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Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 02:48
by Like a Boss
RScarf1 wrote:Here is my prediction: Fury by robbery :lol:
That and Parker by KO are probably the two most likely outcomes.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 03:03
by candyslim
It's a tough one to predict. We know a lot more about Parker. Hughie's best win is Dimitrenko where he looked pretty impressive, less so against the awkward Fred Kassi who Hughie beat on an injury IIRC.

He hasn't fought in quite in a while (early last year?) unless you count the recent exhibition with the limited but very spirited Kamil Sokolowski who I heard gave Hughie few problems. Fury is a good boxer and moves well but he has shown no indication of having much punching power and may struggle to keep Parker at distance. He certainly hasn't faced anyone of Parker's quality.

Hopefully it'll be a good fight. The poll certainly suggests it should be competitive. I've gone for Parker by stoppage but it's not a selection I made with any confidence, which I consider to be a good thing in terms of keeping it interesting.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 04:34
by RScarf1
I read that Parker's team did not like the referee, so the BBBC reluctantly changed the referee. Now the former referee of the fight has been chosen by the BBBC to be one of the judges! They seem really intent on getting this decision for Fury.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 08:18
by Tony1244
KiwiRider wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:A) Parker by stoppage
B) Parker by decision
C) H. Fury by stoppage
D) H. Fury by decision
Thank you Tony for doing another poll.
It is relevant because the sway of votes is now in Hughie's favor, whereas the initial poll for the fight when it was announced for Auckland swung well in Parker's favour.
I'm not sure why this has happened.
Perhaps it is the fact of now being in the UK?
Hughie hasn't done anything to prove his worth since then. Unless you count the 6 round beat down and the publicity photos of him carrying a sheep, beating up carcasses at the butchers, and 'splitting' wood :KO:


I wasn't trying to uncover or sway anything. I rarely go into the British & Irish section and didn't notice the old poll until I started the new one. I usually hang out in current scene, boxing history, or off topic. Anyhow, GGG-Canelo had about 20 threads as did May.-McG., so a HW fight should get at least 2.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 10:19
by tigermoth87
Fury 8 - 4

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 10:52
by sensei13
i have bet for Parker. Before game i can go Fury by decision for guarantee.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 14:51
by KiwiRider
Tony1244 wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:A) Parker by stoppage
B) Parker by decision
C) H. Fury by stoppage
D) H. Fury by decision
Thank you Tony for doing another poll.
It is relevant because the sway of votes is now in Hughie's favor, whereas the initial poll for the fight when it was announced for Auckland swung well in Parker's favour.
I'm not sure why this has happened.
Perhaps it is the fact of now being in the UK?
Hughie hasn't done anything to prove his worth since then. Unless you count the 6 round beat down and the publicity photos of him carrying a sheep, beating up carcasses at the butchers, and 'splitting' wood :KO:


I wasn't trying to uncover or sway anything. I rarely go into the British & Irish section and didn't notice the old poll until I started the new one. I usually hang out in current scene, boxing history, or off topic. Anyhow, GGG-Canelo had about 20 threads as did May.-McG., so a HW fight should get at least 2.
Whoops.
I ment it. I wanted another poll.
The thank you was genuine.
I was going to do it myself if you hadn't.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 05:14
by Mighty Atom
People have got this completely the wrong way round.
The BBBOC and the Fury family are sworn enemies.
Parker will get all the breaks in this one. Better than being home in New Zealand.
Parker by undeserved decision

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 05:39
by RScarf1
Mighty Atom wrote:People have got this completely the wrong way round.
The BBBOC and the Fury family are sworn enemies.
Parker will get all the breaks in this one. Better than being home in New Zealand.
Parker by undeserved decision
Maybe so, but they like money more than their relationship with the Fury family. The referee that the Parker team did not want has been switched to be one of the judges. It seems to me like the BBBoC wants Fury to win. Think of the money that could be made by the BBBoC if Fury wins. Fury will have his world title fights in England and maybe a unification fight with Joshua.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 12:00
by Tony1244
KiwiRider wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
KiwiRider wrote: Thank you Tony for doing another poll.
It is relevant because the sway of votes is now in Hughie's favor, whereas the initial poll for the fight when it was announced for Auckland swung well in Parker's favour.
I'm not sure why this has happened.
Perhaps it is the fact of now being in the UK?
Hughie hasn't done anything to prove his worth since then. Unless you count the 6 round beat down and the publicity photos of him carrying a sheep, beating up carcasses at the butchers, and 'splitting' wood :KO:


