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Khan has always had issues. I've seen every fight he's ever had, and he was fast tracked passed a good couple of domestic fighters who at the time who have given him fits. He is an awesome offensive talent, but he has the worst boxing brain I've ever seen, and then there's the obvious lack of chin. A decent boxing brain could have made up for some of the chin problems but he's never seemed the smartest lad, he is young so could in theory have another decent crack at the titles and there are guys he can beat, but he'll never be a top level fighter.

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Used to compare Khan to Zab, but now I'm going to stop that.

Zab will be remembered for Witter (2000), Tyszu (2001), Corley (2003), Spinks (2004),
Spinks (2005), Baldomir (2006), Mayweather (2006), Cotto (2007), Clottey (2008),
Mattysse (2010), Khan (2011), Garcia (2013)

Zab fought all of these guys in their prime. 2000-2013

Khan has Kotelnik (2009), Malinaggi (2010), Maidana (2010),
Peterson* (2011), Garcia* (2012) *try to remember their status before the Khan fight ...
Alvarez (2016)

People be using words like ballsy and brave for Khan, but it's not true.
The guy was one of boxing's worst duckers and he barely fought any
PRIME HIGH CALIBER DANGEROUS FIGHTERS.

Not a balanced post

You can't put a * by Garcia and Peterson saying remember where they were before the fight, the claim junior witter for Judah

He's never made a balanced post and he's still butthurt how wrong he was about khan/Judah.

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Used to compare Khan to Zab, but now I'm going to stop that.

Zab will be remembered for Witter (2000), Tyszu (2001), Corley (2003), Spinks (2004),
Spinks (2005), Baldomir (2006), Mayweather (2006), Cotto (2007), Clottey (2008),
Mattysse (2010), Khan (2011), Garcia (2013)

Zab fought all of these guys in their prime. 2000-2013

Khan has Kotelnik (2009), Malinaggi (2010), Maidana (2010),
Peterson* (2011), Garcia* (2012) *try to remember their status before the Khan fight ...
Alvarez (2016)

People be using words like ballsy and brave for Khan, but it's not true.
The guy was one of boxing's worst duckers and he barely fought any
PRIME HIGH CALIBER DANGEROUS FIGHTERS.

Not a balanced post

You can't put a * by Garcia and Peterson saying remember where they were before the fight, the claim junior witter for Judah

I think Zab was also young when he fought Witter.
Amir was seasoned, and before the fight people were shitting on Peterson because they thought he lost to Ortiz.
And they were shitting on Garcia because of the tough time he had with Morales.

But you picked out one thing, and the gang of fighter Zab fought IN THEIR PRIMES, didn't "balance" the post?
You are unbalanced dude.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's never made a balanced post and he's still butthurt how wrong he was about khan/Judah.

Yeh ... from a dude who consistently claimed this was a great fighter ...

NEAR OR AT PRIME AT TIME OF FIGHT (and C+ or better)
Kotelnik (C+)
Solid win over solid opponent

Malinaggi (C+)
Solid win over solid opponent

Maidana (B-)
Barely squeaked out a win. Every judge gave Maidana at least 5 rounds.
This was Maidana before Roberto Garcia taught him to jab. Very crude.

Peterson (B)
Lost. Decision.

Garcia (B+)
Lost. KO

Canelo (B)
Lost KO

Dude fought no one.
Guess some real boxing fans get blinded by jazz hands.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's never made a balanced post and he's still butthurt how wrong he was about khan/Judah.

Yeh ... from a dude who consistently claimed this was a great fighter ...

NEAR OR AT PRIME AT TIME OF FIGHT (and C+ or better)
Kotelnik (C+)
Solid win over solid opponent

Malinaggi (C+)
Solid win over solid opponent

Maidana (B-)
Barely squeaked out a win. Every judge gave Maidana at least 5 rounds.
This was Maidana before Roberto Garcia taught him to jab. Very crude.

