.Mateusz Masternak
10.Mike Perez

Perez beats Glowacki. I would even give Wlod chances against limited Glowacki.

boxing_rocks wrote:Perez beats Glowacki. I would even give Wlod chances against limited Glowacki.

maybe but since Perez proved nothing at CW so far i cant rank him higher