I wasn't trying to uncover or sway anything. I rarely go into the British & Irish section and didn't notice the old poll until I started the new one. I usually hang out in current scene, boxing history, or off topic. Anyhow, GGG-Canelo had about 20 threads as did May.-McG., so a HW fight should get at least 2.
Whoops.
I ment it. I wanted another poll.
The thank you was genuine.
I was going to do it myself if you hadn't.

Wasn't sure if it was sarcastic. Either way is fine. Thanks for explaining though. :TU:

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 12:09
by ValMar
tigermoth87 wrote:Fury 8 - 4
Fury, ref and judges against Parker 115-113, it might happen tomorrow.
Parker personally obtained gift-decision against Ruiz.
Karma ? We will see tomorrow.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 12:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
Parker beat Ruiz cleanly. I can't offer a prediction here as I've never seen Hughie fight. That certainly won't change tomorrow.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:02
by ValMar
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Parker beat Ruiz cleanly. I can't offer a prediction here as I've never seen Hughie fight. That certainly won't change tomorrow.
No, he did not, it was a close match, edge to Ruiz.
It would have been the win for Ruiz on the neutral venue (in the USA 118-110)..........

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:03
by Tony1244
Hughie is a stick and dance guy. He never fought a contender.

Larry Merchant would say something like, "We'll see soon whether he's more of a Cassius Clay or more of a Larry Donald."

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:07
by SaadOffTheDeck
ValMar wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Parker beat Ruiz cleanly. I can't offer a prediction here as I've never seen Hughie fight. That certainly won't change tomorrow.
No, he did not, it was a close match, edge to Ruiz.
It would have been the win for Ruiz on the neutral venue (in the USA 118-110)..........
:lol:

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:35
by RScarf1
I think Parker deserved to beat Ruiz by a close margin, but this was because of his fitness compared to Ruiz. Parker won by close judges' scores against Takam and Ruiz. I watched Fury fight on YouTube. He's borderline world-class based on who he has won against, namely Andriy Rudenko, but that was two years ago. Fury's most recent fight was against Fred Kassi and it was stopped due to an accidental head clash that Fury was cut from, so they went to the judges' scores. I think Parker knows that he has to knock Fury out in order to win in England. I saw the weigh-in. Fury looks scrawny compared to Parker. Fury has a little bit of a belly protruding and an abundance of acne on his arms. I don't think this goes the distance.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 20:45
by KiwiRider
RScarf1 wrote:I think Parker deserved to beat Ruiz by a close margin, but this was because of his fitness compared to Ruiz. Parker won by close judges' scores against Takam and Ruiz. I watched Fury fight on YouTube. He's borderline world-class based on who he has won against, namely Andriy Rudenko, but that was two years ago. Fury's most recent fight was against Fred Kassi and it was stopped due to an accidental head clash that Fury was cut from, so they went to the judges' scores. I think Parker knows that he has to knock Fury out in order to win in England. I saw the weigh-in. Fury looks scrawny compared to Parker. Fury has a little bit of a belly protruding and an abundance of acne on his arms. I don't think this goes the distance.
Good summation.
I think you touched upon the relevant things. And Fury did look poor at the weigh in. Mind you, Tyson was slimmed down at the Wlad weigh in too. Peter is a good trainer and I suspect he might have a plan.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 02:38
by lazboy
KiwiRider wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:I think Parker deserved to beat Ruiz by a close margin, but this was because of his fitness compared to Ruiz. Parker won by close judges' scores against Takam and Ruiz. I watched Fury fight on YouTube. He's borderline world-class based on who he has won against, namely Andriy Rudenko, but that was two years ago. Fury's most recent fight was against Fred Kassi and it was stopped due to an accidental head clash that Fury was cut from, so they went to the judges' scores. I think Parker knows that he has to knock Fury out in order to win in England. I saw the weigh-in. Fury looks scrawny compared to Parker. Fury has a little bit of a belly protruding and an abundance of acne on his arms. I don't think this goes the distance.
Good summation.
I think you touched upon the relevant things. And Fury did look poor at the weigh in. Mind you, Tyson was slimmed down at the Wlad weigh in too. Peter is a good trainer and I suspect he might have a plan.
How elusive is Fury though and can he take a punch? I haven’t seen a fight of his only highlights. Looks awkward, has good movement it seems and comitts to the body...the last one a question mark though because I’ve only seen highlights. I can’t watch a full fight now as I’m on a mobile and can’t be fked. Is that a nightmare for Parker, movement, then body shots? I’ve picked Fury for a decision but after reading most of the comments I’m thinking about changing it.....so you think Parker will be able to explode on him and land and keep that up? Convince me...please.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 02:53
by Grailer
Look Huggie is barely a heavyweight.

