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Every bad decision harms the sport because it turns people away from it. GGG/Canelo did some harm.

Floyd/Connor did not harm boxing but the opposite it helped it, because we finally and for good got rig of the boxing's biggest cancer Floyd Mayweather.

Supremo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Neither caused any harm. The sport has always had bad decisions and it always will.

That doesn't mean it doesn't cause it any harm. The sport continually loses support because of the BS around it. If such events never happened then more people would have respect for it and show an interest.

Just because something has always been bad doesn't mean it has to stay that way. If judges were licensed and selected for events by an independent authority who could revoke or suspend their licenses after one too many questionable scores, this might go some way to improving things.

I agree that even before the scores I felt the fight was a bit of a let down. In my naivety I could see no other result but a landslide for GGG by about the halfway point. Actually that's not strictly true. Let's say I thought it extremely likely by that point and became progressively more certain about it with each round that followed.

The only thing that gave me real pleasure was knowing that I'd watched the fight at a reasonable hour in the UK, without knowing the result, and without having paid a penny. That's one result I was happy about!

Supremo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Neither caused any harm. The sport has always had bad decisions and it always will.

That doesn't mean it doesn't cause it any harm. The sport continually loses support because of the BS around it. If such events never happened then more people would have respect for it and show an interest.

The sport loses support because the top fighters rarely fight and when they do the fights aren't very compelling. The people watching are the long suffering fans, nobody else gives a shit. At least in the states.

Supremo wrote:Those saying it didn't cause harm are absolutely deluded. The mayweather McGregor "fight" was huge profile- loads of folk who normally never watch fights would have watched it and thought that was representative of boxing - boring, uncompetitive and undignified.

The GGG Canelo fight would confirm to many that boxing is corrupt and politics are as important as ability. It should have been a show case of the best we have to offer. Instead it left folk feeling frustrated.

How can that not do any harm??

How? The Floyd/McGregor fight was well received. People thought their money was well spent.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Supremo wrote:Those saying it didn't cause harm are absolutely deluded. The mayweather McGregor "fight" was huge profile- loads of folk who normally never watch fights would have watched it and thought that was representative of boxing - boring, uncompetitive and undignified.

The GGG Canelo fight would confirm to many that boxing is corrupt and politics are as important as ability. It should have been a show case of the best we have to offer. Instead it left folk feeling frustrated.

How can that not do any harm??

How? The Floyd/McGregor fight was well received. People thought their money was well spent.

Did they?????? I would doubt that.

Supremo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Supremo wrote:Those saying it didn't cause harm are absolutely deluded. The mayweather McGregor "fight" was huge profile- loads of folk who normally never watch fights would have watched it and thought that was representative of boxing - boring, uncompetitive and undignified.

The GGG Canelo fight would confirm to many that boxing is corrupt and politics are as important as ability. It should have been a show case of the best we have to offer. Instead it left folk feeling frustrated.

How can that not do any harm??

How? The Floyd/McGregor fight was well received. People thought their money was well spent.

Did they?????? I would doubt that.

Yeah, they did.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Supremo wrote:Those saying it didn't cause harm are absolutely deluded. The mayweather McGregor "fight" was huge profile- loads of folk who normally never watch fights would have watched it and thought that was representative of boxing - boring, uncompetitive and undignified.

The GGG Canelo fight would confirm to many that boxing is corrupt and politics are as important as ability. It should have been a show case of the best we have to offer. Instead it left folk feeling frustrated.

How can that not do any harm??

How? The Floyd/McGregor fight was well received. People thought their money was well spent.

In the same way that it's funny watching a jackass movie

Neither really harmed the sport. Some can argue that the Mayweather fight was a farce, which I would say maybe, but for me it was more of a spectacle rather than real boxing math. It created buzz and got people talking boxing. This is a good thing, however, it created so much hype and sizzle it make the Canelo-GGG match more of an afterthought, at least in the general public's view. As a long time boxing fan I understand that the Canelo-GGG bout was much more significant and relevant, but there was something missing for me in the build up. Had they waited half a year or fought sooner the buzz would have been better.

As for Canelo-GGG, the judging was poor but I saw it coming. As the fight progressed you could count the dollars already being pondered at the potential for a re-match. Even if GGG had won, a re-match would have and should have been in the works. It was a great fight and possibly if the 118-110 score was more like 114, it would have been more digestible. So in the end the scoring marred the sport if anything did at all. One judges incompetence added to the aura of corruption. However, it will spur the fighters to go for a KO or TKO in order to take it out of the judges hands next time. There are still many questions, such as Canelo's strategy of trying the tire GGG out and instead using his power early on to go for broke? GGG, instead of using pressure, giving Canelo the chance to get reckless and using a counter attack approach? Either way the rematch is something I really want to watch now, proving that the first result may be better for boxing than we realize.

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Supremo wrote:Those saying it didn't cause harm are absolutely deluded. The mayweather McGregor "fight" was huge profile- loads of folk who normally never watch fights would have watched it and thought that was representative of boxing - boring, uncompetitive and undignified.

The GGG Canelo fight would confirm to many that boxing is corrupt and politics are as important as ability. It should have been a show case of the best we have to offer. Instead it left folk feeling frustrated.

How can that not do any harm??

How? The Floyd/McGregor fight was well received. People thought their money was well spent.

In the same way that it's funny watching a jackass movie

Casuals thought it was a fight and they liked it.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: How? The Floyd/McGregor fight was well received. People thought their money was well spent.

In the same way that it's funny watching a jackass movie

Casuals thought it was a fight and they liked it.

What evidence do you have to support that statement?

Supremo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
In the same way that it's funny watching a jackass movie

Casuals thought it was a fight and they liked it.

What evidence do you have to support that statement?

The people that came to my house, FB feed, all of the hosts on ESPN like Mike and Mike, etc... I have only seen negative opinions on this boxing board.

You have to understand the casual dynamic. It's a fight party, they enjoyed most of Floyd's fights except for Manny.

CANELO VS GGG

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You have to understand the casual dynamic. It's a fight party, they enjoyed most of Floyd's fights except for Manny.

Ironically, I have the opposite experience. All of my casual invitees to my fight parties thought most of Floyd's fights were boring to watch and would rather watch UFC.

IKSRTFO wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You have to understand the casual dynamic. It's a fight party, they enjoyed most of Floyd's fights except for Manny.

Ironically, I have the opposite experience. All of my casual invitees to my fight parties thought most of Floyd's fights were boring to watch and would rather watch UFC.

Obviously your friends were in the minority. Except for preferring the UFC. That's a more popular sport. Hell, I prefer it after boxing being my favourite sport for decades.