Peterson (B)
Lost. Decision.

Garcia (B+)
Lost. KO

Canelo (B)
Lost KO

Dude fought no one.
Guess some real boxing fans get blinded by jazz hands.

Nothing like making the case against yourself.

man wrote:can't help it, one of the most exciting
attackers of all time. just great to watch.

Nothing is less interesting than watching Khan fight a soft, cherry-picked opponent like Chris Algieri.. Two guys of low skills with Khan being allowed to clinch and hold relentlessly and barely winning.. More interesting was watching him fight a qualified opponent in his own weight class.. The last time that happened was Danny Garcia well over 5 years ago when Danny was still green and Amir mistakenly thought he could take him.. Danny gave Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th round -- when the KO of Khan happened -- as usual when he fights a championship caliber fighter.

Of course, just before that fight Lamont Peterson beat the crap out of Amir.

Kalan wrote:

man wrote:can't help it, one of the most exciting
attackers of all time. just great to watch.

Nothing is less interesting than watching Khan fight a soft, cherry-picked opponent like Chris Algieri.. Two guys of low skills with Khan being allowed to clinch and hold relentlessly and barely winning.. More interesting was watching him fight a qualified opponent in his own weight class.. The last time that happened was Danny Garcia well over 5 years ago when Danny was still green and Amir mistakenly thought he could take him.. Danny gave Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th round -- when the KO of Khan happened -- as usual when he fights a championship caliber fighter.

Of course, just before that fight Lamont Peterson beat the crap out of Amir.

Khan was jumping around Danny for the first 2 rounds.
However, you see Garcia getting closer and closer.
I wouldn't say it was a boxing lesson,
but it certainly wasn't the lucky Rocky punch Khan fans claim it to be.

Everything else is spot on. Khan has ducked everyone.
The funny thing is, regardless of the anti-Haymon or anti-TR talk,
the only promotion with integrity low enough to put Amir Khan on PPV
was Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions. Shame. Shame. Shame.

Kalan wrote:

man wrote:can't help it, one of the most exciting
attackers of all time. just great to watch.

Nothing is less interesting than watching Khan fight a soft, cherry-picked opponent like Chris Algieri.. Two guys of low skills with Khan being allowed to clinch and hold relentlessly and barely winning.. More interesting was watching him fight a qualified opponent in his own weight class.. The last time that happened was Danny Garcia well over 5 years ago when Danny was still green and Amir mistakenly thought he could take him.. Danny gave Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th round -- when the KO of Khan happened -- as usual when he fights a championship caliber fighter.

Of course, just before that fight Lamont Peterson beat the crap out of Amir.

And nothing like completely rewriting history.

A. Neither Khan or Algieri are "guys of low skills."

B. Alexander and Collazo were "qualified opponent(s) in his own weight class" that he fought in the last five years.

C. Danny Garcia was an undefeated champion at 140 when they fought, not "still green."

D. Danny did not give "Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th." The opposite was true until well into the 3rd round. Khan was shredding Danny until then.

E. Lamont Peterson did not "beat the crap out of Amir." It was a razor close fight that many feel was homer gifted to Peterson.

You can't get much more wrong in one post.

The Canelo fight sums up Khan for me. Such a ridiculous ego to think one could jump up weight classes and beat one of the best at the new weight. Just like another UK fighter in Brook. Both front running, excuse making egomaniacs.

Blodhemn wrote:The Canelo fight sums up Khan for me. Such a ridiculous ego to think one could jump up weight classes and beat one of the best at the new weight. Just like another UK fighter in Brook. Both front running, excuse making egomaniacs.

It was about the money.

He needs to fight broner. Khan is the one top name broner would have a chance against. Two of the dumbest fighters in history. Khan would box circles around him unless..

Tanzio wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:The Canelo fight sums up Khan for me. Such a ridiculous ego to think one could jump up weight classes and beat one of the best at the new weight. Just like another UK fighter in Brook. Both front running, excuse making egomaniacs.