The guy doesn't look athletic at all and has skinny arms .

He probably good amateur because his pitter patter punches
Racked up some points.

Parker is a beast , he's super fast , proven , one punch knockout power against most heavyweights ( furys chin needs to be above average ) can't see furys chin being good enough and his long body will break when Parker lands on it.

If the goes past 3 -4 round I will be surprised

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 03:01
by KiwiRider
lazboy wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:
RScarf1 wrote:I think Parker deserved to beat Ruiz by a close margin, but this was because of his fitness compared to Ruiz. Parker won by close judges' scores against Takam and Ruiz. I watched Fury fight on YouTube. He's borderline world-class based on who he has won against, namely Andriy Rudenko, but that was two years ago. Fury's most recent fight was against Fred Kassi and it was stopped due to an accidental head clash that Fury was cut from, so they went to the judges' scores. I think Parker knows that he has to knock Fury out in order to win in England. I saw the weigh-in. Fury looks scrawny compared to Parker. Fury has a little bit of a belly protruding and an abundance of acne on his arms. I don't think this goes the distance.
Good summation.
I think you touched upon the relevant things. And Fury did look poor at the weigh in. Mind you, Tyson was slimmed down at the Wlad weigh in too. Peter is a good trainer and I suspect he might have a plan.
How elusive is Fury though and can he take a punch? I haven’t seen a fight of his only highlights. Looks awkward, has good movement it seems and comitts to the body...the last one a question mark though because I’ve only seen highlights. I can’t watch a full fight now as I’m on a mobile and can’t be fked. Is that a nightmare for Parker, movement, then body shots? I’ve picked Fury for a decision but after reading most of the comments I’m thinking about changing it.....so you think Parker will be able to explode on him and land and keep that up? Convince me...please.
Parker seems to be adept at fighting on the back foot if need be. He did this against Ruiez's come forward pressure with good success. I don't know what Huggies chin us like, no one knows? I'm expecting Parker to win, probably by KO, buy I would not be surprised if it went the distance depending on chins, and Parker has a fairly decent one

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 03:13
by lazboy
Thank you. Parker seems to have a decent jab too. Been some real tough fights to call this year. Hopefully this is as competitive as the odds suggest.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 04:05
by Spiker
is this fight being shown in America?

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 04:06
by SaadOffTheDeck
Spiker wrote:is this fight being shown in America?
Ppv, 35 bucks.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 04:29
by RScarf1
Fury may not be better than Alexander Dimitrenko and look what Parker did to him. I first thought maybe it can go the distance, but after seeing Fury at the weigh-in and watching his fights on YouTube, I have to agree with Grailer. I see Parker winning by stoppage within the first four rounds.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 04:51
by paddy chavez
I don't think we have much clue on how good Hughie is really he hasn't thought anyone of note and if he wasn't Tyson's cousin he wouldn't be getting this fight , I always thought Hughie looked physically weak and he could be bullied by a strong fighter which is exactly what Parker is but on the other hand Parker looks like he can be outboxed at distance....
Parker stoppage win