It was about the money.

Only part of the equation. Both have that inflated self belief that goes beyond bravery and steers towards stupidity.

Blodhemn wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:The Canelo fight sums up Khan for me. Such a ridiculous ego to think one could jump up weight classes and beat one of the best at the new weight. Just like another UK fighter in Brook. Both front running, excuse making egomaniacs.

It was about the money.

Only part of the equation. Both have that inflated self belief that goes beyond bravery and steers towards stupidity.

True. But, he had to know that his chances of survival were well under 50%. He got his honorable mention mega fight payday. Pac and FMJ sealed his fate.

I think that GingerHead got a touch of the "inflated self belief" virus you speak of. That and he was somewhat shamed by his fanbase into this fight.

Tanzio wrote:True. But, he had to know that his chances of survival were well under 50%. He got his honorable mention mega fight payday. Pac and FMJ sealed his fate.

I think that GingerHead got a touch of the "inflated self belief" virus you speak of. That and he was somewhat shamed by his fanbase into this fight.

Most apparent was his willingness to face Floyd at 23 yrs old, with factors slanted in Floyd's favor as if it didn't matter. Disillusioned at best. At least now he's fighting in his proper weight class after all these years.

I'll admit as much as I hate Khan, and what a dumb funk he is, I wish I had his money. He has wanted to cash out for a few years now. Afraid to fight Brook and others is OBVIOUS. He is the most funny guy to watch get KO'd than I have ever seen, so he has my vote as tops for that.

Yeah, afraid.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Used to compare Khan to Zab, but now I'm going to stop that.

Zab will be remembered for Witter (2000), Tyszu (2001), Corley (2003), Spinks (2004),
Spinks (2005), Baldomir (2006), Mayweather (2006), Cotto (2007), Clottey (2008),
Mattysse (2010), Khan (2011), Garcia (2013)

Zab fought all of these guys in their prime. 2000-2013

Khan has Kotelnik (2009), Malinaggi (2010), Maidana (2010),
Peterson* (2011), Garcia* (2012) *try to remember their status before the Khan fight ...
Alvarez (2016)

People be using words like ballsy and brave for Khan, but it's not true.
The guy was one of boxing's worst duckers and he barely fought any
PRIME HIGH CALIBER DANGEROUS FIGHTERS.

Not a balanced post

You can't put a * by Garcia and Peterson saying remember where they were before the fight, the claim junior witter for Judah

I think Zab was also young when he fought Witter.
Amir was seasoned, and before the fight people were shitting on Peterson because they thought he lost to Ortiz.
And they were shitting on Garcia because of the tough time he had with Morales.

But you picked out one thing, and the gang of fighter Zab fought IN THEIR PRIMES, didn't "balance" the post?
You are unbalanced dude.

You said Garcia and Peterson needed a star before their fight as they were green, but listed witter as in his prime for zab. No star for him? Despite him not being in his prime. He was a late callup for that fight and pre prime. This has nothing to do with whether you think zab was in his prime. You listed fighters you say he fought in his prime.

Your post is stacked with bias

Tanzio wrote:

Kalan wrote:

man wrote:can't help it, one of the most exciting
attackers of all time. just great to watch.

Nothing is less interesting than watching Khan fight a soft, cherry-picked opponent like Chris Algieri.. Two guys of low skills with Khan being allowed to clinch and hold relentlessly and barely winning.. More interesting was watching him fight a qualified opponent in his own weight class.. The last time that happened was Danny Garcia well over 5 years ago when Danny was still green and Amir mistakenly thought he could take him.. Danny gave Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th round -- when the KO of Khan happened -- as usual when he fights a championship caliber fighter.

Of course, just before that fight Lamont Peterson beat the crap out of Amir.

And nothing like completely rewriting history.

A. Neither Khan or Algieri are "guys of low skills."

B. Alexander and Collazo were "qualified opponent(s) in his own weight class" that he fought in the last five years.

C. Danny Garcia was an undefeated champion at 140 when they fought, not "still green."

D. Danny did not give "Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th." The opposite was true until well into the 3rd round. Khan was shredding Danny until then.

E. Lamont Peterson did not "beat the crap out of Amir." It was a razor close fight that many feel was homer gifted to Peterson.

You can't get much more wrong in one post.

X 2 tanzio taken kalan to boxing history class there. What a load of bollocks from kalan. I'm not even a Khan fan but you can't just make shite up because of that.

Kalan wrote:

man wrote:can't help it, one of the most exciting
attackers of all time. just great to watch.

Nothing is less interesting than watching Khan fight a soft, cherry-picked opponent like Chris Algieri.. Two guys of low skills with Khan being allowed to clinch and hold relentlessly and barely winning.. More interesting was watching him fight a qualified opponent in his own weight class.. The last time that happened was Danny Garcia well over 5 years ago when Danny was still green and Amir mistakenly thought he could take him.. Danny gave Amir a boxing and punching lesson until the 4th round -- when the KO of Khan happened -- as usual when he fights a championship caliber fighter.

Of course, just before that fight Lamont Peterson beat the crap out of Amir.

common. even if you are biased you
can't take it that far and twist every
thing that ever happened against him.

Ossyrules wrote:X 2 tanzio taken kalan to boxing history class there. What a load of bollocks from kalan. I'm not even a Khan fan but you can't just make shite up because of that.

Blodhemn wrote:

Tanzio wrote:True. But, he had to know that his chances of survival were well under 50%. He got his honorable mention mega fight payday. Pac and FMJ sealed his fate.

I think that GingerHead got a touch of the "inflated self belief" virus you speak of. That and he was somewhat shamed by his fanbase into this fight.

Most apparent was his willingness to face Floyd at 23 yrs old, with factors slanted in Floyd's favor as if it didn't matter. Disillusioned at best. At least now he's fighting in his proper weight class after all these years.

there was a moment when it did
seem reasonable that within two
or three fights he could get a shot
at either pac or floyd. nothing wrong
with a 23year old being ambitious.
i prefer that every day of the week
to the likes of mister wilder.

Ossyrules wrote:Your post is stacked with bias

Once again, I consider Zab to be green at that point too.

When Crawford "stepped up" too soon against Prescott, he won.
Remember it was considered an upset (somehow). Great fighters can beat a Zab or Prescott. Witter wasn't great.
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/9 ... ant-rounds

The point of the post was to prove that Khan's resume is WEAK.
I wanted to point out that Peterson and Garcia were actually failed attempts at cherry-picking.
Why don't you speak to the entirety of the post?

That is CORRECT... Khan was a huge favorite to beat the green Danny Garcia -- and a big favorite to beat Lamont Peterson who Tim Bradley dominated.

With his head in the air---a little like Conor McGregor---Khan got pasted around the ring by Danny. Getting hit with loaded shots he showed he can't duck under a punch.. He actually turned his back ass around and RAN away from Garcia.. It was a joke fight and they had to stop it.. Khan flagrantly ducked Kell Brook for years and years.. He ducked Keith Thurman for years and years.. He should have been able to beat Lamont Peterson but he got the worst of it in almost every big exchange.. He kept resorting to illegal pushing to get away from Peterson -- who was beating the shiit out of him.

Right now he's not fighting because he may have to fight a decent opponent if he fights again... People are starting to see through Amir Khan.

man wrote:can't help it, one of the most exciting
attackers of all time. just great to watch.

Old footage is the only way you'll get to see Khan fight these days.

Amir spends more time on social media talking about fighting than actually fighting these days.

I agree though, he was exciting to watch: hugely flawed & thought he punched harder than he actually did, but that's what made him good to watch I suppose.

Khans a good example, speed doesn’t kill, timing does.